FB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[smedindy]

Look for this Little Giants team, that is gaining tremendous experience every week, to come out this weekend with a complete effort.

(I will continue to research the way to recover from an ACL injury in 10 days or less.)

Let's hope they play like they did in the second half vs. OWU.

Sic Benny Hinn on those ACLs! In the name of Jeebus he can heal 'em, or at least bowl 'em over.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lvU-DislkI

[ADL70]

Check your local listings for Witt @ gheny on FCS

[wally_wabash]

Check your local listings for Witt @ gheny on FCS

Indeed.  FCS-Central is airing the game live at noon on Saturday.  Excellent catch, ADL. 

[BashBacker#16]

Anyone notice CJ Gum's # change to 33?  Call me old school but I don't see why guys don't keep their original #'s unless there is a significant reason (like the Wabash tradition with #1) - maybe there is with CJ, not sure?

U Chicago's game notes on this weekend:  http://athletics.uchicago.edu/football/fb-notes-2010/fb-2010notes-wabash.pdf

They haven't beaton Wabash since 1939.

WAF!!!

[BashBacker#16]

Wabash/U Chicago game notes - http://www.wabash.edu/news/displaystory.cfm?news_ID=8292

Great to see Senior Nick Durm listed again on the 2-deep at Center.

WAF!

[bashbrother]

Anyone notice CJ Gum's # change to 33?  Call me old school but I don't see why guys don't keep their original #'s unless there is a significant reason (like the Wabash tradition with #1) - maybe there is with CJ, not sure?

16 -    They mentioned the reason why he changed on one of the Hometown Webcasts.....  I believe, and don't quote me, it may have had something to do with a friend of his that may have past away and he was wearing that number to honor him.  I could be totally wrong, but that's what I thought I heard.   

[wally_wabash]

Anyone notice CJ Gum's # change to 33?  Call me old school but I don't see why guys don't keep their original #'s unless there is a significant reason (like the Wabash tradition with #1) - maybe there is with CJ, not sure?

16 -    They mentioned the reason why he changed on one of the Hometown Webcasts.....  I believe, and don't quote me, it may have had something to do with a friend of his that may have past away and he was wearing that number to honor him.  I could be totally wrong, but that's what I thought I heard.   

You're right, bashbro.  Emmick pointed out the change during the Wooster broadcast. 

[ExTartanPlayer]

My guess is that the UAA connection will be like the swine flu ... keeps coming back each year ... perhaps in just a little different iteration.  Hope we can lessen it to one game ...

I've noticed a couple of guys whining about the NCAC-UAA agreement, so I just wanted to point out that the UAA teams are pretty clearly superior to the bottom six teams in the NCAC (and about even with Wooster/Gheny).  Note that the UAA is 26-8 against the NCAC since the scheduling agreement came into place.  For most of the league this is a fine competitive fit - Bash and Witt are the only teams that would really benefit from dropping the UAA agreement.

Even Bash/Witt get a lot more out of playing a UAA team than they would out of another 40-point drubbing of Hiram or Kenyon, right?

[Pat Coleman]

But they would get more out of playing Capital or Trine or Wheaton or W&J or ... you get the picture. Case gets to skate through without facing either of the top NCAC teams.

[bashbrother]

Bash and Witt are the only teams that would really benefit from dropping the UAA agreement.

Some good points Ex-Tartan -   The biggest beef I personally have with the arrangement is what Pat Mentioned.   Wabash or Witt not getting to play Case.  That I still don't understand.  Best teams in the conference should play the best teams in the other conference.    

[wally_wabash]

Note that the UAA is 26-8 against the NCAC since the scheduling agreement came into place.  For most of the league this is a fine competitive fit - Bash and Witt are the only teams that would really benefit from dropping the UAA agreement.

I've got 26-15.  CWRU is 12-1 against the NCAC since the start of 2008.  That makes the rest of the UAA 14-14.  

I agree that there are some series here that make sense and are good games for the teams involved.  What I don't get is why everybody has to be tied to it.  Why can't a good series like Chicago/Denison or CMU/Allegheny continue on without an agreement that restricts the choice for other teams?  

And it's not just Wabash and Wittenberg that would gain from being unshackled from this.  CWRU can't be satisfied by loading up on Hiram and Oberlin and Kenyon and Denison and OWU every single year.  That program has SEVEN elective games and chose to coast instead of challenge themselves.  On what side of that Trine beatdown do you think they may have reconsidered not getting some better games on the schedule?

[ExTartanPlayer]

Apologies wally, I made a typo.  The series is 26-15 - my mistake.  And even pointing out that CWRU is 12-1 and the rest of the conference is 14-14...that still illustrates my point.  This is a fine competitive arrangement for most of the teams

In response to a few more comments:

Re: Pat - I agree, I know that Bash/Witt would get more out of a CCIW or OAC game.  I'm just illustrating that the UAA teams are not exactly the chopped liver that they've been made out to be, at least compared to the bottom of the NCAC.

Re: wally - two more things:

1) "What I don't get is why everybody has to be tied to it.  Why can't a good series like Chicago/Denison or CMU/Allegheny continue on without an agreement that restricts the choice for other teams?"

This, I completely agree with.  I don't know why they chose to make it so many games - they could have done a much smaller-scale arrangement.  I'm sure there WAS a reason, but I doubt it would satisfy us.  When I played at CMU (2004-07), we played a bunch of PAC teams without a formal arrangement...it would be nice if there was a little more cherrypicking of appropriate matchups, but see point #2.

2) "CWRU can't be satisfied by loading up on Hiram and Oberlin and Kenyon and Denison and OWU every single year.  That program has SEVEN elective games and chose to coast instead of challenge themselves."

On the heels of three straight undefeated seasons, this comment makes sense, but that ignores a few important things.  When this agreement was announced, Case had not yet made their first playoff appearance; and remember that schedules are planned several YEARS in advance.  It's not like CWRU was a powerhouse that decided to beat up on the NCAC...they didn't even become a serious contender until AFTER the arrangement started and the games were scheduled.

[smedindy]

Anyone notice CJ Gum's # change to 33?  Call me old school but I don't see why guys don't keep their original #'s unless there is a significant reason (like the Wabash tradition with #1) - maybe there is with CJ, not sure?

U Chicago's game notes on this weekend:  http://athletics.uchicago.edu/football/fb-notes-2010/fb-2010notes-wabash.pdf

They haven't beaton Wabash since 1939.

WAF!!!

Some people identify with a number and have to wait until it's available.
Some people just look at a number as a number.

[ADL70]

I though someone from Chicago stated that the agrement had been extended to 2013, but i can't find the post now.

One thing I thought we all agreed before was that with the agreement teams don't have a choice in their schedule.

After getting beat up by Capital, Wittenberg  has chose to open with Olivet.  Hardly a testing oponent.

With DePauw becoming an NCAC foe won't that open up a game for Wabash to schedule outside of the agreement?

[bashbrother]

ADL -

I believe it should open up a non-conference game.  The question is, under the agreement does Wabash have to fill it with another UAA game.  

Wally?

Wabash is not showing any open dates for 2011 on D3Football Open dates listing.   Wittenberg is showing four (4) open dates for 2011 which cannot be correct can it?

I know enough to be dangerous on the whole issue of scheduling.   The NCAC scheduling conference opponents for non-conference games this year tipped my cup over.