FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference

[Gregory Sager]

Based on the fact that you have a North Park avatar, I'm not sure if I should take you seriously. But, for argument's sake, I will just this one time.

So my posts are of dubious legitimacy because my alma mater has a lousy football team? Brilliant! Hey, alert the media that, because their NFL teams stink, football fans in Atlanta, Cleveland, and Oakland are therefore ignorant and their opinions about football should not be taken seriously.

Bravo, AYK! You're off and running in your attempt to keep your majestic track record in rhetorical logic intact!

If you took reading in first grade

I took naptime, fingerpainting, and I'm A Little Teapot 101. Reading was an elective course that was not required for my first-grade major.

you would know that I never said Carthage was incapable of beating CUW and Lakeland.

True. You never said that directly. But you did say that North Central couldn't beat the Falcons or the Muskies, and as Mr. Ypsi pointed out, Carthage, who beat Lakeland on Saturday, was picked in the CCIW coaches poll to finish below NCC -- a sentiment that seems to be echoed by everyone in the CCIW room except for a couple of holdout Carthage loyalists. Yes, it's entirely possible that the Red Men could beat and/or finish ahead of the Cardinals this season, but at this point the consensus of the unbiased is that NCC has the better team. So, if the greater CCIW team is incapable of beating CUW or Lakeland, why would the lesser CCIW team be able to do so?

Here are your own words on the subject, from your post at 7:22 pm on Wednesday (post #3568):

Also, Elmhurst or NCC would not win the IBC. They would have to beat Conc-Wisc and Lakeland, which wouldn't happen.

Y'see, son, your basic problem with making foolish statements on this website is that everything's archived.  All we have to do is click back a few pages and then call you on it. And attempting to cover your mistakes with tired gibes about the reading ability of others ain't gonna suddenly make those mistakes smell like a rose.

With regards to the scores, no, I don't study D3 football. I just joined the site two days ago. I wasn't looking up scores.

At least on this particular subject your statements are consistent. Problem is, they're consistently silly. Finding out the scores of the league you purportedly follow and of which you style yourself an expert is "studying"? "No, Mom, I can't take out the garbage. I have to turn on ESPN and read the ticker at the bottom of the screen, because I'm studying to be a sports fan!"

For crying out loud, man, the scores and standings of the IBC were posted in this room by Gomer Pyle and others on Saturday and again on Sunday morning. It's on page 236. Try to keep up, willya? I mean, if it's not too much trouble or anything, if you're going to comment upon this league could you at least "study" who wins and who loses each week as we go along?

So North Central has beaten them in two down years? Big deal. North Central and Lakeland have both been more successful over the course of history.

And how do you know that this season and last have been down years for CUW and Lakeland? (I'm going to climb out on a limb and take it that you meant "CUW" where you typed "North Central" for the second time in that quote above. Otherwise, if you insist that in fact North Central has been more successful than North Central over the course of history, Mugsy's poor wife might find his bloody corpse draped across his smashed monitor.) You weren't even aware of last year's playoff result! More to the point, you haven't been following the league this year, remember? If you don't, let me jog your memory with a quote of yours from this same post:

I'm not gonna lie, I haven't followed the IBC this year at all this year.

And yet you're qualified to determine who is down and who isn't in this season that you haven't been following. You're like some sort of savant of self-contradiction. It's almost Zen-like. What is the sound of one poster backpedaling?

Feel free to get off the guru's you know what while you're at it, you're doing it in PDA form.

Uh huh. Never mind the numerous times that Pat and I have spent days arguing on this site over one topic or another during the ten years that I've posted here and on d3hoops.com, because you've been here for a whole 48 hours now and you're thus the expert on everything and everybody on this site. Since I'm disagreeing with you and agreeing with Pat, it obviously means that rather than being sincere in my argument I am merely trying to curry favor with Pat for ... what? My own wing in the Hall of Fame? Pat, are you building one of those?

By my count, your Grade A goofball comments have caused six people besides me to call you out in this room since you showed up this week. Are all seven of us on each other's you-know-whats, and is that even possible? Uh, never mind ... I don't really want to know the answer to that.

So you joined the site two days ago? BIG DEAL. No one cares, because you're spouting out alot of useless garbage, and you don't back it up with anything factual.  All the stats, conference records are at you finger tips on this site. Top 25s, conference records, links to schools if you want to go hardcore and look up stats of individual players...

It takes 15 minutes to actually take a second and post something meaningful.

Exactly. And that may provide the best nugget of comedy gold of all in this whole affair. AYK's campaign to take on Pat Coleman, Evil Supergenius, and vanquish him once and for all for sullying the good name of the Hewlett-Packard All-American list and for various other misdeeds, is based upon a bunch of six-to-eight-year-old factoids about Benedictine defensive players. As you said, NCC_alum62, this site has a wealth of information on it; anything you need to find out about D3 football that is available on the web can either be found on this site or from a link provided by this site. And yet the facts that have tripped up AYK's campaign to rebut you and me and BUfan and everyone else questioning his authority -- the fact that Carthage beat Lakeland and NCC beat CUW last Saturday, and the fact that NCC beat CUW in the opening round of last season's NCAA playoffs -- aren't matters of obscure trivia that have to be dug up with a 15-minute search of this site or of linked school and conference sites. They're common knowledge to anyone who even casually follows the IBC.

"Both teams have had down years the past two years (for their program's standards). If you follow the IBC, you would know that" -AYK

Um, I'm pretty sure the folks that are responding to you have, Lakeland yes went 5-5 last year, but went 5-2 in the IBC tied for 2nd, CUW went 10-1 (10-0 in regular season) how is that not the exact oppositte of a down year, expecially given the IBC's play-off record.

Well, yeah. It is the exact opposite of a down year ... unless you're in AYK World, in which case a 5-2 second-place finish and a 10-1 league championship are, in fact, down years ... unless you didn't follow the league at all that year and were thus not in a position to judge any team's downness or upness, in which case ...

The heck with it. Maybe I'll follow Mugsy's cue and bang my head against the monitor to see if it helps AYK's posts make more sense.

[Pat Coleman]

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[Gomer Pyle]

I don't think it was piling on. When we wrote those posts, your post said something different than what it says now.

   I WAS JUST KIDDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I even used  the little yellow icon to express that.
   Remember , you were the one who suggested I use the "icons"  so people could better understand my motive.  I did and now this.
   That being said.........................I was kidding.        Kidding,
   As far as changing my posts. Yes I did. after you corrected me
    My comments did not seem to apply, so I  changed my take.  I believe  I have every right to change/correct  my posts.
    If that is the wrong assumption, please let me know and I`ll stand corrected. 
    I hope my explainations clarify any and all mis-understandings. 
    I was kidding.  
   
                         
   

[Gomer Pyle]

Cudud:
           "  You don`t agree with my reasoning."  You certainly don`t have to apologize for that.  Looks like my point was lost in translation.     
      Mensa: The flat stone forming the top of the alter in a RomanCatholic church.
      Oops, you mean...MENSA.   

[old 40]

Baseman201

My picks and Timewilltell's picks are on page 238.

Good Luck to your team this week.

[Gomer Pyle]

Gregory sager:
  Ref your post # 3617.   Always nice to see/read  a post that in response
   to another is fair and balanced.  Point..........counter point. 
   But I`m afraid that when dealing with some logic and reason goes out the window to replaced by shot-gun antics and statements that have no validity.   
   I`m sure that`s not news to you as your been around for some time.
   Enjoyed your comments.

[Mugsy]

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Oh my gosh... how did the web cam of my evening hit the net so fast?

[Mugsy]

The heck with it. Maybe I'll follow Mugsy's cue and bang my head against the monitor to see if it helps AYK's posts make more sense.

Wow... Mr. Sager,  that has to be one of the more entertaining posts I have read in a long time. Very nice.

[Gomer Pyle]

Big_Uns:
      All the stats I put in my post were from, The  College Football Data Wharehouse .  Being the messenger of those stats it looks like I take the hit.  Be gentle.
   I looked at the Lakeland site but could not "find" the facts-figures you supplied.  Key word being "I." 
   You mentioned the , College Football Media Guide.  If that was your source and it appears it was, how do I get a look-see ?   
   Thanks for the feed back.
   

[FormerCard]

Very well thought out Mr. Sager

[NCC_alum62]

The heck with it. Maybe I'll follow Mugsy's cue and bang my head against the monitor to see if it helps AYK's posts make more sense.

Wow... Mr. Sager,  that has to be one of the more entertaining posts I have read in a long time. Very nice.

People in my office are looking at me like I'm insane because I'm laughing so hard.

Wow, AYK.  You've managed to come off as the biggest azz of all.

"Based on the fact that you have a North Park avatar, I'm not sure if I should take you seriously. But, for argument's sake, I will just this one time." -AYK

First you attack Gregory Sager, one of the most respected posters on D3sports.com, not a good move.  He can tear you to pieces in a literary context.  I'm not even joking he's like superman with a thesaurus. :-)

I warned him...didn't I warn him?  Damn Greg that post was awesome.  Where did you get your education...wait wait let me guess..was it North Park?  I mean because I thought North Park people were obviously terrible at composing sentences and whatnot...I mean because they have a bad football team...or something like that. I read something somewhere 

+K for Greg everyday for the rest of the month, I haven't had this much fun on the board in a while

[Comet 14]

Wow Greg that was impressive. I even think it might have shut him up. On second thought he probably hasn't found anyone to read it to him yet.

[cudub]

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Im not here to be one of those guys who starts fights, but i HAVE read the entire discussion, as i have been reading this board for two years.  And your right i have only posted 4 times, but it doesnt take a member of MENSA to figure out how to have a logical online discussion.  I apologize for sounding like an ass (i guess) in that other post, but all im saying is i really do not agree with your reasoning.
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If your going to try to be a smart ass, actually read the post it says MENSA.  I have a strong desire to just talk mad Sh** to you at the moment, but im going to refrain because i know this board is not what thats about.  But in the future, if your trying to be a witty little man, at least try to do it properly?  Thanks.

[usee]

Greg,

some of your best work. I must now ask, however, a question you have presented many times in this situation: "when will we all stop responding to trolls?"

[Big_Uns]

Big_Uns:
      All the stats I put in my post were from, The  College Football Data Wharehouse .  Being the messenger of those stats it looks like I take the hit.  Be gentle.
   I looked at the Lakeland site but could not "find" the facts-figures you supplied.  Key word being "I." 
   You mentioned the , College Football Media Guide.  If that was your source and it appears it was, how do I get a look-see ?   
   Thanks for the feed back.
   

Go to a Lakeland home game and bring a couple bucks along, I'm not sure how much they are, if they even cost anything. At this time, Lakeland does not supply a PDF on the athletics' website of the media guides.