FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference

[Gregory Sager]

"Bethral"?

[usee]

"Bethral"?

Greg,

its Bethel's name before they became christian. Kind of like Saul/Paul

[Gomer Pyle]

The Boys from Mequon do have a shot at this game. 
   They score close with Bethel having the upper hand putting up almost
   33 per to CU-W`s 28+.
  Average rush for BU is 4.4 while CU-W get 5.2. Remember they play in the
    IBFC.
  Total offense: Average per play is close as you get get at 5.4 for BU and
    5.2 for CU-W.
  Top receiver for BU has 55 catches while CU-W`s top receiver has 30.
   The one important area that could well make the diffenence in this game is the field goal kicker for CU-W. The Boys from Mequon aren`t bashful about going for 3.
    They have tried 15 while making 7. He has decent range as he has been good out to 39 yds.
    Bethel, on the other hand, is 4 for 10 out to 34 yds.
   If CU-W plays these guys tough ( think positive) the "3" could well play
   a big part in the out come. 
  When The possibilty of CU-W playing Mout Union or WhiteWater was tossed around the thought was, one and done. Now, The Boys from Mequon have a legitmate shot at winning this game. Good luck to them. 
   
   

[baseman201]

Gomer-

Ok, you say they score about the same points per game, Bethel at 33 and CUW at 28....the difference is CUW does it in the IBC and Bethel does it in a considerably tougher conference, the MIAC.

I just don't think the game will be close, Bethel will be playing their scrubs about halfway through the 4th quarter.....maybe all of the 4th quarter...

Sure, I don't know much about Bethel, but I know they went 9-1 playing some tough teams, including the 17-14 win over St. John's who was #3 in the nation and undefeated.  Honestly St. John's would take CUW by at least 50. 

I mean come on, St. John's, St. Olaf and Concordia Moorhead in your conference and you beat all of them?  That's decent in my book.

Bethel - 56
CUW - 3

I gave them the 3 points you were talking about Gomer, 

[old 40]

My take on the game is that CUW has a chance against Bethal but they have to play a perfect game. Bethal has some strong points that can put the hurt on CUW. Speed is the big one, Bethal has very quick backs with speed and their QB has speed. The Bethal defense is based on speed, more than any team they have seen this year.

It should be a game of Bethal's OL's blocking the CUW front 7, if that happens then it will be a long day for CUW. If it's a stalemate then they have a chance. How well is CUW? Big question. They will need their starting QB and running back to be healthly along with their secondary. If the Offense has the game of their life it will be a close game and special teams/turnovers will be the difference.

I saw Bethal play a couple of years ago and they were very good. Explosive and aggressive on Offense and on Defense they flew all over the field. They will be very tough to beat.

Predictions; Bethal 31- CUW14, I hope for a perfect world and CUW plays perfect and Bethal is looking beyond then CUW21-Bethal17.

[cudub]

What do i Know0-
im not saying that cuw is the favorite.  But 6 touchdowns?  Sounds like your just bitter to me.


The only reason i give CUW any chance is that the person i talked to on the MIAC board said that Bethel is a power running team.  And if CUW has one outstanding area it would be the defensive line/linebackers run stopping ability, led by big wilbur.  Given that, i think i agree with you old 40, if CUW plays phenominal it could be a about a 3-7 point game either way.  If bethel comes to play, and the CUW offense looks like it did last week...... I take the royals by 24

[CougsFB]

Gomer, the only reason I would say that CUW loses this game is because of the information given from the MIAC board. Granted, they might be biased because it is their team in the playoffs, if true... they said Bethel has a great run defense. Think about it, what does CUW do??? They have at most, a C- passing game and their offense is based off the run. If they do happen to run the ball well and get 3-5 yards a pop...then I do think CUW keeps this game closer than some people expect. Since I am part of the IBFC, I will not go against Mequon because there is possibility they could win this game and the "3" will help them.

CUWs keys for winning this game:
1. Control the clock more than Bethel (it was said they like to run the clock and keep control....steal that away from them)
2. 3-5 yds per carry (able to control clock with this and get the defense tired)
3. FIELD GOALS "3"
4. Huge defensive plays (CUW has some good players at LB and DB...lets not forget about Wilbur in the middle. He could definately change the way Bethel has to run the ball and this might cause some frustration. GET BIG WILBUR)
5. Special teams...CUW did very well with special teams this year and this needs to be huge in this game.

The only thing that scares me about CUW is how close some teams in the IBFC played them. Hopefully they come out to play on Saturday and give the IBFC their first and last win in the D-3 playoffs.

Is anyone attending this game?

[Gomer Pyle]

baseman201.........cougsFB:
  Guys,  I said.........................They have a shot.   I put up some facts and added comments.
   You countered with your reasons........fine.  Point is it made you think.
   that`s what discussion is all about.  Plus, it was civil.

  Baseman201: Did I detect some, woulda, coulda,shoulda in there? 

[baseman201]

Gomer-

I agree, we are keeping this a civilized conversation, unlike some in the past (not naming any names though)

All opinions are welcomed of course, and in this instance ours differ, but that's ok, we all know mine is right....

Ok just kidding, but we will see come Saturday.  I wish I was attending the game but unfortunately Minnesota is a big drive.  I enjoyed it in 2005 when Lakeland came to play Augustana, since I live about 10 minutes from it.

CougsFB-

If what you say is true about Bethels run defense then CUW is in for a LOOOOONG game....but I guess you already established that, I am just reiterating your statement.

And Gomer.....I never......EVER use woulda, coulda, shoulda, that's copyrighted by you....

[Gomer Pyle]

baseman201:

                 

[GoldandBlueBU]

Bethel is 0-3 all time in the playoffs, so bethel's guys have to have that on their mind...having a tendency to choke in the playoffs, and going against a team they've never played, anything could happen.
Having said that, Bethel completely owned simpson, if bethel wasn't playing their 2nds alot of the 2nd half, it would have been much more lopsided.  And CUW lost to simpson, only putting up 3 points.
Also, I agree with Baseman in saying that your comparissons of bethel's stats vs. CUW's carries little signifigance.  BU plays in the MIAC, which is consistently a tough conference, and much tougher than the IBC.
BU 42- CUW 10

[WhatDoIKnow]

cudub- trust me, I am not bitter.  I would love to see CUW and the IBFC win a playoff game.  But, CUW's history in the playoffs, the way they have played this season and especially the last 3 games, I can't imagine them keeping the game within 6 TD.  If they do, I will certainly eat my words.  I don't eat my words often though.

For those talking about a perfect game, they haven't played a perfect game yet this year in one of the worst conferences in a D3.  What makes anyone believe they will play a perfect game to one of the best teams in the country???

[CougsFB]

Gomer- I'm keeping it civil. I was just restating what was said from the MIAC board...I also think CUW has a shot....if they come out and play.

What everyone needs to realize about the CUW/Simpson game is that Mequon was running the spread offense. Mequon...RUNNING THE SPREAD??? The new offense installed obviously didn't work for a team that has like I said before, a C- passing game. So everyone could throw the Bethel beat Simpson whatever to nothing and CUw lost 14- the magical number this week..."3"

And to set things straight...I am not rooting for CUW, I am rooting for the IBFC. Being a former player, I cannot go for another team I played against.

GO IBFC!

Baseman...you're a pimp.

[Cougswillwin]

Being a Minnesotan, I am a huuuge fan of the MIAC.  They get quality athletes from the Minneapolis/St.Paul Metro area.  However, thier conference is pretty top heavy.  The top 3 or 4 teams are damn good, but the rest of the conference isn't anything special. 

Bethel is a team that plays consistent, disciplined football...the way it is supposed to be played, not like the way it is played in the IBFC.  However, I believe that CUW also plays very disciplined football.  Bethel's style of play is very similar to CUW's style of play.  I think that this is going to be a very good game that will come down to the wire...but for this to happen, CUW must play consistent the whole way through.  Yeah they are the underdog, but if CUW plays consistent and disciplined they can pull the upset and get the IBFC thier first playoff victory.  For that to happen CUW must do the following:

1) Own the Time of Possession battle...Bethel like to hold on to the ball so CUW must make them play out of their style.
2)NO TURNOVERS...this is a key to winning any football game, but against a really good Bethel squad this will be a must.
3) Answer Bethel's big plays/scores...If CUW can answer each time, it will keep Bethel from getting the momentum and keeping it. The MIAC teams average a couple thousand fans a game, and Bethel is right near the top in attendance.  They will have a big crowd and momentum swing to the home team will put the Falcons away.

The list could go on, but I think that those 3 areas will be key factors in deciding whether or not the IBFC gets thier first playoff victory...Good Luck CUW!!

CUW: 24
Bethel: 21

[Gomer Pyle]

CougsFB:
   Your comment was .....civil.  That was the point I was trying to make.
   One other point.  When i said, "remember they (CU-W) play in the IBFC."
   ref the stats I posted was said tonque in cheek. I was hoping you (anybody ) would read between the lines. That this conference (IBFC) doesn`t have the same  caliber  of
   competition as in the MIAC.  There-by the stats listed may not be of equal value.