FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference

[02 Warhawk]

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/yb/136705861

If only there was a way the WIAC can avoid this...like scheduling some non-conference schools near by to save costs.......              

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[tm343407]

The WIAC has put themselves in that position. How many other state schools play in D-III?

[02 Warhawk]

The WIAC has put themselves in that position. How many other state schools play in D-III?

there's a total of 4 conferences that have DIII football programs in WI and northern IL

[Pat Coleman]

The WIAC has put themselves in that position. How many other state schools play in D-III?

25% of Division III is state schools, tm343407.

[tm343407]

Pat,

I obviously didn't know that. Are they as large as the WIAC schools?

[Mr. Ypsi]

Pat,

I obviously didn't know that. Are they as large as the WIAC schools?

Some bigger, probably most smaller.  But none of the WIAC schools are anywhere near as large as NYU (private, d3).

But unless you think football teams are assembled by open tryouts of the student body (ala those [diminishly few] high schools who don't recruit), how is enrollment relevant to football success?

[tm343407]

Enrollment is very relevant as it typically improves the budget with which to recruit, hire more full-time coaches, better facilities, better equipment, etc.

With regards to the WIAC specifically: aside for UW-Madison, there are not D-1, 1AA, 2, or NAIA schools in Wisconsin. States schools are typically cheaper so that is a large part in the WIAC's success.

[Pat Coleman]

Subscribers to Kickoff learned who had the Top 10 operating budgets from the 2007 season. None was a state school.

[tm343407]

Well that shut me up.   

I'm not quite sure who the other states schools are other that the SUNY. I guess the fact that there is no place other than UW-Madison for Wisconsin kids to go to stay in state really has that much of an impact. I would have attributed a lot of it to larger budgets.

[WLCALUM83]

Seeing as NAthCon's got an early game on the docket this weekend, I'll start off by giving my guesses:

10/22:  Concordia over WLC  (Falcons have had WLC's number)

10/24:  Aurora over Rockford
             Concordia-Chicago big over Maranatha
             Benedictine over Lakeland in a tight one. (IL Eagles are at home.)

[dizzle52]

Picks for the week:

CUW over WLC:  close for a little bit put CUW pulls away

AU rolls RC:  combination of Rockford being really bad and the Spartans needing to get back on track

CUC over MBBC:  still not 100% sold on CUC and this game shouldn't help too much but Maranatha is terrible

LC over BU:  close game but the muskies win it late

[old 40]

Early Game this week with a Thursday Game "The Lutheran Bowl" and I think the game of the week. I see its on TV. Good for the NAC to get some exposure. I think I will go up and check the game out.


CUW at WLC- CUW is getting stronger but I beleive WLC has weapons that will cause CUW trouble. WLC in a close game 19-17. Field Goals will be a factor.

MBBC at CUC- Ouch! CUC wins Big 62-6

LC at BU- BU stays in the hunt, LC is apparently poor on pass defense (CUC 411 yds) and the offense is choked down with turnovers. BU 24-6

RC at AU- AU gets back to winning. They still have a chance if they win out. and get some help and some of the teams get 2 losses.. AU 42-12 .

I think BU,CUC and WLC have their destiny in their hands by winning out. IMHO I think they can. Looks like RC, MBBC, LC and AU are out of it at this time. This week will tell us alot about the last 3 weeks. Good Luck to everyone's team this week.

[old 40]

Tm343407
02Warhawk

Read your post about the WIAC scheduling problems. IIMHO the NAC schools have their hands full by scheduling teams in the CCIW and Midwest Conference. The NAC only has a few wins in the last 5 years against CCIW teams. They play the top, middle and bottom of the CCIW teams and still have little success. Travel is close for the NAC teams so its a good fit. I hope the NAC continues to schedule CCIW (Great competition) and gets everyone ready for the NAC. The WIAC is to big a chunk to bite off. They have some major advantages. Facilities (tax $ at work) and low tuitition are two biggies. These are huge hurdles  for NAC schools to overcome.

The WIAC is in a tough predictament. Maybe they look to play D-2 State schools in Minnesota  or NAIA schools in IL. (St. Xavier, St. Francis, Trinty Int. or Olivet Nazerine). These schools are close to some of the WIAC schools. Maybe do a conference round robin each year with each conferences  #1's play, #2's play and so forth down to the last place teams. Just a thought. Maybe its the Badger state versus the Golpher state challenge.

I also see some of the NAC schools scheduling some Midwest Conference schools, certainly no easy push overs there for the NAC.

One Mans opinion!

[lem4094]

I just have to say that I am proud of my AlmaMater.  It has been forever since the CU Cougars have been doing this well.  They are, by no means, out of the woods yet (Ben., CUW, AU left).

Great job, Coach Pries, Janowsky, staff and players!!  See you at the Ben. U. game.

Keep fighting!!  Good Luck!!

[baseman201]

Lem-

Yeah, I am with you man, it takes awhile to build a good team, and CUC has been trying to build a good team for a LOOOOOONG time.  The turnaround started in 2007 (in my opinion) when Pries started some heavy recruiting, especially from Florida.  Won 3 games that year, 3 again in 2008, now 5 already in 2009.

Hopefully this season will get some even better recruits wanting to come in next year.