FB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[BashDad]

I just find the tone of it unflattering. The  chip on his shoulder seems incongruous w the kind of player I've watched the past couple years and the interview kind of indulges his immature posturing. His answers drip with that naive kind of self confidence you read from high school seniors. He throws his school under the bus several times, likens himself to wes welker, and the race thing--the way he explains it-- is really stupid. He's implying that the coach watched him play, decided he was good enough but, sigh, wouldn't take him because he's white? No. That's not what happened.  I dunno. If he signs somewhere, I'll eat my shoe.

[BashDad]

Also, a cool-aid fueled gripe: ignored in all the discussion of Denison's triple team or CWRU's "toughest" defense is the fact that, against Wabash, a freshman held him to 37 yards receiving.

[panthersfan]

I just find the tone of it unflattering. The  chip on his shoulder seems incongruous w the kind of player I've watched the past couple years and the interview kind of indulges his immature posturing. His answers drip with that naive kind of self confidence you read from high school seniors. He throws his school under the bus several times, likens himself to wes welker, and the race thing--the way he explains it-- is really stupid. He's implying that the coach watched him play, decided he was good enough but, sigh, wouldn't take him because he's white? No. That's not what happened.  I dunno. If he signs somewhere, I'll eat my shoe.

Just read it...  Believe you hit the nail right on the head

[smedindy]

Also, a cool-aid fueled gripe: ignored in all the discussion of Denison's triple team or CWRU's "toughest" defense is the fact that, against Wabash, a freshman held him to 37 yards receiving.

That and the Maroons' OL couldn't keep their quarterback on two feet much of the game. I think that was part of the game plan as well. At any rate, he wasn't all-anything against the LG's.

[84]

This evening at 5pm is the Wabash vs. Wheaton scrimmage. The final score usually means absolutely nothing, but it does signify that the regular season is close. Plus, it's always nice to hit someone wearing different colors!!!

[ADL70]

Also, a cool-aid fueled gripe: ignored in all the discussion of Denison's triple team or CWRU's "toughest" defense is the fact that, against Wabash, a freshman held him to 37 yards receiving.

In last season's CWRU game he complained to the refs on nearly every play that he was interfered with.

[wallyworld12]

Started graduate school this week at Miami (OH) and had a meeting with the football coach to discuss ways we could get more students out to football games. What a long way I seem to be from Crawfordsville!

Fortunately, I won't have to wait too long to see the LGs in action. Heading over to Hanover to see the season opener. It should be another exciting season. Defense is certainly stacked. Will be interesting to see how Chase has matured and who's ready to step up at WR.

WAF!

[BashDad]

Someone's gonna post a Wabash/Wheaton recap, right? RIGHT?

[BashBacker#16]

I don't have great intel on the Wabash/Wheaton scrimmage but have heard bits and pieces.  If anyone attended and could post more details it would be appreciated.  Here is what I have:

- score ended 10-3 Wheaton.  I think that was after the top guys finished but not sure how long that it was - a half, 3 quarters, 4 quarters, etc.?
- Wheaton's only TD came after a fumbled punt return by Wabash (where's Chamblee ) and they got the ball on the 14 yard line and punched it in.
- since Wheaton opens earlier than most years, I am guessing they have been in camp longer than Bash
- Not sure how much Meador (QB) played but I am pleased that he didn't go nuts, he has to be one of the top D3 QB's in the country - sounds like our D played well
- Sounds like Chase got heavy pressure and ran for his life - I'm sure ER is still trying to set our O-line, Wheaton's D front is probably really good, etc.
- Sounds like Hildebrand stood out for the Bash WR's - had a couple of TD's called back on penalties
- Wabash did not have any injuries

Wabash Always Fights!

[matblake]

I don't have great intel on the Wabash/Wheaton scrimmage but have heard bits and pieces.  If anyone attended and could post more details it would be appreciated.  Here is what I have:

- score ended 10-3 Wheaton.  I think that was after the top guys finished but not sure how long that it was - a half, 3 quarters, 4 quarters, etc.?
- Wheaton's only TD came after a fumbled punt return by Wabash (where's Chamblee ) and they got the ball on the 14 yard line and punched it in.
- since Wheaton opens earlier than most years, I am guessing they have been in camp longer than Bash
- Not sure how much Meador (QB) played but I am pleased that he didn't go nuts, he has to be one of the top D3 QB's in the country - sounds like our D played well
- Sounds like Chase got heavy pressure and ran for his life - I'm sure ER is still trying to set our O-line, Wheaton's D front is probably really good, etc.
- Sounds like Hildebrand stood out for the Bash WR's - had a couple of TD's called back on penalties
- Wabash did not have any injuries

Wabash Always Fights!

Thanks for the info.  I like that Wheaton/Wabash does this scrimmage consistently, seems like it has gone on at least for the past 6 to 7 years or so.  Good place to start some evaluation as both teams are on a similar level.

[84]

I don't have great intel on the Wabash/Wheaton scrimmage but have heard bits and pieces.  If anyone attended and could post more details it would be appreciated.  Here is what I have:

- score ended 10-3 Wheaton.  I think that was after the top guys finished but not sure how long that it was - a half, 3 quarters, 4 quarters, etc.?
- Wheaton's only TD came after a fumbled punt return by Wabash (where's Chamblee ) and they got the ball on the 14 yard line and punched it in.
- since Wheaton opens earlier than most years, I am guessing they have been in camp longer than Bash
- Not sure how much Meador (QB) played but I am pleased that he didn't go nuts, he has to be one of the top D3 QB's in the country - sounds like our D played well
- Sounds like Chase got heavy pressure and ran for his life - I'm sure ER is still trying to set our O-line, Wheaton's D front is probably really good, etc.
- Sounds like Hildebrand stood out for the Bash WR's - had a couple of TD's called back on penalties
- Wabash did not have any injuries

Wabash Always Fights!

Thanks for the info.  I like that Wheaton/Wabash does this scrimmage consistently, seems like it has gone on at least for the past 6 to 7 years or so.  Good place to start some evaluation as both teams are on a similar level.

The Wabash/Wheaton scrimmage dates back to the Creighton years. Coach Neathery graduated from Wheaton. I believe that's one of the big reasons why Wabash scrimmages Wheaton. Also, as you pointed out, Wheaton is a very good program so the scrimmage is a good measuring stick for the regular season.

[firstdown]

The Wabash and Wheaton scrimmages actually pre-date Coach Creighton and go back to Coach Carlson.

[sigma one]

Wheaton opens on 8/30 v. Benedictine.  A very early start, and only eight days from the scrimmage.  That would explain why the scrimmage was this far forward. Looked as though they might have been using the scrimmage for game prep.  The format was like a game, but with 12 minute quarters, and the clock not always stopping.  Wabash has been in pads only a few days, and it appears that they were shuttling in a lot of players in the first half, including some freshmen.  Pehaps more of a player evaluation situation for the Little Giants, with more than two weeks before they play on 9/8.                                                                                                                                                  I saw only the first half. QB's were declared off limits.  Both teams seemed usually vanilla on defense.  Certainly not the usual array of Wabash blitzes, so Meador had plenty of time to throw.  Wheaton moved the ball well, usually through the air, but they were stopped several time in the red zone and missed field goals.  I don't know if they were using their regular kicker.  Their TD, as someone has noted, came after a fumbled punt by a Wabash freshman.  Wheaton has big receivers and Meador usually got them the ball.  Wabash's O was ineffective; first two possessions were three and out.  Belton was on the run, and, of course, neither team could use their QB as a runner, which in my estimation deeply limited Wabash's playbook (maybe Wheaton's too; I don't know their offense, though they have often appeared to be a drop-back passing team.)  Meador did seem very mobile.                                                                                                                                                  I don't know Wheaton at all, and so can't say how many players they held out with camp limps and bruises.  Wabash held out quite a few players who would be expected to play in a regular game.  Wabash used several running backs, including a freshman.  To me, it looked obvious that Wheaton had had much more time in camp.  They were sharper.  By the way, this is not to denigrate them, or Wabash.  Wheaton is always a strong scrimmage opponent.  I've always thought the two continue to scrimmage because the time provides a good early measuring stick v. a quality opponent.  Wheaton looked like you would expect a top-tier CCIW team to look.  Wabash looked like they still need work, but with over two more weeks to practice before th first game. . .Raeburn and his staff can still be expected to work their magic with the talent on the roster.                                     

[sigma one]

Um, thinking a bit.  I said I thought Wheaton looked sharp.  I'm guessing that their coaches might not agree.  Despite their ability to move the ball out in the field, they had very little success against the Wabash D down in the red zone, and then missed field goals.

[84]

The Wabash and Wheaton scrimmages actually pre-date Coach Creighton and go back to Coach Carlson.

Learned something new! Have they scrimmaged every year since then?