FB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[frank uible]

Love the Hart matter! It exposed some of the superficialities, insecurities, lack of information and other deficiencies of players in the recruiting game.

[seventiesraider]

Sorry but I think that those among us who put so much importance in this non-event are to blame for stuff like this. I tend to agree with this commentary:

It's too early to turn teenagers into celebrities - Too much fanfare for college decisions


When I see these kids sitting there with their new college ball caps on I gotta wonder what Mom and Dad are thinking (or if Mom and Dad are thinking), and do they realize that many of these kids are being set up for a fall that many never recover from. A torn ACL, a couple of bad practices and Junior comes crashing back to earth. Where's ESPN when Junior leans out the drive through window with his Ohio State cap on and asks if you want fries with that?

Are we sure that Kevin is the one with his priorities screwed up?

[formerd3db]

All good/valid comments, you guys, regarding the unfortunate Hart situation.  However, here is the most important question...while this young man obviously made a very major mistake, who/what program is going to step up, give him a chance and also to help him?  One of the real tests will be to see who has the courage to do something postive like that.  Another thought is that, if he does go and play at a junior college and does well, would Ault and/or others have the courage to give the guy at least a chance to walk on then, and thus it being up to the kid to determine his own fate as far as how the remainder of his career would "play out"?  Of course, the latter is pure speculation at present.  Regardless, as has been said, he has to face the consequences now, but it is not insurmountable to recover from this misjudgement and I, too, wish him well.

[wab64]

My hat is off to Kevin Hart for spoofing National Signing Day - the ultimate non-news event, a day that only ESPN could love. That anyone could get upset that he made a joke of it is of itself laughable.

It's not sports till it happens between the white lines.

PS No matter whose hat Erik is wearing, he'll always be faithful to The Colour Purple.

[wally_wabash]

All good/valid comments, you guys, regarding the unfortunate Hart situation.  However, here is the most important question...while this young man obviously made a very major mistake, who/what program is going to step up, give him a chance and also to help him?  One of the real tests will be to see who has the courage to do something postive like that.  Another thought is that, if he does go and play at a junior college and does well, would Ault and/or others have the courage to give the guy at least a chance to walk on then, and thus it being up to the kid to determine his own fate as far as how the remainder of his career would "play out"?  Of course, the latter is pure speculation at present.  Regardless, as has been said, he has to face the consequences now, but it is not insurmountable to recover from this misjudgement and I, too, wish him well.

It certainly isn't insurmountable and if he goes to a JC and performs well somebody will give him a chance because if he can help a team win, coach of said team won't care what he did two or three years ago.  But the kid has to get right with himself before he even thinks about playing football.  This incident, to me, speaks to a pretty serious insecurity issue and when Kevin Hart gets straight with that, then he can move on.  But normal people just don't perpetuate stories like this if everything is cool.  Given time and some subsequent maturity, I think he'll be fine.

[Li'l Giant]

My issue with this is story is why is this worse than some recruits that have felony records before they land in (typically) Norman or Tallahassee?

Which would you rather have as a coach? A guy who wants to play football so bad that he told a lie about where he was playing that spun out of control? Or a guy that cares so little about anything, including football, that he'd let it all fall apart over a joint, or a party, or a gun?

[seventiesraider]

My issue with this is story is why is this worse than some recruits that have felony records before they land in (typically) Norman or Tallahassee?

Which would you rather have as a coach? A guy who wants to play football so bad that he told a lie about where he was playing that spun out of control? Or a guy that cares so little about anything, including football, that he'd let it all fall apart over a joint, or a party, or a gun?

By George, I think he's got it.

[wab64]

Gentlemen: I apologize for reducing the tone of the board with my somewhat senseless post at 11:48pm yesterday, which turned out to be a quote of seventies raider and nothing else. I've got to learn how to drive this thing. I was going to make some reference to it-pushed a button and I was done. Whatever I was going to say, which I thought to be quite clever after 4 Nut Brown Ales at the local pub/microbrewery at 11:48pm seems only puerile at this point. I have to get it together to expunge the - karma laid on me by a DePauw person for being sarcastic. I thought that that was what the purpose was-I aspire to sarcasm because being bittersweet all the time is boring, as my favorite, John Leonard, has said.

[Superfoot Wallace]

That's some mouse del.  Like he a circus mouse or somethin'.

Smith's > Adam's

signed,
Tadcasters and Mr. Jingles

[joepieters]

Gentlemen: I apologize for reducing the tone of the board with my somewhat senseless post at 11:48pm yesterday, which turned out to be a quote of seventies raider and nothing else. I've got to learn how to drive this thing. I was going to make some reference to it-pushed a button and I was done. Whatever I was going to say, which I thought to be quite clever after 4 Nut Brown Ales at the local pub/microbrewery at 11:48pm seems only puerile at this point. I have to get it together to expunge the - karma laid on me by a DePauw person for being sarcastic. I thought that that was what the purpose was-I aspire to sarcasm because being bittersweet all the time is boring, as my favorite, John Leonard, has said.

Wab64 - this is a message board, we live for puerile!!!!

[wab64]

Thanks, Joe Wally. I shall try to be more puerile, but not, according to DPU, sarcastic.

[bigwheels77]

Is anyone else waiting for Pat to jump in and tell us to talk about something else?

[wabco]

General question ... is Raeburn (or Reaburn ... however 64 wants me to spell it) a good recruiter?  Does he work well with Admissions?  This was one of Creighton's secret weapons ... working well with Admissions and fitting the football desires within the world of Admissions as they run admissions. 

After an initial flurry of vibrations/news stuff upon the hiring, it seems to have gone silent.  Is this just style and too early ... or should I take up fall golf?

No criticism or panic button here here ... just a little "worry creep" given the lateness of the hire and the need to get the horses going with Frosh recruitment.  I believe the upperclass cupboard is full for next year's run at conference championship and playoff run (assuming no terrible invasion of the injury monster) ... but future?

[bigwheels77]

wabco
    I would think that it is too early to know much... but if you are able to golf right now, you are doing us all an injustice by not golfing! I would kill to get the sticks out right now

[smedindy]

I think it's too early to tell. He needs to get a staff and get involved in Indiana. CC found his way but not overnight. I do think the stout admissions department will step in and help as well.