FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference

[PIROLLO9]

Gomer.....Well thats good news about the SID..I guess, now that me and #10 are gone but it is 10 times worse than it was when you came up here.....Good rebuttle to PATS little "call out!" HAHA i loved it and your absolutely right!!! AND YES i seen the 6 all the way up to 8 pound BASS and i hope to be out there with all pretty dam soon!!!

[Pat Coleman]

Good rebuttle to PATS little "call out!" HAHA i loved it and your absolutely right!!!

Not sure why I am targeted here -- was simply trying to help by pointing out a potential source for the missing info.

[Gomer Pyle]

Good rebuttle to PATS little "call out!" HAHA i loved it and your absolutely right!!!

Not sure why I am targeted here -- was simply trying to help by pointing out a potential source for the missing info.

Pat: You are not Targeted!   My response was ment as a "thank you."
   for directing me to a possible source for finding the missing (DELETED)information from the MacMurray football site.
   As indcated, i tried but the information was not archived.
  MacMurray has done a miserable job on their Football site over the years
  and with the constant upheaval in staff it looks to continue!
   Many e-mails have been sent to the Admin ( President, Ath Director, and of course the ever present check collecting, SID.) to no avail! This over the course of several years.
   As the football team represents 17% (close) of the total student
    enrollment  one would think MacMurray would at the very least keep things up-to-date through out the entire scope of their Football web-site....
   Pass and present.  What a dis-service to the HISTORY of Mac Football
   and to the athletes  who played for those Football teams over 25 years.
   Here are a couple of comments from previous SID`s at Mac.
  (1) This one was not re-hired. He said,"........there are so many errors,mistakes on the site he is having "interns" research for and correct
  problem areas. He`s gone!
  (2) To explain the deleted information she used the terms,"........to provide uniformity.........." and "..........dropped from the prior site."
   She, by the way, had 2 bites at the apple. Twice appointed SID. Now she`s back to coaching. Damage under her watch, jury is still out. Hope those "interns" come up with an answer.
   So as i stated above................ Thank you for your interest and help.
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   

[PIROLLO9]

BRAVO!!!!!!!!!! WELL SAID GOMER!!!! THAT IS ONE OF MANY THINGS THAT ARE MESSED UP AT A TERRIBLE COLLEGE!!

[Reeno10]

i agree with #9 i will never endorse anything for MAC, losing the records page and nobody knowing where it went is ****ed up to me.. people work hard to break records and when they finally do MAC doesnt recongize them in any form at all. MAC is just worried about ripping people off for there money and not caring for thre ALUMNI or current students.. TO THE CURRENT STUDENTS AND MOSTLY FOOTBALL PLAYERS GET OUT WHILE YOU CAN AND GO PLAY FOR A BETTER SCHOOL THAN MAC #9 IS RIGHT THAT PLACE IS GOING DOWN HILL **** MAC... TO the old AD thats pretty ****ed up that you come in and fire all the coaches the trainer and the laudry staff now who is going to wash the clothes haha anywayz you fired a good coach in BRANDON MCCray the trainer did suck i see that but you came in and tore up a hell of a football program, no u left because u saw how bad of a job you did i am disgusted on how MAC handled all of this but wait thats MAC for u... MAC needs to hire the right presdent to get that place back on track...#9 when u get back i will teach u how to fish u see all the big ones i have been catching haha.. but somebody please help MAC.... the new coach at mac should of never taken that job there is too much baggage to come with that postion.. GOOD LUCK MAC next year i predict a 0-10 season wow <MAC has gone down hill thats embarrsing FIX MY DAMN RECORDS MAC WHAT THE ****     

[mac_5_seven]

Amen Reeno, Mac has gone in the crapper.  Funny though, I seem to still get the, "be a good alumnus and give us money" letters every month or so.  My guess is that in another couple of years Mac will be known as the West Central Illinois Beauty College....

[Reeno10]

i still get those letters too, and i gave them my money when i went there and i am being a good alumni by telling everyone to get out while they can...If they treated the seniors this year with respect and didnt do what they did to coach McCray i would maybe consider giving them money but hell no that place isnt worth it.. im glad that i played football there and met the people i met i will remeber that becaue i have 2 fat rings on my hand but the school itself is a **** hole..............

[Gomer Pyle]

Amen Reeno, Mac has gone in the crapper.  Funny though, I seem to still get the, "be a good alumnus and give us money" letters every month or so.  My guess is that in another couple of years Mac will be known as the West Central Illinois Beauty College....

   Here`s a suggestion.
     The next time you get a "request " for money tell them you will when
    they get Their football site cleaned up................all information posted
     and current.
    Maybe a write in from all the football players (25 years worth)  asking the simple question, why can`t you get this straightened out? 
   Numbers can get the Admin at Mac Murray asking that same question to
    those responsible. 
    When anyone is entrusted as the steward of History of a program they should show respect for those football players past and present.
   Not come out of the box like a bull in a China shop with plans that never
  materialize, offer lame excuses when questions are asked, point fingers
  and under whose watch 25 years of Football history was deleted, with no back-up.
   To be fair about the Deleted history she did say it was.....to provide uniformity. HUH !  Forget that it`s a part of past and present players accomplishments going back in some cases 25 years.  They need the space??
  Nobody was held accountable. Nothing has been done to correct the issue an the Mac Sports site looks the same.
   Until The Admin at MacMurray steps in an directs action be taken Now.   
   it will be business as usual.
    Muck up the site and get a pay-check.
   Players records are for all to see and appreciate for as long as records are kept  so why then can one person  push a button and they are lost forever in cyberspace and nobody cares!    Shamefull
   
   
   
   
     

[formerd3db]

Quick question for you Mac guys.  Doesn't anyone have a "hard copy" of the MAC football records that they perhaps printed off from the website?  Or, is there not a copy of a football game program or pre-season publication that may have that info in it; or even the school library?  I can't imagine that one of your former MAC players somewhere, from someyear, doesn't have this to help retrieve the info.  I hope so, otherwise it will be a big job to re-accumulate and collect that date - not impossible, however, but will be a tedious task.  Good luck and I hope that info is able to be re-aquired somehow, someway.  Keep us posted.

[formerd3db]

Mac guys:
If you log on to Mac's football page of their athletic site, the program's history/stats are still listed with the exception of the year-by-year results.  I would suggest printing off a hard copy of what is currently posted; then if the school or some former player does not have the year-by-year scores somewhere, then someone can reconstruct the season results for each year I would think by consulting the league's official records (check with the league publicist) and/or programs/season pre-views from other league teams.  Certainly Pat's D3fb.com site has results back 6-7 years so that gives someone about 18 years (out of the 24-25) to do, which is at least a little easier than trying to reconstruct all 25 seasons.  Just some suggestions - again best of luck.  I am confident you'll get the info eventually.

[Pat Coleman]

This isn't what they're talking about, though, formerd3db. This is what they're talking about:

people work hard to break records and when they finally do MAC doesnt recongize them in any form at all.

The individual records page does indeed appear to be deleted. I spent a little time looking for it in Archive.org and came up empty, though I did not search every possible archived date.

[Gomer Pyle]

This isn't what they're talking about, though, formerd3db. This is what they're talking about:

people work hard to break records and when they finally do MAC doesnt recongize them in any form at all.

The individual records page does indeed appear to be deleted. I spent a little time looking for it in Archive.org and came up empty, though I did not search every possible archived date.

  Pat:
     You are correct about the " Football RECORD Book" section of the Mac Football site  being deleted
     .   Their site (football) only lists "Yearly" Records at this time. Plus other stuff unrelated to individual performances. 
     The previous SID, e-mailed me on 9/22/06 ref :missing History Book data.  His comment was, "At some point in time the page was  deleted from our website as well as our server."  They have/had no back-up! 
  It was pointed out to The school President, in hopes he would tell sombody to get on the ball and get this corrected .......now! Nope. He`s
   going to retire. The Athletic Dir was informed in hopes he would see the problem and take action. Nope. He`s gone. The (2 time) SID/Softball Coach was asked repeatly to assist in correcting the problem. Nope. The comment made was, " All information is placed on and taken off by the college webmistress, not myself." She did say, however, " Thus, some information
  may have been dropped from the prior site."
   25 years of MacMurray Football History "dropped" ? As the steward of
   something important  to a lot of guys over many years and that`s it?
    Dropped! 
   The previous SID (not re-hired) who knew of the deletion and the many problems on the FB site said," my interns will soon begin the process revising our record books..........." Interns? MacMurray has very cavalier  in their handling of  records that many a player is duly proud of. 
   To this date nothing has been done by MacMurray to correct this major
   blunder!
   
  Pat: Thanks for taking an interest.

 

   
 
     
   
   

         

[Gomer Pyle]

Formerd3db:
     I`ve been working on the Record book issue and other problems
     for almost 3 years and to date..................nothing. Some of their comments are , I`ll pass it on, or i`ll look into it, or They appoint a new SID
    and the process starts all over again. Bottom line is, nobody at Mac
     seems to have the skills or authority to get-er-done! Just look at the
    time line and no results.
     Plus i`ve kept all my e-mails, coming and going. Nothing like "back-up."
    MacMurray`s had (i) one really good, competent, up to the minute SID
    by the name of Bostwick. 
    Under his watch everything was up to date.......period. Sadly he left to do high school and radio stuff.
    Some D-3 schools have great Football web sites. Sadly, MacMurray is not one of them! 
   

[formerd3db]

Formerd3db:
     I`ve been working on the Record book issue and other problems
     for almost 3 years and to date..................nothing. Some of their comments are , I`ll pass it on, or i`ll look into it, or They appoint a new SID
    and the process starts all over again. Bottom line is, nobody at Mac
     seems to have the skills or authority to get-er-done! Just look at the
    time line and no results.
     Plus i`ve kept all my e-mails, coming and going. Nothing like "back-up."
    MacMurray`s had (i) one really good, competent, up to the minute SID
    by the name of Bostwick. 
    Under his watch everything was up to date.......period. Sadly he left to do high school and radio stuff.
    Some D-3 schools have great Football web sites. Sadly, MacMurray is not one of them! 
   

This isn't what they're talking about, though, formerd3db. This is what they're talking about:

people work hard to break records and when they finally do MAC doesnt recongize them in any form at all.

The individual records page does indeed appear to be deleted. I spent a little time looking for it in Archive.org and came up empty, though I did not search every possible archived date.

  Pat:
     You are correct about the " Football RECORD Book" section of the Mac Football site  being deleted
     .   Their site (football) only lists "Yearly" Records at this time. Plus other stuff unrelated to individual performances. 
     The previous SID, e-mailed me on 9/22/06 ref :missing History Book data.  His comment was, "At some point in time the page was  deleted from our website as well as our server."  They have/had no back-up! 
  It was pointed out to The school President, in hopes he would tell sombody to get on the ball and get this corrected .......now! Nope. He`s
   going to retire. The Athletic Dir was informed in hopes he would see the problem and take action. Nope. He`s gone. The (2 time) SID/Softball Coach was asked repeatly to assist in correcting the problem. Nope. The comment made was, " All information is placed on and taken off by the college webmistress, not myself." She did say, however, " Thus, some information
  may have been dropped from the prior site."
   25 years of MacMurray Football History "dropped" ? As the steward of
   something important  to a lot of guys over many years and that`s it?
    Dropped! 
   The previous SID (not re-hired) who knew of the deletion and the many problems on the FB site said," my interns will soon begin the process revising our record books..........." Interns? MacMurray has very cavalier  in their handling of  records that many a player is duly proud of. 
   To this date nothing has been done by MacMurray to correct this major
   blunder!
  
  Pat: Thanks for taking an interest.

 

  
 
    
  
   

        

Guys, I was just trying to be helpful and also mention what I saw.  I was referring to the fact that there was still some "records" listed on the website - I realize that the year-to-year results and career results were missing (essentially that is what I posted).  As can be seen and as of today, the following are listed on the MAC website:

Single Season records (includes names and stats of these)\
Letterwinners - this was up on the site yesterday, however, in not listed as of today, there is now a statement that this is being worked on/updated and inviting former letterwinnders to email in to make sure they are included in the list
Highlanders in Pro Football (still listed)
Award Winners (still listed and goes back to 1989 inclusive)

Gomer, I'm glad you are working on the remaining career and year-by-year results/records and hopefully that can be restored.  Again, good luck and keep us posted.

formerd3db

[Pat Coleman]

Is this page what you guys were looking for?
http://www.gomachighlanders.com/m_football_history_singleseason.asp