FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference

[Fartcus Smellwood]

Hello Gomer and all others who continue to cry about the Muskies, First, Coach "Z" is the best coach in this conference along with the CUW coach, they have proven themselves time and time again. Enough said on that. Second, who would be so foolish to leave any valuables in any locker room. You subject yourself to have your things stolen. These times are not like the 60/70;s when I was a kid, hell people stole then, so why why why would you leave a valuable in any locker room, LESSON LEARNED, and trust me if Z knew of this the player/s would be kicked off the team. As for personal fouls show a game where one was not made. it is a rarity for any team not to have one or 2. Lakeland and its program is clean cut, they do make mistakes which has cost them some games but dirty. cheap etc, they are NOT. And for the knucklehead who said the pain train is lame, sounds like he kicked your azz during the game.  And you got to be kidding me the BEST coach to leave Lakeland for CUC, TRUST ME HINES, HYNES WHAT EVER WAS THE WORST COACH I HAVE EVER MET OR SEEN COACH,  Other than Coach "Z" the BEST was Randy Awery who is at Saginaw Valley State University. You got to be kidding Hynes, I think my son ryan said it best in front of Hynes and his teamates 4 yrs ago, were only as good as our weakest linkd and he is finally leaving!!!!!! End of that discusion, he was right because then Z came along and LOOK where Lakeland is at the top of there program Where Randy Awery left it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Have a great day

you make me laugh. first, Hynes is what started Lakeland in the right direction so no, he was not a bad coach, at least in the recruiting aspect. And people leave their crap out in their locker room because it is their locker room. If the guys off the Lakeland did try taking their stuff, you would think they would be smart enough not to leave it in the locker room they were in...but then again they are from Lakeland, I don't think much is expected. Two, the pain train is lame and I am sure many will agree because only Lakeland fans think it is something cool with their dumb train whistles...haha. I don't come on here and cry, I defend a team I like as well as everyone else on here. No one on here is idle and likes every team, everyone has their favorite. And you are insane to say that LC is not a dirty team and that they are clean cut...get real Maddogg.

[mac_5_seven]

Sorry Marcus, but Awrey is the one who got their program off in the right direction.  Hynes may have been the coordinator when Awrey was there, but didn't fair so well as their head coach..

[ftbll4life]

Second, who would be so foolish to leave any valuables in any locker room. You subject yourself to have your things stolen. These times are not like the 60/70;s when I was a kid, hell people stole then, so why why why would you leave a valuable in any locker room, LESSON LEARNED, and trust me if Z knew of this the player/s would be kicked off the team.

That is a great point it's a locker room, where your things should be safe. Now I know that isn't always true. What are you going to do with your things when you're at practice, you going to take them with you out to practice? I know I'm not going to; they are going to stay in my locker. So don't try and put the blame on the basketball players for their stuff getting taking.

Pat it did happen, you can talk to the people at Lakeland all you want about what happen. They don't know they weren't their. Put I will believe the basketball players that it happen to.

Also the almighty and power coach "Z" did celebrate, with #50, after the QB from CUC went down.

[lem4094]

As an ol' IBFCer, who doesn't post much, take this for what you feel it's worth:

I think that dead horse has been beaten enough.  The AD's of each school conferred with each other and what was seen as the proper action was taken.  As for the celebrating, I did see the excitement of the player and the coach soon after the play, but I interpereted it as reaction to a big sack on a fourth and long.  Were the LC players dirty, I feel they were chippy, but the refs made a point of keeping it under control, the best they could, with the use of the flag (the personal fouls that is.  The holds and blocks in the back I couldn't see from my vantage point). 

As for the fans, fans will be fans.  So what they have something they have that ties them with their team and a way they support them.  You don't hear people complaining about the FSU tomohawk chop is, the flashing of the USC "V" with two fingers or the WE ARE MARSHALL chants.  Support your team, focus on the game and enjoy it.

Let's get back to stats, good solid play and just talk good football.

[adeer2284]

This LC theft/dirty play topic is irrelevant. Whether it happened or didn't happen, it means nothing now because its over.  If you don't want your ipod or cell phone stolen, dont bring it to practice or lock it up while its unattended.  END OF STORY.  LC won the game easily; they dominated from start to finish. That should be the real story from that game, since everyone from CUC believes the team has improved.  CUC still has a long way to go to compete for any type of conference title.  I'm tired of getting on here and reading so much that is away from conference football.  No one seems to be talking about how CUW has run through our weak D3 conference and has a legitimate chance of bringing a tiny bit of respect for a conference that doesn't deserve much.  Let's start talking more football and less crap about who did this, and who did that.  Re-read what Pat has posted, I don't think he's that crazy. 


My predictions for week 10:

CUW beats BU, but not without a fight from BU. The difference in the score will depend on whether CUW wants to cruise into the playoffs with their bye week after this game or play hard for that 10-0 season. 35-10

Greenville rolls over CUC even after the heartbreaker last week. Number 1 pass defense might be hard for CUC with or without Weeks and teams rush the ball well against the Cougars 3-3 defense. 45-7

Eureka was much more improved than I expected, but with Mac playing LC as tough as they did, I'm leaning much more towards Mac.  They have their QB back from his injury and that has opened up things for Ereg. 27-14, Mac

LC is a solid all-around team as always, but the young AU team has made some strides as the season has progress.LC isn't quite the team they were a year ago, but their skill guys are still talented along with a bunch of physical offensive and defensive linemen.  AU wants this game bad after the 58-0 spanking they took a year ago in WI.   I like my AU spartans at home in a close one, 14-13

Best of luck to all the teams this weekend.

[lem4094]

True adeer! 

What team is CUW projected to get in the first round this year?  Any idea Pat?  Will they be an Eastern or Southern team?  I am still a little behind on how the match-ups are created, but my conjecture is the rotation will most likely be from one of those two regions.

[TruCountry95]

True adeer! 

What team is CUW projected to get in the first round this year?  Any idea Pat?  Will they be an Eastern or Southern team?  I am still a little behind on how the match-ups are created, but my conjecture is the rotation will most likely be from one of those two regions.

May be North Central again for a classic rematch.  More than likely someone out of the CCIW.

[Reeno10]

since mostly everyone has seen everyone one play in ur eyes who is 1st team all conference and the MVPS at each postion??also MAC SUCKS lol...larry wait until u see that *** on beth

[lem4094]

Gotta say Gillespie and Reder are my first team RB's (although I never saw Ereg- Mac play)

QB would be Wilk.  Throws a nice ball and is a smart player.  Very patient in his checks.

WR- White-LC, Taylor-GC, Sturgel- CUC and Collier-CUW all ran solid routes and have great hands.  I do also include the YAC except for the recievers who only made one reception in the game and was nonexistant the rest of the time.  I feel you need to be a reciever who can consistantly get open and make the plays so I did eliminate some of the 'burners' in this category.

K-Senniac- GC

All Defensive and OL positions, well, I only watched those as units and not anyone in particular so I have no real say on those.  Also, these are only based on the teams I watched play this year and nothing else.  I may have missed one of the other players' big games here or there, so that is my disclaimer.

[BoBo]

Yeah, I was going to comment on how Whitewater beat them by like 70 because they played dirty so didn't take their starters out and ran up the score.

FYI - WW had all their starters out of the game by halftime (some of them early in the 2nd quarter).  They were running up to score with their 2nd and 3rd team in the 3rd quarter and the 4th teamers in the 4th quarter.  I thought it was time to bring in an impartial jury member into the discussion.

[RubberBiscut]

I am new to this. I decided to register because I just want some loose ends tied up.

First, did both AD's from concordia and lakeland talk about what happen, and if so does that not prove that it took place!

Second, Looking at concordiaW I dont think they cruised along in the conf. Greenville and concordiaC both played them well and Greenville gave them a big scare. Do you think ConcordiaW has a chance at winning a playoff game, after struggling against ConcordiaC and greenville?

Third, compaired to the past years of concordiaC being horrible, do you all agree that the team had improved. not as much as greenville or ben, but still has improved.

fourth, Is the QB from concordia a threat to be an all american when he comes back for his last year next year and how will concordia, ben, and Eurika do in the confrences they will be in next year. same old same old or a new begginging?

Lastly, This is for 7400 west, the locker rooms at concordiaC are locked and the bball locker room is not the same as the away football locker room and should have been locked to avoid this from happening at all. I would like to hear why this happen. If you leave food out in the kitchen you are asking for the dog to jump on the table and eat it. You dont get mad at the dog you get mad at yourself.

[lem4094]

I am new to this. I decided to register because I just want some loose ends tied up.

First, did both AD's from concordia and lakeland talk about what happen, and if so does that not prove that it took place!

I was only assuming, since Pat had talked to the Asst. AD from Lakeland.  It would never had been replied to, by a school official, if the ADs hadn't touched base.  My point is the proper reps. of the schools were notified and they were, and ultimately are responsible, for taking care of that type of business, not football post rooms.

[bufan]

RubberBiscut, that analogy of the dog jumping on the kitchen counter made me literally laugh out loud.

Sorry I just posted for no real reason

[adeer2284]

I can't tell you I see eye to eye with your all conference votes, lem4094.  I do agree with you that Wilks is the 1st team QB considering that he leads the conference in passing yards, and total offense, but he has thrown quite a few interceptions and has the over most athletic recieving core in the conference.  But I was very impressed with GC QB Kegel who is very accurate, consistant, and has a better passing rating and less interceptions than Wilks.  Weeks from CUC and McGary from AU also are deserving of some conference recognition.  

I'm not sure I give Reder the go for all-conference just because the teams hes got his majority of his carries against weren't the best teams in the conference.  Although, if you saw him against CUC he had an amazing performance and definitely has a future as a great running back for AU.  The all-conference backs are easily Gillespie, who early in the season was considered for offensive player of the year, and Ereg who was previously the all-conference running back and just got off to a really slow start this season.  Both average over 30 yards more per game then any other back in the league.  

Stienmetz is the a no-brainer for 1st team all conference punt returner.  Along with Langston, Harriel, Pirollo in their prospective positions.  The rest of the defensive starters are really a toss up to me.  I really didn't get a great chance to observe all the defesive positions in the league so I'm not going to guess.  

Recieving core is very difficult to pick this year.  Multiple athletic recivers have proved worthy, but since I am a defensive back and have played/covered/watched film against all of them, I know who is legit and who isn't.  The obvious 2 deserving of 1st team all-conference consideration are Taylor from GC and White from LC.  Both have put up great numbers compared to last years' reciever of the year Joe Folliard, from AU.  I think the 3rd spot has to go to Collier from CUW.  Yes, hes fourth in both yards per game and receptions per game, but you can't deny his 10 recieving touchdowns this year.  That stat alone puts him over the edge for me.

Some offensive lineman I believe are deserving is Renfro from GC.  I think that is his name, excuse me if I am wrong.  I just remember he was 6'4" and nearly 300lbs and moved very well.  I also think Nic Koch from AU has been an excellent offensive lineman deserving all-conference honors.  I thought the entire CUW offensive line was impressive but I couldn't pick just one outstanding lineman from the team.  I don't mean any disrespect by that statement.  They were all very good but I can't remember any specific players. Maybe someone could help me out with their names. I have yet to see LC offensive lineman play so I can't make any judgement quite yet of their OL, but I'm sure theres some great talent from there.

[FatalImpact]

EyesInTheSky,
I hear ya.... I have had many coaches over my time as a player all showing class, we just felt SOME actions were being questioned not all...I am a former player that has seen very few incidents of classlessness and a few came from Mac, a few from LC and a few from EC.........I had previously cited some classless acts,....This post is to show that all teams do play hard and go THROUGH the whistle and sometimes it appears that acts are classless....On one occassion I have seen LC be classless..as I stated before a player from LC felt the need to drop a knee into an AU LB...That is one of the only ones I can think of....EC had a few last year one of which they tried to tackle AU's Qb on the last play last year as AU was taking a knee....Their d-tackle and their LB then proceeded to flip off the AU sideline....that is true classlessness.......This shows that most every team has done something so lets move on