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IBFC_Alum

Genius,
I am not backing off my dominance statement, just stating that no matter what stats you throw up here to try and prove your point, your team does not have more IBFC crowns than Mac. So your team must be middle of the road as well.  Regardless if those titles occured before your nutz dropped or not.
I only bring up the past so that you understand the history of the conference.  Thats all.  To say Mac will only beat CURF and Eureka shows that you must not have made your teams travel list at all last year to watch any of these schools in the conference play. Now I know where your anger is coming from. I am sure you had a good JV team though? Maybe this year your name will make that list.  Lets just let the season play it self out.  Obviously this is not Division I where we do not have a good Idea of who is coming back to who's team and who got recruited until August rolls around. Just make sure you stay posting when you have to eat your words. And I'll make sure that I'll do the same.
"Division III Football, Where They Pay to Play"

Gomer Pyle

 For Mac to have a good season they must come up with an "O" line that can get the job done, not like the last couple of years when their  "O" line was atrocious. Just look at their (YPP) for the last couple of seasons and that stat really stands out.
  Oops, looks like you can`t do that cause Mac`s football site is/has been under "re-design" for almost a year.  I wonder how you can start a job, not finish in a timely manner and still get paid?
  Mac will have a senior QB and the best RB in the conference ( to bad Lakeland) this season but if they don`t get any help up front, Mac will be no better than a middle of the road team, IMO.
  As i mentioned Lakeland above i feel compelled to
   remind them they........lost to Augie!
   Put away the would-a, could-a, should-a theories
   or at the very least seek professional help for your denial. 
   It`s a new season, turn the page, move on.
    Enough already.   
 
 

Genius

IBFC_Alum

You told me to look at the history and i did. You said mac and Au was dominant. i disagree. Having 1 more title than 2 other teams in the conferene is not dominance in any sport, on any continent. 2 titles and then your next highest finish is 4th in the conference over a 7 year span is not dominance, it isn't even consistency. if you want us to understand history make sure you can interpret that history without such an obvious blinding bias.

Secondly, don't try to deflect the attention by bringing up my playing career. That is not the subject. the subject began with predictions. When writing you want to stay focused on the subject at hand. you should have learned that in college writing at mac.

By the way...who did Mac beat in the conference last year (Eureka and CURF). I apologize if you were offended by my opinion that they will repeat that same record this year. CUW is my favorite, Lakeland (lost playmakers on O and D), AU (lost dbs/dl but good qb) and GC (bunch of returners). SO i think they will fight for second. I think Bene has a great coach and they are on the rise while mac's defensive coaching is suspect. So i pick Bene to beat mac again. mac should pound eureka and curf.

IBFC_ALum, these are my observations of each program. it has nothing to do with anger just an opinion.

Gome Pyle, i believe both backs for Cuw are better than Ereg. he is good but i 'd rather face him then the other 2.

IBFC_Alum

So you don't deny the fact that you never made your teams travel list.!!!!! J/K

If you say that I am bias then you definetly are too. Especially if you think that both backs from CUW are better than Ereg. 

To say my predictions about Mac are bias is incorrect because I did not even pick them to win the conference.  I picked them to finnish at the top.  I have information about some recruits that are heading up to Mac. I know from that information that they will make Mac a much better team. Trust me!!!  So that is what I base my facts on. 

Here's a hint:  These recruits were all-state in a state that produces nothing but Division I prospects. Now that is good Information to base my predictions on.
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footballisfun

Quote from: Genius on May 09, 2006, 11:15:55 AM
IBFC_Alum

You told me to look at the history and i did. You said mac and Au was dominant. i disagree. Having 1 more title than 2 other teams in the conferene is not dominance in any sport, on any continent. 2 titles and then your next highest finish is 4th in the conference over a 7 year span is not dominance, it isn't even consistency. if you want us to understand history make sure you can interpret that history without such an obvious blinding bias.

Secondly, don't try to deflect the attention by bringing up my playing career. That is not the subject. the subject began with predictions. When writing you want to stay focused on the subject at hand. you should have learned that in college writing at mac.

By the way...who did Mac beat in the conference last year (Eureka and CURF). I apologize if you were offended by my opinion that they will repeat that same record this year. CUW is my favorite, Lakeland (lost playmakers on O and D), AU (lost dbs/dl but good qb) and GC (bunch of returners). SO i think they will fight for second. I think Bene has a great coach and they are on the rise while mac's defensive coaching is suspect. So i pick Bene to beat mac again. mac should pound eureka and curf.

IBFC_ALum, these are my observations of each program. it has nothing to do with anger just an opinion.

Gome Pyle, i believe both backs for Cuw are better than Ereg. he is good but i 'd rather face him then the other 2.

Didnt AU also lose 1 or 2 linebackers and some WR as well as some O-lineman
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Genius

RBs that have the ability to break long runs and make people miss strike more fear in me than backs who are simply downhill runners (physical style).

I believe the 2backs at CUW run hard but they are also elusive. I would not say the same about Ereg. he runs very hard but he isn't that elusive. He'll run you over but he'll fall and get a yard extra. The 2 CUW backs will make u miss and keep running, plus they are hard runners. they aren't as physical that Ereg but physical enough.

It is also very difficult for me to separate the RBs from the olines. When you also add the oline in the mix I would rather face Ereg then the cuw backs. Who cares who the best back is if the oline doesn't allow him to show his skills. It doesn't mean anything in reality. The RB from Eureka the last couple years was really good. But his oline was so crappy he got no recognition.

So I will say it again "They are all good backs but i would rather face Ereg then the other 2." THAT IS REALITY IN ACTION, NOT BIAS!!!

Inside info on Mac... that is great that they got some good players coming in. Do they play o or dline? They got enough skill guys they need big uglies.

Did you also get the inside info on Mac that they are struggling with retention. It is hard to get a lot better when you lose have of your team and have to replace them. Ask your sources about that...

On a separate note...anybody else got All-staters coming in from the state that produces nothing but D1 prospects?

IBFC_Alum

Genius,

I guess if you like the misdirection style of football then the CUW guys would be great choice. I personally like the running backs that grind it out. To me they wear down a team more and that is more important than the occaisonal long run you might get from a elusive RB. Its all about the style of the game that you like. Besides Ereg has enough speed to get the job done.  He is not the fastest RB in the conference but like you said "fast enough" to get the job done. So I will say "I would rather face the scat backs from CUW than Ereg."

As for your comments on retention, All schools in this conference deal with retention issues.  Kids transfer in and out.  As well as flunk out in "ALL" schools.
Like I said in an earlier post, Mac has continually raised their acdemic bar for the past 3 to 4 years. If kids do not make the grades they have to go somewhere else. That is a good thing for Mac.  So if it means they loose some players then they loose some players. 
You make it sound as if Mac is the only school having these problems.  You remember 2-time Conference Player of The Year Cedric Simmons from CUW,  why didn't he finnish his senior year?  The list can go on and on. (especially at CUW)  That is just an example.  This happens to every team, every year.
By the way, the recruits are skill positions and Linemen.  And its not sources telling me this info, its myself and the group of coaches we worked with to get these kids to Mac. So it is not hear-say.   
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Reeno10

Genius, how could you say that you would like to have two Mediocre running backs on a good team, with a good O-line than a hard runner that has ALREADY PROVEN HIMSELF with a o.k offensive line. Lets get to the COLD HARD facts..........CUW backs to Ereg....Offensive Back of the year..Ereg **no oline too that year..well i will say not the offensive line CUW has.....2 year 1st team all conference running back..Ereg.....and most likely will be three years next year..... finished 12th in the country in rushing in 2004-2005 and 18th in the country in 2005-2006, that shows consistantsy, was any of the returning backs for CUW that you were talking about close to that?...i dont think so...also look at the conference stats in the last 2 years i beleive you will see Ereg in the top 2 in every rushing category!! So how can you Not be BIAS when the stats are here in black and white!! Pete is one of the hardest runners i have ever been around and seen and he produces year in and year out with O.K offensive line!! do me a favor look at all the 1st and 2nd team all conference offensive lineman that CUW has had in the last two years and look at Macs!! Look above genius at the things that Ereg did with what he had to work with, and tell me that you would choose two, like i said, MEDIOCRE backs, with a GREAT offensive line than a back with no offensive line and still did what he did! Its all there BLACK AND WHITE!!! look it up for yourself.....Put Ereg with that offensive line that CUW has and see what he does! Its ok i am not making up excuses because i am positive that he will be first team all conference again this year!! that will be his third year in a row too!! Tell me Genius why would you choose those two backs becasue really man they HAVE NOT PROVEN SH*T YET to me!! FACTS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES, LOOK IT UP GENIUS! I personally dont think anyone wants to see Mac back on top because they play hard nose football game in and game out whatever the score may be!! but i agree with the issue about oline and dline because everything else is there!! Good luck to everyone else in the conference...i just couldnt see a great back being DISRESPECTED like that way he has been in this room! Ereg IS THE BEST RETURNING BACK IN THE CONFERENCE, BELIEVE THAT, i dont want to hear the haters no more..lts all there black and white look it up no one compares!

GO MAC

NCAA Football

I have to agree with you Reeno 10.  Ereg has done it each year with a mediocre oline.  He has been in the top of the conference, so I would take Ereg over the two CUW backs anyday.  He can wear defenses down with his hard nose running style, which can also control the pace of the game.  It will be interesting to see what happens next year.     
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maddog8

Without question, Ereg is the best in the conference this yr, Aarron Gillesppee sorry if it's wrong from CUW s second and then comes Erdman from Lakeland. But if the Dog could only pick one of these 3 then the winner would be EREG hands down. Damn Gomer what do you think of that. I also will say that Mac will be back this yr. Coach Tesfa will have one of the top Defensive teams in the conference. The players and talent is there question only being "WILL THEY LISTEN TO THEIR COACHES AND PLAY WITH ATTITUDE AND PRIDE" That's all that I see lacking. The battle will still come down to Lakeland and CUW for Crown.

Maddog calls it like the Dog see's it!

IBFC_Alum

Genius,

I guess i am not the only one who feels that way.  Ereg is the best RB,  Mac will be much inproved and the conference will return to a 4-way battle for the top spot (Mac,CUW,Lakeland and AU). Can't wait for the season to begin.  Highlanders keep working hard.  Get back to the top of the conference!!!!!
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FalconsFootball

I agree that Ereg is good but I beleive it was the CUW defense that wore him down the last couple years. As for picking one I'll take all three Thunder and Lightning and Lightning. 

IBFC_Alum

Quote from: falcsfb on May 12, 2006, 11:47:35 AM
I agree that Ereg is good but I beleive it was the CUW defense that wore him down the last couple years. As for picking one I'll take all three Thunder and Lightning and Lightning.

well he can't block and run for himself at the same time.  When he does make contact with defenders they usually feel it more than he does.
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Gomer Pyle

 Maddog:
  You said," Gomer, what do you think of that?"
     To that i say, finally you got something correct!
     ;D
    By the way, happy birthday.
     

maddog8