FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference

[FMR IBFC Champ]

That video and that attitude are EXACTLY why people on this board, and people around the conference talk crap about macmurray.  You can talk all you want about how the grades are improving and the institution is becoming better, and that is all tremendous, because your right at this level the game is not the students entire life, they are there to get an education.  But this is a football message board where football issues are discussed (usually), and when it comes to Highlanders football.....Well I can not respect that program or its coaches until they can prove themselves worthy of that respect.

lets be clear on why people talk crap about any school on this board.  They do it when teams are down. Nobody ever said anything like this when Mac was dominating the conference(or any other team when their winning). Its easy to point the finger when your school is winning and another school is not.  You have a point with the video(if it was intentional, could have been protecting himself, who knows) But the fact of the matter is people were talking crap about Mac before this video came out. Besides who needs respect from CUW fans. Do you not have more to focus on or to  play for than a video from a CUW vs. Mac game?  Check your history of your players and coaches character (cedric simmons) before you call someone else out.  Just worry about winning the IBFC, and attempting to look respectable in the post-season, or your season was waste like any other team from the IBFC. Do something about that. Worry about getting respect from outside this conference before giving repsect to Mac.  Face reality, your bashing and self patting on the back is only credible within the walls of the IBFC because nobody else in the nation cares until the IBFC does something to a great team from outside this conference.  Whats more important bashing a Mac team that everyone knows is down(captain obvious), or talking about more important issues like the respectability of this conference which currently does not exist.

Respond to me!!!!!!!!!!

[cudub]

I would like you to show me when/where I said anything about CUW and their respectability?  Nowhere, I have been speaking solely on the MacMurray program.  And no, I am not "kicking them when they are down".  I'm just kicking them at a time when they happen to be down.  This is the first year I have felt the ability to post on this board because before I was still affiliated with my team.  Do you see me on here talking smack about Euereka or Blackburn?  Or about GC having a down year?  I can not speak for mac in it's hay day, i was not around at that point.  Im speaking in the last 4-5 years, in my experiences, they are a dirty football team.  That is a fact.  And I would also like to point out that your best argument is talking crap about CUW, not defending your own school.  And your right, this conference is a joke at this point, but CUW at least went 10-0 and hosted a playoff game, CUW beat several non-conference teams in the last couple of years, and CUW goes about there business with class (as do most of the teams in the IBFC).  I don't want to get into an argument about CUW, because its not worth it, but all i will say is that we are doing more by going 7-3, in terms of respect, than you are by going 0-10.  But I would just like to say one more time, NOT ONCE have I spoke badly of MacMurray college's football abilities on the field.  I have only commented on their sportsmanship (or lack thereof).  I went to a high school that went 0-9 i know what its like, and it sucks, trust me i know.  But we still played the game correctly. 


ps.  "maybe the coach was defending himself"  Really come on, that just hurts you credibility.  I used to have to "defend myself" against the sled in practice.

[NCAA Football]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edfdq-GpzAc

I think everybody should see this.  MacMurray's Coaching at his finest.

Just so everyone knows, this incident was dealt with and that coach no longer coaches for the MacMurray program.  He was let go after the incident. 

[FMR IBFC Champ]

I would like you to show me when/where I said anything about CUW and their respectability?  Nowhere, I have been speaking solely on the MacMurray program.  And no, I am not "kicking them when they are down".  I'm just kicking them at a time when they happen to be down.  This is the first year I have felt the ability to post on this board because before I was still affiliated with my team.  Do you see me on here talking smack about Euereka or Blackburn?  Or about GC having a down year?  I can not speak for mac in it's hay day, i was not around at that point.  Im speaking in the last 4-5 years, in my experiences, they are a dirty football team.  That is a fact.  And I would also like to point out that your best argument is talking crap about CUW, not defending your own school.  And your right, this conference is a joke at this point, but CUW at least went 10-0 and hosted a playoff game, CUW beat several non-conference teams in the last couple of years, and CUW goes about there business with class (as do most of the teams in the IBFC).  I don't want to get into an argument about CUW, because its not worth it, but all i will say is that we are doing more by going 7-3, in terms of respect, than you are by going 0-10.  But I would just like to say one more time, NOT ONCE have I spoke badly of MacMurray college's football abilities on the field.  I have only commented on their sportsmanship (or lack thereof).  I went to a high school that went 0-9 i know what its like, and it sucks, trust me i know.  But we still played the game correctly. 


ps.  "maybe the coach was defending himself"  Really come on, that just hurts you credibility.  I used to have to "defend myself" against the sled in practice.

Who are you getting repsect from by going 7-3? Nobody outside the IBFC takes that  record serious. That hurts your credibility.  If your happy with being just the best in the IBFC then  more power to you. I would think that your pre-season goals begin with a conference championship and end with a deep run through the playoffs. If not then then your just wasting time. That was my mentality as a player.  Mac also once went 10-0. Like I have said before that means nothing unless you win a playoff game. Your comment about hosting a playoff game, that only means you were supposed to win and you didn't.  That also hurts your credibility.  For the record, I was not trashing CUW just pointing out that their background has blemishes like anyone else.  You said you  were speaking solely on the Mac Program.  What is there to say that everyone on this message board does not already know? To me that post was a shot at Mac. My opinion. Your facts are wrong about Mac though, they may have had a dirty "player" but he does not represent the whole team. Of course I am going to defend my school.  Any alumni with pride would. If you read my earlier posts I also point my schools flaws. As always you are entitled to your opinion but when you state so called "facts" make sure they are that, facts and not opinions.

[cudub]

As I said before, im not trying to make this an argument about CUW, because...well just because i dont really want to get into that argument right now.  There not perfect, i know that, everyone knows that.  But, i know firsthand, and from other players from IBFC teams that coaches "practice" playing macmurray.  That practice includes the scout team talking trash, and taking cheap shots at the starters.  Starters have to practice just waking away.  Now, I just don't see a coach doing that to his team just for the hell of it. 


(and just for the record, if winning conference means absolutely nothing, then why is there even an Illini-badger football conference? why dont they just turn it into an Intramural deal?)

[FMR IBFC Champ]

As I said before, im not trying to make this an argument about CUW, because...well just because i dont really want to get into that argument right now.  There not perfect, i know that, everyone knows that.  But, i know firsthand, and from other players from IBFC teams that coaches "practice" playing macmurray.  That practice includes the scout team talking trash, and taking cheap shots at the starters.  Starters have to practice just waking away.  Now, I just don't see a coach doing that to his team just for the hell of it. 


(and just for the record, if winning conference means absolutely nothing, then why is there even an Illini-badger football conference? why dont they just turn it into an Intramural deal?)

I didnt say it meant nothing, but it should not be your only goal.  Because, for the most part, the level of the competition is nothing to brag about. As a player you have no choice in which conference your school plays in.  But if the conference is weak then prove your a good team by beating playoff teams from other conferences.  When I played at Mac we did not get it done outside the conference either.  My argument is against people bragging about something they no reason bragging about.  Set your goals higher(all teams in the IBFC).  Get that playoff win for the IBFC before it is disbanded.  It will not erase the years of inferiority, but at least be a step in the right direction for the school that does it heading into their new conference.  If Mac is not in the playoffs then I root for the team from the IBFC.  The truth sometimes hurts!!!!

[cudub]

I more or less agree with most of the things you just said.  However.....Ive said on each post, im not hellbent on discussing the falcons or the reputation of the conference.  And I notice you had no response for my last comments on mac?

[cudub]

I meant to end that last post the same way you ended yours.  Regarding macmurray......im not saying they were always dirty, or that they were not a proud, talented program, but now..... Sometimes the truth hurts

[sotha sil]

Just for note, Cedric Simmons was let go from the school and team after certain things happened.  He wasn't a bad person really and worked hard, played through injuries and such.  Just made mistakes.  CUW has had situations in that past and has handled them properly.  Such as having some key players suspended during the Lakeland CUW game last year.  We also have all sport drug testing here at CUW.  All sports and all participants can be tested not only during season, but also in off season.  Football does multiple grade checks during the year.  Also, any on campus problems that occur involving athletes is reported to the head coach of that sport. 

[Gomer Pyle]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edfdq-GpzAc

I think everybody should see this.  MacMurray's Coaching at his finest.

  Woody Hayes,  head football coach at Ohio State back in the day hit a player from the opposing team while a play was in progress as well.
   That discretion along with other problems that were brewing at OSU
    got the ball rolling for his removal.
  Does anybody know who the coach at fault was? 
 

[d3ftball1]

classy coach
Thanks for the video about macmurrays coach. Wonder what macinsidelady has to say about that?

[Gomer Pyle]

 Aurora...35                         D-3 scoreboard
The Cougars...13  3rd                                                 


Benedictine...14
Eureka...........6    Half

[Gomer Pyle]

Up-date on the Aurora ............Cougar game.
    The score is now AU--42. The Cougars...13, in the 4th.

    The fans are starting to hum the Aurora fight song and the "Believers"
     bus  just turned into a pumpkin.   
     

[cudub]

Lakeland- 20                         11:00 left in the 4th
CUW - 14



One hell of a game so far.  Everyone talked about how to beat concordia, but i didnt believe any IBFC teams had the talent to do it.  LC is very good, and this game is going to go down to the wire.

[cudub]

CUW drives from the lakeland 40.....

CUW 21
LC- 20               8:50 remaining