FB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[Li'l Giant]

For guys who held a 7-0 lead on mighty Kenyon at halftime Saturday, you fellers are mighty giddy.

The mighty Kenyon we've never lost to in NCAC play? Have y'all lost to Kenyon in conference play? Oh yeah, y'all have.

[wally_wabash]

For guys who held a 7-0 lead on mighty Kenyon at halftime Saturday, you fellers are mighty giddy.

7-0...also the same differential that Wabash is about to enjoy in the series record. 

[Pat Coleman]

Gonna be a fun few weeks here, isn't it?   

I don't think sigma one is saying a whole lot other than DePauw has some good players now (this is true) and they're not the awful bunch we've seen over the last 3-4 years (side bar- I don't think last year's group was awful, just green.  They're less so now, and it shows).  DePauw has a pretty good team.  No harm in seeing that and saying that. 

If both Wabash and DPU are ranked after Week 10, will this be the first time that both have been ranked in the Top 25 when facing off for the Monon Bell?

Johnny Here-And-Now mentioned 1981 (say hello to President Kerstetter for us).  Definitely the first time in the D3football.com Top 25 era.  IF they can make it.  #TwentySix

The only time DePauw has been ranked going into the Bell game in the D3football.com Top 25 era was 2010 and...welp.

You asked a history question -- given the hours (and sanity) I lost doing the Monon Memories, I have it handy.  In '81, W was #4 (with 24 straight games without a loss) and D was #9.  That's back in the day when only 8 teams went to the playoffs and we both got screwed. And for the record, Dick Rosser was president.

Also important to say (again, as we both have) that the polls have holes.  See 2008 and, as you note, 2010 as recent examples.

Unfortunately for them they're in the lowly NCAC and they're colors aren't red and white.
If only DePauw was in the OAC, then they would definitely be ranked and probably ranked very high.

Relax about the Top 25 poll. You guys have played one team that's in the Top 100. Here's where DePauw's schedule rates so far:

220 DePauw   6-0   1.000   .2500 (227)   .5492   0.350

That's 220th out of 233 teams. (NESCAC and provisional members not included.) You can't possibly play a schedule that bad and also be in the OAC.

[Desertraider]

DePauw can't even get ranked.

Hashtag Twenty Six.

Unfortunately for them they're in the lowly NCAC and they're colors aren't red and white.
If only DePauw was in the OAC, then they would definitely be ranked and probably ranked very high.

No they wouldn't. They wouldn't be undefeated either. Just sayin-

[wabco]

1837 ..... that is why the game has 4 quarters.  Ding Ding !  My next question:  Do Dannies flee and abandon their own stadium at the beginning of the 3rd quarter just like they do when they are visitors?  And follow up:  Is that flight action inbred or learned?

[SaintsFAN]

DePauw can't even get ranked.

Hashtag Twenty Six.

Unfortunately for them they're in the lowly NCAC and they're colors aren't red and white.
If only DePauw was in the OAC, then they would definitely be ranked and probably ranked very high.

No they wouldn't. They wouldn't be undefeated either. Just sayin-

They COULD be undefeated at this point, if they didn't have Mount Union on the schedule until late in the year.  It's been mentioned in a few places that they bottom half of the OAC is comparable to the bottom half of the NCAC. 

IF they were unbeaten still in the OAC, they'd be ranked inside the top 15.

[Li'l Giant]

I'm assuming DePauw will be ranked next week with TLU playing UMHB and Whitworth playing Linfield. I don't see both of those upsets happening.

[jknezek]

I'm assuming DePauw will be ranked next week with TLU playing UMHB and Whitworth playing Linfield. I don't see both of those upsets happening.

That's the sticky wicket. These teams shouldn't need upsets to stay in the poll. They just need to not get hammered. Although sadly that's not how polls generally work. And I wouldn't put it past them both to get hammered...

[bashbrother]

#26 Depauw Tiger highlights from a recent game at Case Western Reserve  (apologies to CWRU,  uniforms just look too similar and I know you have bigger players than that.)

https://youtu.be/2GgxuECxLSQ

[wally_wabash]

I'm assuming DePauw will be ranked next week with TLU playing UMHB and Whitworth playing Linfield. I don't see both of those upsets happening.

And they have to beat OWU, which they didn't do last year. 

Interesting factoid:  OWU- also a team Wabash has not lost to in the NCAC era. 

#TwentySix

[Pat Coleman]

They COULD be undefeated at this point, if they didn't have Mount Union on the schedule until late in the year.  It's been mentioned in a few places that they bottom half of the OAC is comparable to the bottom half of the NCAC. 

I don't think that it is, though.

Allegheny vs. Muskingum
Hiram vs. Wilmington
Wooster vs. Marietta
Kenyon vs. Capital
Ohio Wesleyan vs. Heidelberg

Still give me the group on the right.

Instead, if DePauw had beaten Earlham (still, ouch), Marietta, Wilmington Capital and Muskingum, would that have made a difference? Playing Wittenberg was better for their ranking than playing the OAC No. 3, currently Otterbein or Baldwin Wallace. Probably similar if you consider Ohio Northern to be the OAC No. 3.

[wally_wabash]

They COULD be undefeated at this point, if they didn't have Mount Union on the schedule until late in the year.  It's been mentioned in a few places that they bottom half of the OAC is comparable to the bottom half of the NCAC. 

I don't think that it is, though.

Allegheny vs. Muskingum
Hiram vs. Wilmington
Wooster vs. Marietta
Kenyon vs. Capital
Ohio Wesleyan vs. Heidelberg

Still give me the group on the right.

Instead, if DePauw had beaten Earlham (still, ouch), Marietta, Wilmington Capital and Muskingum, would that have made a difference? Playing Wittenberg was better for their ranking than playing the OAC No. 3, currently Otterbein or Baldwin Wallace. Probably similar if you consider Ohio Northern to be the OAC No. 3.

When you look at it carefully as you've done, no, it doesn't help.  If you just redact the team name and say "here's a 6-0 OAC team that isn't Mount Union and they have the 220th ranked SOS", some people might just plop them down in the top 15 on general principle even though they haven't done anything except exist in a conference with Mount Union. 

[smedindy]

Wally's always salty about Heidelberg...even in coded references.

[sigma one]

Congratulations to Mason Zurek for being named the NCAC offensive player of the week.  His stats:  194 yds on 15 carries, for an average of 12.9 yds/carry.  As a sidebar:  His yds/carry is the 3rd best in Wabash history behind Chris Morris (12 for 205 and 17.1, in 2002, also against Kenyon) and Chris Stewart (13 for 195 and 15.0 in 1997).  Pretty impressive. 

[wally_wabash]

Congratulations to Mason Zurek for being named the NCAC offensive player of the week.  His stats:  194 yds on 15 carries, for an average of 12.9 yds/carry.  As a sidebar:  His yds/carry is the 3rd best in Wabash history behind Chris Morris (12 for 205 and 17.1, in 2002, also against Kenyon) and Chris Stewart (13 for 195 and 15.0 in 1997).  Pretty impressive.

Not bad for a big, slow guy.   

(not a reference to anything anybody has said here...rather a reference to every broadcast from every away game Wabash has played with Zurek on the roster)