FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference

[baseman201]

It says on d3football.com that MSJ won 20-0

Here are the scores from today:

1:00 PM  Maranatha Baptist  7  Blackburn  20  Final   
2:00 PM  Aurora  30  MacMurray  18  Final   
2:00 PM  Concordia (Ill.)  8  Eureka  28  Final   
2:00 PM  Mount St. Joseph  20  Lakeland  0  Final   
2:00 PM  Concordia (Wis.)   Valparaiso       
2:00 PM  Kalamazoo  17  Rockford  14  Final

No score for CUW, anyone know anything?  Alot of close games today, looks like MAC kept it close against AU.  And CUC got it handed to them by Eureka, it's just sad to see.

[WLCALUM83]

2 other finals:

Mayville State 9, WLC 7
Valpo over CUW  34-10

[WLCALUM83]

Does anyone know why the Lakeland College website says the MSJ game ended in a tie 0-0?  Even thier record changed to 0-1-1.  I am just an MSJ alum looking for an answer.

Once any Lakeland College athletic contest (regardless of sport) gets underway, that site shows the "result" as a tie until a report comes in to them as to what the actual final is.

[Pat Coleman]

Should've gone with Presto.

[ftballfan09]

wow thought this would be a turn around year in cuc but who knows now....what does next week look like? i support this conference but how could you take cuw over valpo....you had to know that was coming. anyway we are a week closer to conference play....good luck to all.....

[cudub]

So i havent been on the board for over a year now.  What am I missing, when did Euereka become not the worst team in the country?  Not only did they beat CUC but, it looks as if people actually predicted that too.  I am confused as to how this happened.  Insights anyone?

[old 40]

Picks for week 3;

Could be a long weekend for the NAC teams.

IWU at AU- IWU wins easy after an early struggle by AU. To much CCIW. 31-14
Rockford at Alma- Alma fires up the Scott Gun and wins big, 42-7
Carthage at Lakeland- To much CCIW. The Redmen continue to air it out. Lakeland does score. 56-14.
Olivet at CUC- Olivet is looking for their first win. To much for the Cougars. 48-7
Wheaton at CUW- Wheaton is coming off a big win. Close for a while. To much CCIW. 42-7
M.Baptist at Macalaster- Minnesota will not be kind to the NAC team. 48-0
St. Scholastca at WLC- The saints play their first game ever. WLC wins 28-13.
NCC at Benedictine- NCC is loaded.38-0. To much CCIW.

This weeks games look like a match between the CCIW and the NAC. The CCIW is loaded with great athletes. Long day for the NAC. IMO, I am glad they are playing these good teams. Gives the NAC an idea of where their programs have to be to win a playoff game.

The NAC season starts in two weeks. Good luck to everyone.

[CU Alum]

Old 40 -- I agree will all those picks -- rough weekend for the NAC

but I also agree that you need to play the tough teams --  IMO there seems to be a shift in D3 quality teams -- perhaps these tough times will bode well for the years to come.  Did you read the article from the LaCross paper that calls out the private schools in the upper midwest - particularly wisconsin -- calls them out to play the WIAC -- it is in the "What were reading" links

open to comments and discussions about "playing up"?

looking forward to discussion

[hickory_cornhusker]

I think more private schools from the area, especially Wisconsin should play the WIAC during the year but the challenge to the Midwest Conference is a little missed place. I wonder if this guy realizes that they only have one non-conference game and Carroll always schedules a CCIW school since they used to be in that conference so that only leaves four possible games form WI schools in the conference. The problem is the WIAC is too good for their own good. You want to play tougher competition to make yourself better but sending Beloit to play a team Stevens Point (middle of the pack WIAC team) isn't going to help anyone. Except for a St. Norbert or Monmouth or Ripon (who has played Oshkosh the past few years) most teams can't compete with the WIAC schools especially the upper level teams like Whitewater and Eau Claire. I'd say Concordia (WI) and Carthage and maybe Lakeland are the only teams in Wisconsin that are in any position to play a WIAC school after week 1. WLC and MBBC aren't going to have a chance.

[CU Alum]

When I played for CU then CC (NAIA II) we as players always asked rather vociferiously to be able to play the WIAC (then WSUC)

we couldnt even get 10 games back them --

I agree many of those listed are not able - it would serve no purpose
as an alum I want to see CUW play 1 WIAC school a year

I am pleased with the Non Conf sked for CU this year and the past few
we played Central and North Central and Platteville and of course this year is very tough Bethel, Valpo and Wheaton this week.

In regard to the WIAC going all over God's green earth to play - the OAC is relatively close -- those would be some good games -- MUC, Ohio Northern

[WLCALUM83]

hickory cornhusker, I agree with your post.

CU alum, you also have a valid point. A couple of years back UW-Stevens Point had a rotating series with Hardin-Simmons (Abilene, TX), ditto for UW-Whitewater (Mary Hardin-Baylor, TX).  From a travel standpoint, for one or two non-conference games a year--it'd be worth at least a look.

[WLCALUM83]

Picks for week 3;

Could be a long weekend for the NAC teams.

IWU at AU- IWU wins easy after an early struggle by AU. To much CCIW. 31-14
Rockford at Alma- Alma fires up the Scott Gun and wins big, 42-7
Carthage at Lakeland- To much CCIW. The Redmen continue to air it out. Lakeland does score. 56-14.
Olivet at CUC- Olivet is looking for their first win. To much for the Cougars. 48-7
Wheaton at CUW- Wheaton is coming off a big win. Close for a while. To much CCIW. 42-7
M.Baptist at Macalaster- Minnesota will not be kind to the NAC team. 48-0
St. Scholastca at WLC- The saints play their first game ever. WLC wins 28-13.
NCC at Benedictine- NCC is loaded.38-0. To much CCIW.

This weeks games look like a match between the CCIW and the NAC. The CCIW is loaded with great athletes. Long day for the NAC. IMO, I am glad they are playing these good teams. Gives the NAC an idea of where their programs have to be to win a playoff game.

The NAC season starts in two weeks. Good luck to everyone.

WLCALUM83's picks:

Aurora
Alma
Carthage
Olivet
Wheaton
Macalester
WLC  (I don't think the Warriors will take St. Scholastica too lightly on Homecoming. WLC needs to cut down on turnovers. If they do that, they'll be OK.)
North Central

[old 40]

The WIAC is unique in D3. They are state schools with great facilities and a very low cost compared to the private school education. These two factors are a big advantages for them.

Last year Lakeland played two WIAC schools and were not competitive. These schools hve more quality depth than Lakeland had. IMO, it is impossible for a Lakeland to compete for the number of high eschelon athletes that the 9 state schools bring in. They might get a few but not the numbers needed to compete against the WIAC. In this scenario our tax dollars work against the private schools.

IMO, I think scheduling the top schools in D3 is good. Lakeland and CUW have been doing this and it has prepped them for their conference. I applaud benedictine and Rockford for playing some tough non-conference teams.

As far as the loon from LaCrosse, he is entitled to his opinion.  I have a different one. Maybe he should call out the WIAC to step up and be a D2 league like some of the Michigan and Minnesota schools. I think that aligns them to apples to apples. This would allow them to compete against schools with the same advantages and disadvantages, IMO.

Playing the CCIW and the IIAC is a big challenge for the NAC teams. I think long term it makes their teams and program better. Many of these schools have great facilities also but there tuition is a bit more than $9,000/year.

Good Luck to everyone's team this week.

[Pat Coleman]

The WIAC is unique in D3. They are state schools with great facilities and a very low cost compared to the private school education.

Yet they are not unique. The NJAC fits that mold as well, Christopher Newport, Salisbury. And there are other state schools in Division III, though not many have great facilities.

[hickory_cornhusker]

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As far as the loon from LaCrosse, he is entitled to his opinion.  I have a different one. Maybe he should call out the WIAC to step up and be a D2 league like some of the Michigan and Minnesota schools. I think that aligns them to apples to apples. This would allow them to compete against schools with the same advantages and disadvantages, IMO.

I know lots of people who have been calling for the WIAC to move up to D2 for quite a while now. The biggest obstacle is the state govenrment in Wisconsin. They would have to okay the move to D2 and I don't see that happening. With D2 comes more expenses and the schools have a tough enough balancing act as it is with trying to keep tuition somewhat affordable and yet fund what they are already doing. And I doubt the people of Wisconsin would be willing to foot the bill in additional taxes. Madison, Milwaukee, and Green Bay are the only schools allowed to be D1 in the UW system and Parkside is the only one that is allowed to be D2. And I doubt the WIAC schools would be willing to take on Division 2 without offering some scholarships.