FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference

[Ralph Turner]

Welcome, drucker.  I like the transparency.  +1.

We look forward to good informative posting coming from you.  Conscientious fans who post with integrity are always welcome.  I wish the best for MacMurray.  I was unable to find endowment or budget data, nor data from the Accreditation, but the surface appearance looks like the school has a long hard road ahead of it.

I hope that the school can rebuild its athletic department.

The MacMurray Tennis program got the first ever NCAA D-III Death Penalty in 2005.

[Gomer Pyle]

Ralph Turner:
    The tennis Program fiasco and the NCAA "Got-cha Moment" at MacMurray College is old news but still worth noting. So was the speed at which the "in-fraction" was removed from their web-site. one nano second.
    They`ve lost/fired/didn`t re-new contracts on a lot of people(coaches,AD,etc) in the Athletic Dept. of late plus their choice of SID`s,
   the ones responsible for all  stats, records and other information, has been a failure . Kind of looks like they (SID`s) can`t multi-task.
   Bottom line is the players who attend/attended MacMurray, over the past several years have been short-changed on a lot of issues.
   There is hope however as MacMurray now has a new President.
   We can only hope she`s a sports fan and under her watch these kind of
   non-performing personnel will be weeded out!
     
       

[Reddevilpride]

First, I hope that everyone is having an excellent summer, and I cannot wait for the upcoming season.  Next, I would like to stand up for all of the past and present Eureka college players.   Eureka is a place where any young man who has the heart and desire to play college football will have their chance.  Furthermore, up until these last two seasons it has always been a program which has been very competitive w/the other IBFC teams (1999 Aurora 17- 16 Aurora gets a phantom pass interference call on 4th down to keep their final drive alive, 2002 MacMurray 7-0 Eureka had a TD robbed from them which would have given them a chance to win the game, CUW 2004 7-6).  However, with numbers down the last two years it has been difficult for them to compete.   Consequently, I believe that this is the year they return to that competitive status.  I saw them play towards the end of the year last year, 19 of their 22 starters were Freshman, Sophomores, and they had a freshman QB who is quite possibly going to be a break out star.   Now before all you naysayers go and get your feathers ruffled. I am not saying Eureka is going to win a conference championship, but look out for them to surprise a team or two next year.   Lastly, as a comment I heard Dan Sullivan is on the hot seat @ Eureka; has anyone else heard the same?

[old 40]

Eureka has played some teams very tough and has gotten beaten bad out by others. If they can get numbers and some athletes, then they can be up to the task of knocking someone off. I think Coach Sullivan needs 5 years to see if the numbers can get to near 100 players with good athletes especially in the skill positions. The administration needs to be very supportative in these next two years. I  hope in this, the last year of the IBFC some good things happen in Eureka, CUC and MacMurray.

[drucker]

Ya pat Mac is in for a long road. Its going to be tough for them. They will play to their ability and who knows upsets do happen.

And the old AD left to a better job for I believe it was ASU, better pay and thats where he is from so who wouldnt take the position. And the SID was fired, he was the baseball coach, now there was a rumor on campus tha the had gone $10,000 over budget. I dont know if this was true or not but Mac is wanting the coaches to teach and I dont know if he had his masters degree.

So Mac is going to be at the bottom but hopefully they suprise a lot of teams, maybe finshing with a winning record. I just know that I will be there for every home game to cheer them on, and try to get to a few away games. I will always cheer for mac even when im on my death bed.

[Gomer Pyle]

Reddevilpride:
     Eureka is the one of the smallest if not the smallest college playing
     football in D-3. listed enrollment of 498.
     While they show up every game day and play to their collective talent
     and it has been noted," on occasion surprise people." The fact remains
      Eureka is 14-66 over-all since 1999.
      School size, helps..  or hunts in Eureka`s case. IMO.
     I`ve always respected the players at Eureka for their tenacity and
     "Dam(N) the torpedo`s, full speed" ahead approach to the game of 
     football.
      Sorry to say they just don`t have the over-all talent to be successful
       on a regular basis.
     As you point out the returning players show promise.  Eureka has
        pretty much been a step-child in the IBC , I hope your right.
      Her`s a prediction,  Eureka adds to MacMurray`s woes and gets     
      the "W."
      Good luck to the Red Devils.
     

[drucker]

So you all think Mac will only get one win this year? I dont see that happening, I see two-three wins. I will be hoping for more but isnt it always that when a new coach comes in the team takes a few years to get back on track. I know there are the occassions. But I am hoping these seniors do some good because they came in almost conference champs their freshman year. Would have happened if the fullback wouldnt have fumbled in the endzone. So I would like to seee them go out with a good season.

[catch22]

David Rucker; who was on that team when they almost won conference?
Pleas refresh my memory! What year were you talking about.

[Gomer Pyle]

Rrucker:
   You said in part,"...............they came in almost conference champs their freshman year." Talking about this years seniors....2007.
   So the guys you are talking about were freshman in 2004.
   MacMurray that year(2004) was 7-3 over-all and 4-3 in conference.
   Mac came in 4th in conference  in 2004.
   4th is not "almost conference champs" as stated by you.
   If you miss spoke that happens. If you still think they (Mac)  were almost
   conference champs in 2004 please explain how you came to that 
    conclusion. 
  You`ll find "facts" carry all the weight on this forum. Conjecture, is always good fill in but crumbles  when going head to head with .........facts.
   

[drucker]

That would have been Anthony B. senior year. Coach Rogers last year.

Chris flaggs Waterstraat those guys were freshman that year.

Remember at CUW when cooper fumbled in the endzone or at the 1 yard line. That was the year we almost won the conference becaus we lost to AU LC CUW 7-3.

[drucker]

Sorry I know if we would have beaten CUW and lost the other two we would have had the best overall conference record and won the title. There was a three way tie for first place. If Mac had one that game or one against the other two then Mac would have been champs. But we didnt ohwell.

[Gomer Pyle]

Sorry I know if we would have beaten CUW and lost the other two we would have had the best overall conference record and won the title. There was a three way tie for first place. If Mac had one that game or one against the other two then Mac would have been champs. But we didnt ohwell.

  I see where your coming from but let me add this.
   Mac beats Con,W  leaving them both at 5-2
   LC  is still 6-1 as is Aurora.
   So,  It looks like this: 
            LC......6-1
      Aurora......6-1
        Mac........5-2
       Con W....5-2 
  looks to me like 3rd place now instead of 4th.
  If you work enough combinations/ possible out comes, you can say what you did.  That`s what I mean about conjecture. In your case/ rational
     Mac lost by a nose but in real time they (Mac) were not good against the top 3 that year.  Hence 4-3 in conference play.
    Although the game against Con,W  was a duzzy. #10(Ballerino) had 3 TD`s and kept Mac in the running but the "O" line that year stunk up the place. AS they did all year. 
   I might add that Ballerino was selected for the "Team of the Week" in
    Div-3( that`s about 220 teams total) for his supper game against a really good Con,W team.
   Sounds like you go to Mac..........enjoy your time.
   
     
     

[drucker]

Your right I dont remember how it would have worked out, it was a long time ago.

I also would like to say that the O-line was not that bad, I think Pete almost racked up 1500 rushing yards, I think he was a few short. I dont consider that a terrible oline. Yes pete ran hard and was an amazing back but also the line had to give him some of those holes. Now it wasnt the line that ballinger and lee ran behind but Pete is now the all time leading rusher at mac. With terrible lineman blocking for him? I guess pete just ran for all those yards with no help.

[Genius]

Reddevilpride,

I agree that Eureka is getting better. Looks like they turned over the staff so I don't know if that is good or bad. Their QB is the best young qb in the league. He can run and pass. that have some decent RBs but they had a huge loss with #34 graduating. Also, they have the slowest defense in the conference with a Nose tackle at middle LB. They won't stop many people until they get more athletic on defense.

[Fartcus Smellwood]

I have been reading through some predictions of what is going to happen this upcoming fall and I don't understand why everyone thinks BU is going to be such a great team. At best, they are a mediocre team with a lot to do still. Isn't BU still young and how did their recruiting go this year?

Is there anyone on this forum that knows much about the program and what they have been doing in the offseason because as far as I see it I do not see them being in the the top 3-4 teams. Their offense is simple to figure out by using power and play action most of the time. Their defense is average. I don't see them beating Aurora or CUW and being in a dogfight with GC, Lakeland and CUC.

Also, I have respect for Eureka because those guys do come out and bust their ass all the time...there seems to be some personel problems on the defensive side of the ball and they have a very weak and very slow defensive line. Only time will tell come August-November....predictions are predictions and everyone has their own and I am definately not trying to bash anyones predictions, just looking for answers. And for one of my last predictions, CUW will not be champions in the last year of the IBFC