FB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[ADL70]

Those non-conf games may represent rivalry games that the schools wanted to continue, but didn't fit the NCAC schedule protocol.

Earlham seems to have its own agreement with the HCAC.

[wally_wabash]

Those non-conf games may represent rivalry games that the schools wanted to continue, but didn't fit the NCAC schedule protocol.

This could be, although when I hear OWU vs. Denison on the gridiron, "rivalry" doesn't immediately spring to mind.  I can excuse this if there is a trophy on the line that I don't know about.  Otherwise these teams really shouldn't be settling to play one another.  Non-conference games should be just that: non-conference. 

Earlham seems to have its own agreement with the HCAC.

It would appear that way, but the NCAC, of which Earlham is a part of at last check, has this agreement with the UAA.  I think we all need to do our part here.   I'm a little surprised because Earlham, ground zero for the D-IV movement, has the chance to rub shoulderpads with the academically elite...thought they'd jump all over this. 

[Superfoot Wallace]

OWU v Denison and Oberlin v Kenyon as non-conference games

The only rivalry game brewing there has no coincidence.  The Kenyon-Denison tilt is the brewing rivalry.  Since they are both complicit in this con as non-con am tending to think of these games as parameters to the K-D rivalry.  It's not there yet, but is building. 

Denison is the conference darkhorse coming into this season.  It starts with the OLine.  Kenyon better have taken full advantage of their success in the sales pitch.  This series has been themed Big Red O Line versus Lord LB's and QB recently.

Feel these con as non-con games reek of DIV, but have seen Kenyon and Denison moving swiftly in a different vector than Earlham. 

Really, think the de facto Earlham-HCAC agreement plays to Earlham's hand as something otherly in Indiana while providing the opportunity for some continued HS rivalries.  Surely of different magnitude, but the agreement is similar to Allegheny's flirtaions with the PAC in the last decade.

signed,
YUBEI

[ADL70]

Those four schools and Wooster are members of an academic organization called the Five Colleges of Ohio.  "The five colleges had been affiliated as members of state and national educational and athletic organizations and had enjoyed friendly rivalry in various academic and athletic competitions, similar to Little Three in New England."


Earlham's prez probably thinks the UAA schools put too much emphasis on althetics as evidenced by their standing in the Director's Cup.

[wabco]

watch 'Bash web site tomorrow .......

[bashbrother]

Does anyone know if NCAA Playoff numbers count in NCAC Conference statistical records?

[Mr. Ypsi]

Can't speak for NCAC policy, but conference records are usually for conference games - i.e., neither non-conference nor postseason games would be counted.

[BashDad]

Yes!

[cave2bens]

So what's the scoop from those LGs "closer to the situation?"

http://www.wabash.edu/news/displaystory.cfm?news_ID=5909

[wabco]

OK ... Wed. news:  Goodby Vernon and hello Bambrey.  Suspect this is an improvement ... in that Vern no longer AD is always a good thought ... not sure what Bams brings.  (At least Bams is a 'Bash grad and was a runner while at Wabash.  He also was Vern's "boss".)  Stay tuned.

[Knightstalker]

In the month of May the VFW distributes Buddy Poppies.  Please take time to give a dollar and take a poppy.  The proceeds of this go to aid the Disabled Vets

Mike Dougherty
Commander VFW Memorial Post 3776
Secaucus NJ


In Flander's Field
by John McCrae
In Flanders Fields the poppies blow,
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky,
The larks, still bravely singing, fly,
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the dead.
Short days ago,
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved and now we lie,
In Flanders Fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe
To you, from failing hands, we throw,
The torch, be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us, who die,
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow,
In Flanders Fields.

[LGHistorian]

In one of the local newspapers in C'ville it said Mummert resigned but does not currently have another job. He said it was time for him to seek other opportunities and that he might stay in the midwest.

I know he was not real popular within Wabash and the Crawfordsville communities although I never had a problem with him when I needed assistance a couple of times. And he always seemed to make it a point to talk to me when ever he could at athletic events.

Bambrey is a good guy. I don't know what kind of AD he will be but he has been on the committees that brought Creighton and Raeburn on board, probably several other recent new coaches as well.

[Superfoot Wallace]

Is it fall yet?

Awoke from my slumber by a coaching dream.  Some surreal stuff.  Flashback to a practice in 1995, coaching HS ball.  Anyway, must've been good stuff as was aware of my sleep as dreamt but didn't want to wake.  Will say no more as it was WingT content and wouldn't want to upset you buncha chuck and duck boys.

Can't believe no one has brought up the Oberlin receiver invite to the Cleveland Browns' minicamp.  Maybe it was brought up.  Some of the board consensus makings felt the league OPOY, Obie's RB, wasn't even the best offensive player on his own team.

Must be good to be a Yeoman around these times.  Anybody remember the Obie Receiver during the lean years of the mid to late nineties?  Parker? 

signed,
30's Series in the November Rain.

[formerd3db]

Apologies for poor composition, and faux pax regarding OWU and NCAC power index.  Bloody, bad form...

Reference to Hillsdale wasn't meant to be argumentative - just a point that this neophyte realized they aren't of this division.  As a longtime subscriber to Imprimis, three family alums/survivors of George Roche's "battle for independence" in the early 1970s, a good friend who captained Muddy's last two teams, and personal, summer course experience, there's familiarity.    Current "neighborhood," lib arts colleges are equally split -"Emorrhoids" and Oglethorpe go III, the Paladins, Presby, and Wofford play II, and then there's Davidson...

My only "tongue in cheek" retort was directed to Wabco's OAC line.  Just felt that the CCAP criteria must not have included football prowess...

cave2bens:

Excellent post.  Points well made and acknowledged here!   You redeemed yourself re: composition!   +k to you.   Ah, yes, Davidson - an interesting fb story/history. 

BTW, interesting re: your history.  I almost went to play at Hillsdale there for Muddy's last year, but alas he took off for SVSU; and due to the state of their football stadium at that time, my brother was quoted as saying..."if he thinks I'm coming down here to watch him play at this place, he'd better think again!"   Of course, that was due to 1) some very dilapitated small visitors stands, 2) some "hippie geeks" seen playing touch football on the field at the time of our visit, 3) the swamp where Chester Marcol used to kick his FG's and extra points into at the one end of the field, 4) the crumbling concrete home stands (although those were kind of "kool" with them being up against the back of the fieldhouse), 5) a dilapitated chain-link fence on the edge of the cliff at the end of the fieldhouse over looking "the cliff" as the only means from keeping persons (or cars) from going over the side into the stands among some aspects!   Then again, all that has obviously changed and upgraded to a very nice facilitiy.  Still some great tradition there and some great people who have played at that college.

But I digress; sorry for the boring remeniscing, but just thought by chance you might enjoy hearing my "follies" on the trip there!   Until our next...take care.

formerd3db     

[frank uible]

Bring back Bruce McLenna!