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Pat Coleman

Actually, it's the regular season, so Wooster will play Wabash no matter what the result is against Baldwin-Wallace.
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Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 07, 2010, 12:56:39 PM
Actually, it's the regular season, so Wooster will play Wabash no matter what the result is against Baldwin-Wallace.

Of course, but the original post was how Wooster stacked up against B-W.
That result could indicate their success or not against Wabash!
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short

Raider 68,

This is the North Coast Athletic Conference board aka the Wabash board so most of the posters here bring all questions back to Wabash.  The team in the NCAC that deserves talking about this year is Allegheny.  They return a very nice team and I think have a chance to turn some heads.  Their QB is the best (and will be) in the NCAC in 2010.  To bad he doesn't have the Wabash receivers!!! 

wally_wabash

Quote from: Raider 68 on July 07, 2010, 01:33:34 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 07, 2010, 12:56:39 PM
Actually, it's the regular season, so Wooster will play Wabash no matter what the result is against Baldwin-Wallace.

Of course, but the original post was how Wooster stacked up against B-W.
That result could indicate their success or not against Wabash!

Wooster could beat B-W by 48 and it won't matter if they don't bother to cover Lemond again this year.  He'll be wearing the red #1 jersey...maybe roll some coverage over his way.  Just a thought. 

There are cleats to fill at Wabash for sure...probably the most holes we've seen from one year to the next since the '02-'03 transition.  This year I think we'll find out how much difference a long string of success and fantastic recruiting makes when turning over a roster. 

Quote from: ADL70 on July 07, 2010, 08:26:18 AM
Nothing official from CWRU either.  The nine refered to are just nine who were announced in local papers.

You can sitll only use one QB at a time, right?  What do the other eight guys do?
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short, are you taking Salopek for first team NCAC in 2010?  And giving me the field?  I'll take that bet.
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FightinScot

Quote from: BashDad on July 06, 2010, 06:02:08 PM
Same QB you saw last year.


We'll see if he's the same with a brand new O-line and a greater emphasis on holding penalties  ;) I figured Belton would get the nod, as he was head and shoulders above anything I saw from Miracle, but he's far from a returning starter.

If Wabash is losing as much as I think they are, especially on the defensive side of the ball, we could be in for two real green teams battling for this one. Turnovers/ penalties will decide it, IMO.

Raider 68

Quote from: short on July 07, 2010, 03:22:25 PM
Raider 68,

This is the North Coast Athletic Conference board aka the Wabash board so most of the posters here bring all questions back to Wabash.  The team in the NCAC that deserves talking about this year is Allegheny.  They return a very nice team and I think have a chance to turn some heads.  Their QB is the best (and will be) in the NCAC in 2010.  To bad he doesn't have the Wabash receivers!!! 

So does Allegheny surprize the conference favorites? Have not heard much here about Wittenberg, did they not win the conference and go fairly deep in last year's playoffs? ::)
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Quote from: wally_wabash on July 07, 2010, 03:38:02 PM
 

Quote from: ADL70 on July 07, 2010, 08:26:18 AM
Nothing official from CWRU either.  The nine refered to are just nine who were announced in local papers.

You can still only use one QB at a time, right?  What do the other eight guys do?


You have my nines mixed up.  CMU has nine incoming QBs.  The CWRU nine are the recruits that I have found on the web from announcements in local papers.  None are QBs.

In most high schools the QB is the best athlete on the team. It's not unusual for HS QBs to become college RBs, WRs, DBs, TEs, and even LBs.
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Quote from: FightinScot on July 07, 2010, 05:28:36 PM
I figured Belton would get the nod... but he's far from a returning starter.

And just how far is that?

2007: Offensive line returns two starters. Bobby Kimp is the starting running back. Mike Russell, Ray Green, Bart Banach, and Andrew Rode were the top four receivers. Hudson came up from third string to throw for 2700 yards and 25 TDs.

Look, I love Hudson but this is decidedly different. Belton is entering a team that's deeper, faster, and more talented at every skill position PLUS he's played. In a must win game. With all of two months experience. And rocked. His mechanics are immaculate, he might be the best athlete to play QB at Wabash since Ings, and the only unknown-- at this point-- is if he has the thing that made Hudson successful. The "It."

I say he does. He's going to explode.

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Raider68-for some reason, Witt people don't post with any regularity. I think it may be they were irritated when Wabash people started to dominate the site (and Wabash won a few games,including 2 in 2002) The cinch run though the conference for Witt became a thing of the past (except an excellent Witt team ran the table last year). Could it be that they are keeping everything close to the vest and/or letting their team do the talking on the carpet. The Wabash-Witt game has become a major nail-biting rivalry, the best in the NCAC, and maybe the best in the Midwest. I even read some posts last year from a Wabash person or two, that it has become (heresy) bigger than the Bell. Such thoughts should  cease when the Dannies come on board the conference in 2012.

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FightinScot

Quote from: BashDad on July 07, 2010, 08:37:29 PM
Quote from: FightinScot on July 07, 2010, 05:28:36 PM
I figured Belton would get the nod... but he's far from a returning starter.

And just how far is that?

2007: Offensive line returns two starters. Bobby Kimp is the starting running back. Mike Russell, Ray Green, Bart Banach, and Andrew Rode were the top four receivers. Hudson came up from third string to throw for 2700 yards and 25 TDs.

Look, I love Hudson but this is decidedly different. Belton is entering a team that's deeper, faster, and more talented at every skill position PLUS he's played. In a must win game. With all of two months experience. And rocked. His mechanics are immaculate, he might be the best athlete to play QB at Wabash since Ings, and the only unknown-- at this point-- is if he has the thing that made Hudson successful. The "It."

I say he does. He's going to explode.


Say what you want about a quarterback's mechanics, athleticism, experience.... whatever - the biggest unknown has nothing to do with the QB, its how much time he's got to use his talent. Belton could be a heck of a player, and he's shown he has that potential, but unless Wabash can reload from losing 4 all conference offensive lineman (not to mention an All-American at LT), I don't see this year as Belton's "explosion" year. Don't forget, your offensive line in '07 had two first team ACs leading them. 


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Quote from: FightinScot on July 07, 2010, 09:45:10 PM
Quote from: BashDad on July 07, 2010, 08:37:29 PM
Quote from: FightinScot on July 07, 2010, 05:28:36 PM
I figured Belton would get the nod... but he's far from a returning starter.

And just how far is that?

2007: Offensive line returns two starters. Bobby Kimp is the starting running back. Mike Russell, Ray Green, Bart Banach, and Andrew Rode were the top four receivers. Hudson came up from third string to throw for 2700 yards and 25 TDs.

Look, I love Hudson but this is decidedly different. Belton is entering a team that's deeper, faster, and more talented at every skill position PLUS he's played. In a must win game. With all of two months experience. And rocked. His mechanics are immaculate, he might be the best athlete to play QB at Wabash since Ings, and the only unknown-- at this point-- is if he has the thing that made Hudson successful. The "It."

I say he does. He's going to explode.


Say what you want about a quarterback's mechanics, athleticism, experience.... whatever - the biggest unknown has nothing to do with the QB, its how much time he's got to use his talent. Belton could be a heck of a player, and he's shown he has that potential, but unless Wabash can reload from losing 4 all conference offensive lineman (not to mention an All-American at LT), I don't see this year as Belton's "explosion" year. Don't forget, your offensive line in '07 had two first team ACs leading them. 


Belton is the exact QB that Raeburn wanted to run his offense. It is true that we will be reloading on the O line, but Belton won't be doing as much dropping back as he will be rolling out. This will be the fastest offense that Wabash has put on the field in a long time at all the skilled positions. Running backs, Receivers, Quarterback, all very fast. This year you will see the real ER offense and it should be fun to watch. 8-)
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I can't argue that the loss of those guys up front is a good thing, but it's worth pointing out that if the system is working and if the perception of the program's continued development is true, then this is exactly what should be happening. Your seniors should be the best.

So, I dunno... Maybe I'm being totally naive and the reality is that we're staring down a 6-4 year. Fine, maybe, whatever. But there hasn't been an offseason since I've been out that proved as exciting as this one. And while I have no idea what it felt like before 2003, it seems like the program is in a different place and the feeling of rollover isn't as scary. Wabash will be picked second in the league and we'll have to wait 8 weeks for that to finally play out. I'll take Wabash's changing of the guard over Wooster's, that's for sure.

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Also:

Not to be overly snarky, but why do you get to play the QB card while I'm an idiot for doing the same? You guys have exactly the same number of returning linemen that we do.

Quote from: FightinScot on July 06, 2010, 05:48:27 PM
Wooster's O-Line will be alright- there was a lot of depth there last year, and the talent is there for this group to be very good... sure they'll be green, but they will be well-coached and prepped for this game. The key to the game (offensively, for Woo) will be if Wooster can find a QB that fits into the offensive scheme they've got, and how well he makes the reads.

Quote from: FightinScot on July 07, 2010, 09:45:10 PM
Say what you want about a quarterback's mechanics, athleticism, experience.... whatever - the biggest unknown has nothing to do with the QB, its how much time he's got to use his talent.

wally_wabash

Quote from: ADL70 on July 07, 2010, 07:51:08 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on July 07, 2010, 03:38:02 PM
 

Quote from: ADL70 on July 07, 2010, 08:26:18 AM
Nothing official from CWRU either.  The nine refered to are just nine who were announced in local papers.

You can still only use one QB at a time, right?  What do the other eight guys do?


You have my nines mixed up.  CMU has nine incoming QBs. 

CMU doesn't even need one QB.  Hey-O!

Quote from: FightinScot on July 07, 2010, 09:45:10 PM
Say what you want about a quarterback's mechanics, athleticism, experience.... whatever - the biggest unknown has nothing to do with the QB, its how much time he's got to use his talent.

About the line...obviously there's no way to replace all of those starts that graduated this spring.  That's a ton of experience and that's the one thing that you can't just immediately replace.  I think it would be silly for the Scots to believe that they are going to be running around Wabash's new line like they were shuttle cones.  Do you really think that there aren't any players behind those now-graduated seniors?  How long do they need to protect the QB?  Long enough for Lemond or Chamblee to get open....so not that long. 
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