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bashbrother

"Practice?  You can't talk about Practice"

It is rediculous in my book...

Why should you go for it on 4th down?

"To overcome the disappointment of not making it on third down." -- Washington State Coach Mike Leach

HSCTiger fan

Quote from: bashbrother on August 18, 2014, 03:50:26 PM
First Down, 

As Wally mentioned,  I think Hodges will be literally all over the place in this one.   Can't wait to see this game.

Just took a quick look at Hampden-Sydney's 2013 Roster and If I am seeing it correctly,   if looks as though they graduated the entire offensive line that started for them in their final game against Linfield    This is could very well make it tougher for Nance and Co. to be as productive offensively in game 1,  especially against this Wabash D.   Buresh, AJ Akinribade, HH, McCullen, Woods, Rutter, Wilkins and the rest....  pretty experienced and tough group.   Will certainly be one of the keys to this game.

Wabash has a young OL coming into this season too.  According to the NCAC media guy they replace 3 guys. HSC has 7 returning starters on a top 20 ranked defense from last season.  They will most likely start 6 seniors 4 jrs and 1 Soph - also a very experienced and tough group.  Many of the seniors are starting for the 3rd year in a row.

Games are usually decided down in the trenches. The team that controls the LOS and has fewest TOs usually wins the game. I don't see this game playing out any different.  The HSC OL will be very good as I'm sure Wabash's big boys will be.  The "skilled" guys get the hype but I agree with you that the play of the OL for both teams will be a key to the game.

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bashbrother

Why should you go for it on 4th down?

"To overcome the disappointment of not making it on third down." -- Washington State Coach Mike Leach

bashgiant

Quote from: wally_wabash on August 18, 2014, 08:58:01 PM
The first rule of preseason scrimmage is you don't talk about preseason scrimmage.  The second rule of preseason scrimmage...

Quote from: Dr. Acula on August 18, 2014, 08:44:17 PM
I wonder what the reason is for that rule? 

Amateurism! 

But seriously, these things usually aren't state secrets by the time that last week of camp rolls around.  I'm guessing August 30 is the day, time TBD, and I'll have to go back and check whether or not Wabash or Wheaton hosted last year (I forget). 

In other NCAC scrimmage news, I stumbled across a Hanover @ Hiram scrimmage on Aug. 30 if anybody in the neighborhood wants to get an early peek at the 2014 Terriers.

Wheaton was the host last year, I do remember that.

bashgiant

Quote from: bashbrother on August 18, 2014, 09:33:31 PM
"Practice?  You can't talk about Practice"

It is rediculous in my book...

+ a bunch!


wabashsid

The reason given for the lack of advertising of a scrimmage is the "creep" philosophy. Start by advertising the free scrimmage, then go ahead and a charge a slight fee for entry, then sell concessions, then... The concern is that schools could basically make it an 11th game in many ways, particularly from a finance standpoint.

So to answer your earlier scrimmage questions.... what scrimmage?  ;) However, if Wabash were to host a scrimmage it would have to be free of charge.

wally_wabash

Quote from: bashgiant on August 19, 2014, 04:42:48 AM
Quote from: wally_wabash on August 18, 2014, 08:58:01 PM
The first rule of preseason scrimmage is you don't talk about preseason scrimmage.  The second rule of preseason scrimmage...

Quote from: Dr. Acula on August 18, 2014, 08:44:17 PM
I wonder what the reason is for that rule? 

Amateurism! 

But seriously, these things usually aren't state secrets by the time that last week of camp rolls around.  I'm guessing August 30 is the day, time TBD, and I'll have to go back and check whether or not Wabash or Wheaton hosted last year (I forget). 

In other NCAC scrimmage news, I stumbled across a Hanover @ Hiram scrimmage on Aug. 30 if anybody in the neighborhood wants to get an early peek at the 2014 Terriers.

Wheaton was the host last year, I do remember that.

Ah.  So if you just happen to be on campus on the afternoon of Aug. 30, you might run into a Wabash football practice that just happens to be open to the public...with uniformed referees...and another team.  Just maybe. 
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Li'l Giant

Sorry to go back to the previous topic but ESPN and the MAC just signed a  13 year $100 million dollar deal. They don't get that in FCS. The non P5 schools will be fine.
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cave2bens

Quote from: wally_wabash on August 19, 2014, 09:14:47 AM

Ah.  So if you just happen to be on campus on the afternoon of Aug. 30, you might run into a Wabash football practice that just happens to be open to the public...with uniformed referees...and another team.  Just maybe. 


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wabashsid

I just did some research and it appears the limitation on publicizing a football scrimmage may have been lifted in 2012. If so, look for an addition to the web site over the next few days.

wally_wabash

Quote from: Li'l Giant on August 19, 2014, 10:36:05 AM
Sorry to go back to the previous topic but ESPN and the MAC just signed a  13 year $100 million dollar deal. They don't get that in FCS. The non P5 schools will be fine.

Tuesday night MAC-tion! 
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ExTartanPlayer

Quote from: Li'l Giant on August 19, 2014, 10:36:05 AM
Sorry to go back to the previous topic but ESPN and the MAC just signed a  13 year $100 million dollar deal. They don't get that in FCS. The non P5 schools will be fine.

OK, $100 million sounds like a lot. In a vacuum, that's a big number!

But, my calculations say that 13-year, $100 million dollar deal comes out to $7.5-ish million per year.  Nice change for the conference, sure.

According to CBS Sports, it estimated that the SEC's combined television deal with ESPN and CBS is worth around $400 million annually.

The non-P5 schools are still working with a football budget an awful lot closer to the FCS schools' budget than to the P5 schools' budget, and they have to do weird stuff like play on Tuesday nights (academics, anyone? I'm supposed to believe those kids on the road team attend class on Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday of that week?) to get the scraps from ESPN that they do have.  The individual school's payout from that TV contract is going to be about $600K yearly.  They can raise more money than that on their own (currently) with two yearly guarantee games.
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sigma one

#28393
Would be just like the NCAA to change the scrimmage rule with such transparency that not even an SID would know.  Sorry if I misled, if indeed the rule is now different.  I need a 2014 NCAA DIII manual to stay up to date. 

tigerfanalso

MAC would be much better off doing away with Tuesday night football and the TV contract and play two slaughter games against Big 10 teams. Money would be better and they might have more than 1500 people attending the games. The games I've seen on Tuesday's are so poorly attended it makes me wonder why they are willing to play on Tuesday nights.