FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference

[bufan]

baseman101,
I see your matchups and this is my biggest problem with that.  This may sound confsing but I will try my best.  This is what the bracket would look like.
1 OSU v 8 Boise St.
4 LSU v 5 USC
3 Michigan v 6 Louisville
2 Florida v 7 Wisconsin

My problem with this format is that by the last game of the playoff, the two teams will be so mentally, emotionally and physically drained we wont get to see the best possible game as if both teams were 100% fresh.  I mean take Michigan for example, they are gonna have to beat Louisville, Florida likely, and either OSU, LSU, or USC...To mentally and physically prepare for these teams in 3 consecutive weeks is not healthy.  This is more typical pro-style playoff though the seeding is different of course.  These kids are still in college and are younger than us.  You cannot expect them to be able to come back on top of their game after playing these high-profile programs, week after week.  So Florida has the toughest schedule, played one more game(vs Arkansas who is better than Boise and Wis.)unlike everyone else, then you say, oh by the way, beat Michigan and Ohio State.  Yes, by pure default someone will win 3 in a row and be the champs.  I really truly think that you have to set the "excitement factor" aside and really take a look as to what is the best method to get the 2 best teams.

Things about the BCS that are stupid are:
Conference champs get an automatic bid (did anyone notice how VTech was ranked higher than any other ACC team, but yet didnt play for the ACC championship game?  Thats because of those ridiculous divisions they have)
ND gets an at-large if they win 9 games
The 40 day lay-off.
The voters are flat awful.
Among other things.

But what isnt stupid is that it gives u a clear cut number 1 and 2...whether u agree with it or not.

Not to mention Oklahoma would be in the top 8 if it wasnt for some whack job official of the pac 10.  But thats another argument.

[bufan]

Can someone tell me the difference between the "Player of the Year" award, "Most Outstanding Player" award and the Heisman trophy?  Because no one will ever convince me that they just gave the Oustanding player award to Brady Quinn the other night because he deserved it.  They did it because he was gonna go home empty handed, otherwise.  Are those not the same 3 meanings?

And kind of off topic, why does there always have to be just 1 MVP, why couldnt Kobe and Nash win it last year?  Kind of stupid if you ask me.

[baseman201]

Bufan-

I see what you mean with the consecutive games in 3 weeks, etc...

But what about all other college divisions, they are the same age and most of them work just as hard as the D-I guys.

There will ALWAYS be two groups, people who want a playoff and people who just want the BCS.  Both ways have flaws I admit, but honestly something needs to change.

I will get back to you later Piroll09

[JRHarriel25]

WOW...lol      Stats dont lie, nor does film...I got the shaft

Need I say more?

Congrats John Wagner

[CardinalAlum]

WOW...lol      Stats dont lie, nor does film...I got the shaft

Need I say more?

No, your coaches and school shafted you. 

[lem4094]

baseman101,
I see your matchups and this is my biggest problem with that.  This may sound confsing but I will try my best.  This is what the bracket would look like.
1 OSU v 8 Boise St.
4 LSU v 5 USC
3 Michigan v 6 Louisville
2 Florida v 7 Wisconsin

My problem with this format is that by the last game of the playoff, the two teams will be so mentally, emotionally and physically drained we wont get to see the best possible game as if both teams were 100% fresh.  I mean take Michigan for example, they are gonna have to beat Louisville, Florida likely, and either OSU, LSU, or USC...To mentally and physically prepare for these teams in 3 consecutive weeks is not healthy.  This is more typical pro-style playoff though the seeding is different of course.  These kids are still in college and are younger than us.  You cannot expect them to be able to come back on top of their game after playing these high-profile programs, week after week.  So Florida has the toughest schedule, played one more game(vs Arkansas who is better than Boise and Wis.)unlike everyone else, then you say, oh by the way, beat Michigan and Ohio State.  Yes, by pure default someone will win 3 in a row and be the champs.  I really truly think that you have to set the "excitement factor" aside and really take a look as to what is the best method to get the 2 best teams.

Things about the BCS that are stupid are:
Conference champs get an automatic bid (did anyone notice how VTech was ranked higher than any other ACC team, but yet didnt play for the ACC championship game?  Thats because of those ridiculous divisions they have)
ND gets an at-large if they win 9 games
The 40 day lay-off.
The voters are flat awful.
Among other things.

But what isnt stupid is that it gives u a clear cut number 1 and 2...whether u agree with it or not.

Not to mention Oklahoma would be in the top 8 if it wasnt for some whack job official of the pac 10.  But thats another argument.

They should go to a Plus one system.  Top 6 teams play in three of the four major BCS bowls (1v4, 2v3, and 5v6) on New Years Day.  The winners of the 1v4 and 2v3 play a week later for the championship in the last BCS Bowl game (which is rotated).

In this way, the 4 majors keep interest, revenue, even more for the "semi-final" Bowl games, and it eliminates the contoversy with play on the field.

Because the D-I schools already play a 13 week season, it would be a hard sell to faculties and school presidents to buy into.  They would most likely request a restructure the season to shorten the regular season (just a conjecture) and jeopordize many of the great non-conference rivalries that have developed over the years.

[JRHarriel25]

 
These are the three LB's who made 1st Team North Region

Category                  Player            Rank           Actual

Total Tackles     Adrian Pynenberg     41               10.1   
Solo Tackles      Adrian Pynenberg     44                   5.4   

Total Tackles        Jason Allen            11               11.8
Solo Tackles         Jason Allen              31                   5.8   

Total Tackles         Tom Brew             10               12.1
Tackles For Loss    Tom Brew              7                  2.2

Statistically I am by far better than every guy on the 1st Team North Region
   
Total Tackles         J.R. Harriel            15               11.5
Solo Tackles          J.R. Harriel              20                   6.2    
Pass Sacks            J.R. Harriel              30                 0.9    
Tackles For Loss    J.R. Harriel              10                   2.0    
Forced Fumbles     J.R. Harriel              8                 0.4   

What more can you ask from a single player? I work my butt of this past season and have proven myself in D3 and I dont even make the all region team.

I may be wrong but, I dont think anyone could find a SINGLE player (LB) better than me (statistically) in all of D3 football.

[Pat Coleman]

Yet one must be nominated, J.R. You can argue here until you're blue in the face but the school dropped the ball. I'm really not sure how many people have to say it before you figure it out.

Good news is that we occasionally consider un-nominated players for All-American regardless. But who knows.

[bufan]

Yeah, the plus 1 system would be a great idea.  But I dont think it would apply in all year, such as last year or this year with Ohio State being so clear cut 1.  And USC and Texas being so clear cut last year.  There would have to be a way to determine when to use and when not to use it.

[PIROLLO9]

You know what Pat..... What i have been seeing through the years is this, If a player does not go to one of the known schools in D3 than chance are that player is not going to get recongnize for anything!!! You know what the wost part about it, Pat you talk about how bad Don Hansen's Teams are and how it isn't credible, well i have friends on big time Division 1 team that i played high school football ball with and they know what don hansen is all about and the crediblity of those teams are! you know whats funny, they do not even know about d3.com nor does anyone else who doesnt play divsion 3 football. I hate the fact the your website is so involved in the POLITICS!! Just to tell who how "credible," my friends are who play college football; and whom i played high school football with, Keith Rivers, USC starting linebacker(lake mary high school), Reggie Cambell, Navy RB(lake mary high school, Cameron Bateman DB, ISU (lake mary high school), Justin Scott DB Purdue (lake mary high school) and others i cant name them all bc i had 10 divison 1 scholarship athletes on my high school team but i just wanted to name a few!! All these guys do not know about a D3.com all region, all american teams, BUT when i ask them about don hansen they know all about it!!! so i ask, Pat, why is it so POLITICAL when it comes to this website?? JUST MY OPINON!!! This whole season i see you giving respect to players who probably weren't anything in high school but probably landed themselves in a good program and worked hard to recieve honors!!! Put a couple athletes that were good in this conference on top teams in d3, THAN WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? I am not mad about myself bc i know i am getting a degree and have plenty of job opportunities after college and success is my future as far as business or coaching!!!! so what you may try to say about me will not do anything, i got respect from many of my peers on and off the field bc i played ever play like my last and i was a play maker, so pat can you give me some true answers without taking hacks at a couple former players who just show concern about your "CREDIBLE," All region and all american teams!! Thanks Pat i know you will do the right thing!!!   

[Mugsy]

What more can you ask from a single player? I work my butt of this past season and have proven myself in D3 and I dont even make the all region team.

I may be wrong but, I dont think anyone could find a SINGLE player (LB) better than me (statistically) in all of D3 football.

I don't know what is more ridiculous and selfish than a player that spouts off ad nausea on their own personal accomplishments.  Not the kinda player I want on my team... 

I know what we can ask from "a single player".  SHUT UP!  It sounds like you had a great year and are worthy of consideration.  But your SID didn't nominate you and you can't say that those who were honored don't deserve it.  And I'll bet if we look at it, we probably can't find a SINGLE player who was better.  I'll bet we'd find at least 5!

No doubt you worked your tail off.  No doubt you had a great year.  But All-Region, All-Conference, All-American teams are not "self promoted, self-nominated" honors.  Otherwise they would be completely and utterly meaningless.  Even so... 10 years from now these honors mean very little in the overall scheme of things.  People don't remember who was on what team from 10 years ago.  I'd rather hold onto what my team accomplished.

Can you be anymore arrogant?  Do us a favor and don't answer that question, because you'll probably start ranting and expousing an endless stream of "diarrhera of the mouth" on how you stats support the fact that you are better than any All-Pro linebacker.  Look out Ray Lewis and Brian Urlacher... J.R Harriel is coming.  The best linebacker in the universe (in his own mind).

[CardinalAlum]

What more can you ask from a single player? I work my butt of this past season and have proven myself in D3 and I dont even make the all region team.

I may be wrong but, I dont think anyone could find a SINGLE player (LB) better than me (statistically) in all of D3 football.

I don't know what is more ridiculous and selfish than a player that spouts off ad nausea on their own personal accomplishments.  Not the kinda player I want on my team... 

I know what we can ask from "a single player".  SHUT UP!  It sounds like you had a great year and are worthy of consideration.  But your SID didn't nominate you and you can't say that those who were honored don't deserve it.  And I'll bet if we look at it, we probably can't find a SINGLE player who was better.  I'll bet we'd find at least 5!

No doubt you worked your tail off.  No doubt you had a great year.  But All-Region, All-Conference, All-American teams are not "self promoted, self-nominated" honors.  Otherwise they would be completely and utterly meaningless.  Even so... 10 years from now these honors mean very little in the overall scheme of things.  People don't remember who was on what team from 10 years ago.  I'd rather hold onto what my team accomplished.

Can you be anymore arrogant?  Do us a favor and don't answer that question, because you'll probably start ranting and expousing an endless stream of "diarrhera of the mouth" on how you stats support the fact that you are better than any All-Pro linebacker.  Look out Ray Lewis and Brian Urlacher... J.R Harriel is coming.  The best linebacker in the universe (in his own mind).

<standing ovation>  Very well said, Mugsy.  I was trying to come up with some type of response and yours sums it up perfectly! 

[Mugsy]

Far as post season awards, not gonna lie...they will be great, but really dont mean much to me (may look nice to add to my collection). 

Interesting...  "the JRHarriel" posted on November 29th that post season awards really don't matter much, yet he is now going on a self promotion campaign about the injustice of being left off the All-Region team.  Wonder what's next?  Billboards along Illinois highways and toll roads extolling the supremacy of his stats?

Seems to me you do care about this...

[Pat Coleman]

All these guys do not know about a D3.com all region, all american teams, BUT when i ask them about don hansen they know all about it!!!

Of course they do. It's five times more likely they know a Don Hansen All-American because there are five times more of them.

Plus, let's face it, you guys are in Illinois, same as Don Hansen. He's better known in Illinois than anywhere else. We'll take the other 49 states and continue to bring you over to the bright side.

[SonsofThunder]

Simply wow.  Well said Pat, Mugsy, CardinalAlum, and anyone else who brought this kid back to planet earth.