FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference

[Genius]

If a guy got overlooked for an all conference team it is probably because he's not as good as you think they are.

Coaches don't vote for their own players. So if other coaches don't vote for a player, that player isn't as respected as you think. Bottom line. A few guys are overlooked (maybe 1 in 50). But not many. What some people think is being overlooked, other people are thinking... he isn't that good or he isn't as good as the some other player.

Look at the #3 & #4 tackler (both from Eureka) in the conference playing for the worst defense in the conference. Just because they have the stats don't mean they are all conference worthy. On the flip side if you are a WR and don't have hardly any stats you aren't going to be voted.No matter how fast you are or how good of a blocker or how great your offense is. There must be a healthy balance.

But bottom line...if other team's coaches don't vote for you then they didn't think to highly of you in comparision to some other player. Stats or no stats you must earn the respect of the opposing teams coaches. Not the bias view of mommy and daddy or your teammate.

[zorbadagreek]

Does anyone on the Badger conference website do spell check?? Try it out sometime. Just a sugesttin,hahaha.

[Da One]

As far as gaining reccogintion as a All-Conference player, it is how it has always been.  To the victor go the spoils.  The team that wins the title should have the most players on the All-Conf team.  The situation with the EC LB's, just goes to show that putting up rediculous numbers on a poor team doesn't count for much.  Maybe those guys had a lot of tackles because no one else on the team could tackle (just a possiblity).  If you want to be an All-Conf player and you are on a bad team, your numbers better be good enough to be nationaly ranked.

Sorry I don't have time to spell check!

[footballisfun]

But those two kids from Eurka did make the Conf. list.  The DB made HM and the LB made 2nd team.  Not great for what they did but they still made it.  It depends on both the team you play on and you numbers but I personally think that it is more on the # then by the team you play on.

[Reeno10]

I agree with one of the posters when they say that all-conference is voted by OTHER COACHES beside their own......which comes to one and only thing when making all conference.......RESPECT!!!! its not about numbers or teams for the most part its about the RESPECT that, that player earns from opposing coaches.....VOTES do count but besides that point season starts in 2 months lets talk about next season.... i havent been in the confernce in a while so who in others eyes are the top two in QB....WR...RB...LB....and DB this year...is there any attention getters this year???

P.S-- WHO CARES ABOUT LAST YEAR...next year is just around the corner....lets get in the 2006-2007 now

[maddog8]

Big "A" still the top receiver, even though your retired should think of ARENA football. My picks at your positions, QB-- Hornang--AU, and Wilk--Lakeland, Now every will say are you crazy not Schmitke, nope I fell he took a dive last year against Lakeland and I have lost respect for him until he redeems himself, WR--Martin--Mac, and White--Lakeland, RB--Ereg--Mac, Gilleppssee (no spell check here, you know who I am talking about)--CUW, LB--Greenville and Mac's LB to start again look for WAGNER-Lakeland by end of season to be in top, DB's--Schopp--Greenville and Tyrece from Lakeland, DL--Langston (conference player of the year) and Allen both from CUW, OL--Homer--Lakeland and Phal from Lakeland (again no spell check), easy fella's my opinions. Over last (4) years, WR--Big "A" from Mac and Taff from Lakeland, RB--Mills-CUW and Ereg--Mac, QB--Maiuri and Lubke from Lakeland, OL- VanDalen and Homer Lakeland, DL, Langston--CUW and Benton--Lakeland, LB--Schringer and Van Doo Loo from Lakeland, DB"s Perry and Davison from AU

[Genius]

WR- Martin-mac... White Lakeland. talented wr but suspect hands. Should be as good as anyone but over rated.

QB- Hornung AU -easily. No one else worth mentioning.
Wilks LC-no experience-not many starters returning around him. If he is an all-conference type qb then he should have had a better showing in the playoffs last year.

RB-  Gillespie front runner. Best talent around him, if he plays fb in that system he will have best chance for top numbers. ereg- mac

DBs- Hutchins CUW, Schopp GC, Tyrece- LC

DL-  Langston and Allen CUW, Reece GC

LB- Harriel GC, Pirollo- Mac,

OL- Mask  CUW, Poe T JR GC

TE-?

in terms of the last 4 years- top 3 backs i've seen in this conference has been Slotback from CUW 02 was his last year. He was the Reggie Bush of this conference. I don't remember his name. But he was the RB of the year. Then Mills from CUW, then Harriel from GC. Ereg is not in the same class as those guys. QB- Maiuri LC then Hornug AU.

By the way... if LC has had the best QBs, OL, DL, LBs in the last 4 years then they need a new coach. Because if those guys were as talented as you say then they should have won more than 1 outright title and 1 tie. THey also should be CUW more.

[maddog8]

Genius, in the last 3 years Lakeland 's QB have been IBFC back of year and IBFC player of the year, LB's last 3 years have been tops at that position, DL ranks neck and neck with CUW and as a Coach the best in the conference the 3 years Coach "Z" has been there. In last 4 years they have won just as many titles as CUW. Again if you look at the people I put on my list there are alot of CUW and Lakeland players which have dominated the conference. Wilk like Ryan had to wait his turn as for his showing in the playoffs, well nothing like being thrown to the wolves. He still did a decent job against a top 20 team. Couldn't expect more when you play sparingly all year behind the best in the league. He will be up there at the top trust me.

[footballisfun]

Ok so we have talked about what potions are going to be strong but where are teams going to be weak this year?

[Gomer Pyle]

Genius:  You were talking about a player from CUW,
  2002 season, who you called, " the Reggie Bush of this (IBFC) conference." but couldn`t remember his name.
   Try this one..........Cedric Simmons. 
   That season Mac was undefeated and CUW only had (1) loss in conference play.
   The game was at CUW`s field and Mac won it
    14-9 and yes, The big "A" caught a TD pass.
   One of the best games ever played in the IBFC,
    IMO.
    Maddog, in case your wondering......LC was 4-3
    in conference play for 2002.  Does the term ......
    non-contender come to mind?
   

[Gomer Pyle]

 To all concerned: Check the D-3 web-site.
   The SLIAC has re-instated football! also included
   are the new members.
   Doesn`t look to be a monster conference but
     Time will tell.
   I know everybody has some comments on this
    new developement so lets hear them.
    Maddog (aka...Mel Allen)  what do you think?
    Looks like LC is staying....where ever that is.
     The "new" SLIAC may be a more competitive
     one in that there doesn`t look to be any
     real powerhouse schools involved.  OK, maybe
     Mac. 
      If it`s like the "old" SLIAC (check out their web-
     site)  Mac might well end up being the "big-dog"
    in what looks to be a lesser conference then the
     current IBFC.... IMO. 
     
     
   

[gc_fan]

as a Greenville fan, sounds like a great move, it will be nice to be able to stay in the same conference for all sports.  I remeber the last seaon of competion with the SLIAC there were co-champs with MacMurray, Greenville, and I believe Westminster all being co-champs.  I am curious why Principia is the other school chosen for the north division, why not one that is further north, like a Eureka or Mac?

[Pat Coleman]

Maybe for competitive balance? Not sure.

In this group, I expect Northwestern to compete for the title from the North, with Martin Luther and Morris trying to catch them.

The SLIAC group probably will be considered behind the NAthCon in 2008.

[Gomer Pyle]

 NorthWestern(Minn) looks to be the "class" of these schools  with an 8-3 record last year(2005)
  As all schools noted above played as Independents i`m sure they will welcome the chance to play in a  conference where the conference champ get an automatic bid to the NCAA
  play-offs, eventually if not sooner.
  Crown was 3-5, Martin-Luther was 5-3, Minnesota-Morris was 4-6. These are won/loss records from 2005.
This is the type of conference where "all" can be considered contenders with Greenville a real sleeper. IMO.
 












 
 

[aufb05]

Just woke up from a long winters nap. How's your son doing Maddog? To the business at hand. Gomer nailed it - the sleeper or sweeper can be Greenville if they continue to move/play in the direction they went/did last season.