FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference

Gregory Sager · November 21, 2006, 01:11:14 AM

Quote from: Mugsy on November 21, 2006, 01:07:33 AMAnd I doubt the CCIW is looking to invite another Wisconsin team due to travel expenses for the Augustana, Millikin and Illinois Wesleyan games.

Part of the reason Carroll College dropped out of the CCIW was due to travel expenses.

Travel expenses and scheduling. It was a total headache for the CCIW to have both Carroll and Carthage in the league, because it meant that the men's and women's basketball teams for both schools had to do Friday/Saturday overnights down in Decatur and Bloomington, and in turn Millikin and Illinois Wesleyan's men's and women's basketball teams had to do Friday/Saturday overnights up in Kenosha and Waukesha. Everyone hated that setup, and it was a relief when Carroll's departure no longer made it necessary.

baseman201 · November 21, 2006, 01:14:49 AM

Yeah, the NAC won't be much better either.

And I said before that CUW would probably be a .500 team or lower if they were in most other conferences, just think if the other teams in this conference weren't in the IBC? It would be madness, no one would win a game. CUC, EU and BU (not lately though) struggled to even win one game in the IBC. AU, LC and CUW would maybe win a couple, but that's it.

It's good the IBC will be no more, we can start fresh with a new conference and maybe something good will happen.......maybe.

But I think everyone agrees that no one from the IBC will win a playoff game, not even the "great" playoff bound AU squad for next year.

Gregory Sager · November 21, 2006, 02:08:28 AM

Quote from: baseman201 on November 21, 2006, 01:14:49 AM
Yeah, the NAC won't be much better either.

Travel in several team sports should improve for this conference when MSOE joins next year, because the conference will go to divisions (at least in basketball; I suspect that they'll go to divisions in sports such as volleyball, baseball, softball, etc., as well). But that won't help much as far as football is concerned. Since not every member of the NAthCon fields a football team, it'll just be one division for the gridders ... with plenty of long busrides.

baseman201 · November 21, 2006, 08:45:19 AM

Actually Gregory I was just talking about how the NAC won't field a playoff winning football team for a long time as well.

But thanks for all the other input...

79jaybird · November 21, 2006, 10:19:36 AM

Greg or Mugsy, I know why Carroll left the CCIW, but why did Lake Forest leave?
Football-- I think the NAC will be a "continuation" of the IBFC and not much will change. You will have great Academic Institutions in the conference, but so-so to mediocre football teams in the NAC. It is indeed a fresh start, and a clean slate. Perhaps some teams can "rise up" and make a playoff run.

aufb05 · November 21, 2006, 01:29:41 PM

Marcus-

I with you - whats up with these karma points? Who gives them - Who takes them away? Anyone?
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ptownhero has 3 posts and -2 karma. Who decided that. Is there a guide to posting that will tell eveyrone how to improve karma scores or why we should?

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Mugsy · November 21, 2006, 01:33:27 PM

Quote from: 79jaybird on November 21, 2006, 10:19:36 AM
Greg or Mugsy, I know why Carroll left the CCIW, but why did Lake Forest leave?
Football-- I think the NAC will be a "continuation" of the IBFC and not much will change. You will have great Academic Institutions in the conference, but so-so to mediocre football teams in the NAC. It is indeed a fresh start, and a clean slate. Perhaps some teams can "rise up" and make a playoff run.

I'm sure I've heard why Lake Forest left before, but I can't recall the specifics. I probably heard it from Greg since he is the CCIW historian of the group.

This occurred well before my time.

7400West · November 21, 2006, 04:47:57 PM

Can someone talk about something more exciting!

JRHarriel25 · November 21, 2006, 05:58:43 PM

Quote from: 7400West on November 21, 2006, 04:47:57 PM
Can someone talk about something more exciting!

How about...Players to watch out for 2007 season:
(no perticular order)

Mac- Terry Martin
CUC- Jason Weeks
Mac- Rodney Payne...This dude is good
GC- Dom Kegel
CUW- Wilbur Allen
Mac- Antwain Jones
GC- Mark Schopp
LC- John Wagner

(Its more so help me out)

79jaybird · November 21, 2006, 08:39:41 PM

Those of you probably know that Dominican University (River Forest, IL) is a member of the Northern Athletics Conference (The University doesn't have football) and is a few blocks away from Concordia. Just want to mention that their Soccer Team was 1 win away from the Final Four. Congrats on a great season Stars. (ah, Stars is their mascot)
Too bad Dominican doesn't have a Football Team, that would make for a great River Forest Rivalry with town bragging rights.

Gregory Sager · November 22, 2006, 01:34:27 AM

Quote from: Mugsy on November 21, 2006, 01:33:27 PM
Quote from: 79jaybird on November 21, 2006, 10:19:36 AM
Greg or Mugsy, I know why Carroll left the CCIW, but why did Lake Forest leave?
Football-- I think the NAC will be a "continuation" of the IBFC and not much will change. You will have great Academic Institutions in the conference, but so-so to mediocre football teams in the NAC. It is indeed a fresh start, and a clean slate. Perhaps some teams can "rise up" and make a playoff run.

I'm sure I've heard why Lake Forest left before, but I can't recall the specifics. I probably heard it from Greg since he is the CCIW historian of the group.

This occurred well before my time.

It was long before my time as well, but I can venture two guesses as to why Lake Forest left the CCIW:

1) Non-competitiveness (aside from golf and wrestling, the Foresters didn't really fare very well in any sports)
2) Opportunism (the MWC was a healthier conference than the CCIW in terms of membership stability back then; the CCIW was in the midst of a period of retrenchment in which charter members Wheaton and Elmhurst had recently left the league, North Park had just joined, and former member Carthage had just re-joined. There was a lot of flux in the league, and I'm sure the MWC looked like a better long-term bet to hold together than did the CCIW.)

Gomer Pyle · November 22, 2006, 07:16:41 AM

Quote from: aufb05 on November 21, 2006, 01:29:41 PM
Marcus-

I with you - whats up with these karma points? Who gives them - Who takes them away? Anyone?
Personally, I don't get the point of having them.

ptownhero has 3 posts and -2 karma. Who decided that. Is there a guide to posting that will tell eveyrone how to improve karma scores or why we should?
Can we trade karma points in for free D3 FB pics or passes to games?

Your fellow posters give ( Applaud) or take away(smite) karma points.
That way they can agree/dis-agree with out comment.
Lazy man`s voting system.

aufb05 · November 22, 2006, 09:50:24 AM

Thanks Gomer-

How does it work - I wanna give out some love.

11 do I hear 12

sotha sil · November 22, 2006, 10:14:24 AM

Guys from CUW to look at...these are unproven but could be amazing players...

WR Kevin barrett- fastest Guy at CUW..and can catch the ball well..he will be working with Collier on his routes and should be good as hell

Jeremy Carver- came from a great highschool program in FL where he picked off some of the nations top QBs..great instincts just needs to get the scheme down

TJ #20 at the QB..i love that number at qb...has all the skills, lacks the height but can move and has proven already he can play..now has to step it up and be a leader and give CUW something is hasnt had in a while ...a starting QB the whole season through

FalconsFootball · November 22, 2006, 11:12:16 AM

I know you have to be invited by the other teams in the confernce to join and that there is a slim to none chance of CUW getting an invite, I am saying that is what I wish would happen. As far is only going .500 Marcus and baseman I don't think you know what you are talking about.

CUW got spanked in their playoff game because they were allowed to get worse every week playing the garbage teams in the IBFC, while NCC was forced to get better every week.

I would have to say CUW this year would have lost two maybe three games in the CCIW putting them in 2nd or third. Like I said, a dismal perforance by CUW many times this year still allowed them to come up with wins. Competition brings out the best in teams, and many teams are not cometition. CUW will simply go through the motions and still win.