FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference

[NCC_alum62]

NCC Alum

I actually was a freshemn in that game u speak of in 2002 where we had 2 d-tackles go down with arm injuries.  Very odd for sure.  And the spirit pack thing was just a basic example and i may very well be wrong i have no concrete proof.,  Just my educated guess.   And as i said before he was a very good assistant like you pointed out as well.  But perhaps the responsibilities of a head coach arent for everyone, b/c he is also doing a good job with the oline at chicago.

TruCountry, i disagree that GC is a team to beat I think it is very agreeable to say its on Lakeland or Conc Wis.  I wouldnt included Aurora lately, as in the last 2 seasons because of the signficant drop off.  I truly think its LC, Conc Wis at the top, GC and AU the next 2 followed by BU and Mac, then CUC and EC.  Im not saying this is how they will finish the conf. but just an average rating of the last 2-3 seasons.  But a real positive is about 5-6 years ago, GC was in the lower half, about 6 or 7 in conf.  They have made a very respectable climb.


LC over GC
BU over CUC
CUW over EC
AU over MC

by all means I think you are right.  Mitchell is a good coach but as far as runnning a college football program maybe he doesn't have all of the necessary skillsets.  When DeGeorge was the head coach at NCC we stayed in the smallest most uncomfortable dorms during football camp, there was no freshmen study session , the "spirit packs" were a T-Shirt (thats it), and the practice gear a joke.

What I was meaning before wasn't trying to cut you down, I was only with Mitchell for one year as a backup o-lineman my freshman year, I was saying that some coaches are just better at that extra stuff other than the weekly game plan, motivation, leadership.  I've seen coaches who are bad with money/spirit packs, etc.  I've seen crooked stuff happen as well.  Just from knowing Mitchell I would say he more than likely chose a poor supplier or something like that.  NCC used to be the same way, they brought in a sports clothing guy to sell us Sweatshirts/jackets/hats and the prices were high to be honest.

Its also about success, NCC is winning, so suppliers are calling Thorne to offer the program stuff at a discount.  We got shipments of gloves and Cleats for cheap when we had winnning seasons, now after thier first CCIW title they're sponsered by New Balance who is just entering the relm of football uniforms and stuff.  The jerseys are a bit plain, but they look good...the point is BU was not a winning football team (and still isn't right now) so suppliers are not going to cut any coach a break on costs, the rich get richer and the little guy always has to pay more.

[Timewilltell]

Tru- I'm not knocking GC. They are heading in the right direction. Respect and tradition are earned. By beating AU and the two close games with CUW and LC, I can guarentee earned them CUW and LC respect. And if/when they follow that up this year will add to their program. The next two weeks will prove alo t for them as the have LC at home this week and AU on the road next week. Good luck to all, and be safe.

[old 40]

Gomer;

I agree with you that this weeks game between GC and LC will be important. Whoever wins will get their engine stoked. Going into this game Greenville has to be a favorite because it is at Greenville, Lakeland is 0-3 and they may have the best QB in the league. However, I would not count out Lakeland despite being 0-3. 

IMO, the conference has re-align a bit. CUW, LC, GC and AU are the top tier teams. CUC is getting there but has to prove by beating  some of the top tier teams. Benedictine is trying also but will take some time to get their. I think in the next two years both of those schools can be in the top tier of the new league.

I am glad that Greenville has made the leap because it makes the better teams better, if that makes sense. They will be the top team in their new league SLIAC. IMO, there is nothing better than ,each week ,two teams battling it out in close games and not blow outs. In the past there was only 1 or 2 close games each year in the league. The more good teams the better the weekly games. This gives us great football to watch.

Good Luck to everyones team this week. The beginning of the end of the IBFC.

Who's going to what games?

[FatalImpact]

Aurora vs MAC: AU wins 28-14

Wow Tru you were way off   AU 47  -   Mac 0

[SCARED KITTY]

Lakeland wins 36-21

[Cougswillwin]

Concordia defeats Benedictine 21-10.

Confidence Baseman.

[Fartcus Smellwood]

Yeah Baseman, CONFIDENCE!!!! I think there was one person on this board that had the Cougs winning in a close margin. I took a leave from the board because I felt I was giving the Cougs bad luck but I probably won't post again for awhile....COUGS WIN!!!! 1-0 in conference...Eureka next...I will continue to read.

[Falcon77]

CUW 70 Eureka 0. Great game to be at, if your a Falcon. Eureka never had a chance. Not a very good Football team.
CUW played great. I can't wait to see what the the rest of the conference has to offer.

[Gomer Pyle]

   BU-10    Con U, C-21. I know the Believers are a happy bunch.
   LC-36     GC-21.     Looks like LC still has it. 
   Eureka-0   Con,W- 70.  I give Eureka much credit. They showed up, took their lumps and will move on.
   AU-47  Mac-0.    The arguement has been made by some that Mac is mostly a freshmen team. Young to say the least. It`s not a stretch for Mac to go 0-10 this season, IMO.
   As games went this past saturday only LC  had any sort of challenge.
   AU and CU-W were way to strong for their foes. 
   BU and CU-C, the out come might have surprised some.  A good game
   none the less. 
   CU-C should get at least 2 more wins. BU as well.

[Gomer Pyle]

Old 40:
    If past conference history holds Greenville is almost out of the running.
    Usually (1) loss gets you at best second place or tied.
   The exception to that was in 2004 when 3 teams tied for 1st.
    That`a always been a problem in the IBFC, little or no parity. I really though GC was going to do it this year as the last couple of years they`vew been showing real signs of becoming a serious contender.
   I know it`s early in conference play and a lot can still happen but I`ll still go with the.........." one and done "  theory.  Just my opinion.   
   

[fishguy]

The Lakeland-Greenville game was pretty lopsided. Lakeland's D did a great job of containing Greenville's QB. He did a few things here and there but Lakeland never let him get a big play. Lakeland's o line was awesome and the Muskies finally got their running game going and a freshman running back had a nice day. Wilk and his receivers were clicking and he threw for 4 tds (the last one was a deflection in the end zone, but it still counts) and he rushed for their other score. If greenville is as good as advertised (the coaches picked them to finish second in the league, and d3football picked them to win it), then the team to beat is Lakeland.

[Are you Kidding]

Benedictine loses to Concordia Chicago 21-10.

So who is going to side with Jon Cooper now? He's lost to the worst team in the IBC (with the exception of Eureka). It doesn't get much worse than this. "Oh he's still building his team." Not an excuse. He's in year 3.

"Oh but NCC and Elmhurst are the #1 and #2 teams in the nation" excuse doesn't work anymore. They lost by 2 scores to a TERRIBLE team. They are also terrible.

What does Jon Cooper do all week? He does not gameplan. What does Jon Cooper do all offseason? He does not recruit good players. He's pathetic. He should be fired, as I've said all along.

If Murray and Mitchell lost their jobs for poor performance, Cooper should've been fired after yesterday's game.

Cooper came into Benedictine with an attitude. He knocked Benedictine's past teams by saying this is the "new" Benedictine" and that the "old" Benedictine had to go, the "old" Benedictine was bad, blah blah blah. Guess what? The old Benedictine was a lot better than when he came. If you're going to come into a school acting like some big shot who is going to change things, then change them...for the better, not for the worse. I'm just tired of people siding with Cooper when he has done noting but fire good coaches to bring in "his" guys, lose games, and recruit a bunch of scrubs. It's time for him to be fired or retire on his own.

Jon Cooper is proving why Aurora never hired him as a head coach. There's a reason he was an assistant for almost 20 years. It's showing right now.

Benedictine will go 1-9, maybe 2-8. That is not progress.

Benedictine administration, if you're reading this, start accepting applications, because this ship is sinking.

[pg04]

Sounds like you are grinding that ax pretty hard. 

[79jaybird]

Areyou kidding- seems like either a disgruntled father, player, a former coach, perhaps somebody who was passed over for the Benedictine job.
I don't look at the Benedictine/CUC game as a "Whoa the Eagles lost" rather "Hey Concordia's program is starting to put together some wins." Give Coach Pries and the Cougars some credit.  It was not that long ago CUC was 1-9, 2-7 etc. and with the new regime they have started to put together more wins.  They may not be high-octane teams, but you have to start somewhere.

I still think it is too early to point the finger at Jon Cooper and cry for a new coach.
At Elmhurst, Tom Journell went 4-6 in his first year.  Did we call for his axe? No of course not.  He has put together 6-4 (could easily have been 7-3) campaigns and slowly the EC program is getting better.

Again, it's not 100% coaching, the players have to execute on the field and make plays also.

[old 40]

Gomer;

Good assesment of the IBFC.

I was at the GC-LC game. GC has some athletes and played hard. I think their non-conference schedule may have hurt them. The QB is very good if you cannot contain him. LC had too much quickness on defense for them. GC did not see that against Blackburn and Taylor. I saw GC against AU last year and they lost some great athletes (LB). They were not able to replace them with the same quality and thats not a nock on their replacements. I think GC will do very well in conference play, IMO top 3. GC defensive front seven is athletic and pretty good.

IMO, CUW will be hard to beat. I saw their scrimmage against Carthage and their drop off in talent was not much, except at RB. WR and LB. For anyone in the league who wants to be the champ you have to beat the champ.

If Lakeland can get their 4 injured starters back, they did not play against Greenville, it will certainly help them in the next 6 games. There will be no give me's. No one likes the fish and everyone wants to stick it to them. It will be very interesting.

I would watch out for AU also, their defense is good and they can play with anyone. CUC is building and they can be dangerous if you overlook them and count them as a win, they will get you. Looks like their game with Benedictine was a good one for the Cougars. I did not see any stats so I have no idea of how the game went.

Gomer, I await your picks for next week. I hope your team did well.