FB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[wally_wabash]

I have baked several pies and they are in the freezer.....I have also roofed the house.....rotated my tires, changed the oil......saved a couple of lives.....and am now in the kitchen with printouts of Woo and Bash cumulative stats, NCAA stats through 10/21, schedules and results on both teams....so I can intelligently converse with you noodle heads! 8)

Pies, cars, and stats....wow.  Have you been reading my diary, Lass?   

How can you say that Wooster has not faced an offense like Wabash?  Last week's national rankings had Allegheny at #8 in the country in total offense and Wabash at #11?  Sounds comparable to me.

Statistically, the two offenses are really about equal.  Having seen them both in person, I don't think they're quite the same.  Wabash is going to throw a little more size and speed, particularly at the receiver position, at Wooster than what the Scots saw against Allegheny.  I think the two offenses are different animals. 

[BashBacker#16]

LG66,

I agree that Watson is a heck of a player.  My question:  what has he done in his previous Wabash games?  Not much.  Not to say that he won't but I would be much more worried if Bash were weak at their OTs, they are not.  Millikan & Hilts should do OK.

Wally - agree with you on the Gheny comparison.  I didn't realize they were that far up there, makes me feel better for their game on November 4    Who do they play again?   

I think the question in this matchup is the Woo O vs. the Bash D.  The Bash D has played much better and seem to be improving each week.  They are pretty solid against the rush making teams earn 3.3 ypc.  I think Reiff and/or Shafer may be forced to make plays for 4 quarters.  As it has been said, if Wooster gets down, it could spell trouble for the Scots.  Just my 2 cents.

[BashBacker#16]

Wooster's preview is out for this weekend...

http://athletics.wooster.edu/this_week/archives/2006-07/10-23-06.pdf

[woosterbooster]

I expected no better from you guys.......whiners! 

Hah.  Nice try.  But surely you were trying to spell winners, right?

[ScotLass]

Side by Side Factual Comparison through 10/21

            Woo      Bash

Total Offense/Ranking      2296/85th     3035/10th
Rushing Offense/Ranking      1166/57th    1013/88th
Passing Offense/Ranking      1130/125th               2022/8th
Scoring Offense Ranking      41st        8th


Total Defense Ranking      19th      194th
Rushing Defense Ranking      15th                         98th
Pass Defense         41st                    197th
Scoring Defense Ranking      27th      176th

Kick Off Returns         31st      92nd
Punt Returns         74th      202nd

3rd down conv %         48%      43%
4th down conv %         56%      69%

Fumbles-Lost         12/8      5/3
Penalties-Yards         52/473                 40/388

Red-Zone scores         86%      84%
PATs            96%                         89%

Conclusion:

There is no clear favorite IMO. Offensively, Bash has a passing advantage....as long as Woo can't defend it AND as long as rainy weather doesn't impact the passing game. However, Bash relies heavily on the pass (2/1) while Woo spreads it 50/50. There is no comparison defensively, Woo wins that hands down. Special teams can make a real difference....as Woo already has. Woo must hold onto the ball and avoid penalties. And of course, home field advantage will play a role.

I just love charts and graphs...

[Superfoot Wallace]

The no comparison defensively doesnt hold soooo  much water.  Wabashs one game with Franklin inflated that stat alone.  The game against Millikin put them up against one of the top five backs in division three over the last three years cumulatively, not to mention that offense of Witts with Murray that would make Cooper proud.

Wooster has played some quality opponents as well, the one in common really loooking like a wash as I said earlier, but these teams werent dynamos offensively.  What if they had played everybodys cinderella from the OAC BW? 

Really think the surefire winning gameplan for Wabash is to pound the rock.  If the combined score is under 31 Ill take Woo, over take Bash.  Running the ball wont freeze the Bash offense, might provide some nice playaction, counter boot and waggle opportunities that arent so much the hole card of the run n shoot and the spread.

For Wooster to win they must play lights out defense.   Minus the nandrolone of course.  Almost want to put that under at 13, but have more faith in the Bash offense than that, so 31 seems credible.  Theyll need a Frank Beameresque type night.  Defensive or special teams scoring and enough offense to give their d a blow.

Really dont know what to think about Woo, not having seen too much of their version of the oneback.  Anybody care to answer what the hell a J back is in the Bash offense.  Expect the analysis offered for a Bash win is what Woo does from their base oneback.

best regards,
Heisman Week Baybee

Get them boys back in the weightroom leading up to Allegheny, get in Oberlins craw and back a workday up behind this Saturdays game to freshen them legs up by next weeks end.  The guys know what they have to do to accomplish their personal goals in the classroom, its imperative that they as a unit assess their group goal for the field and GATA.

Bzz...  Bzzzz..

[wally_wabash]

The J-back, and I'm not nearly as Xs and Os refined as you are MacLeod, functions as a fullback, tight end, and slot receiver depending on the formation so far as I can tell.  As far as I can tell it's about the same deal as the H-back that Carlson used to use, except Creighton involves the J a little more in the short/intermediate passing game.  Not sure if that helps, but that's the best explanation I can give. 

And seriously ScotLass, you keep spewing stats like that and I might propose. 

[ScotLass]

The no comparison defensively doesnt hold soooo  much water.  Wabashs one game with Franklin inflated that stat alone.  The game against Millikin put them up against one of the top five backs in division three over the last three years cumulatively, not to mention that offense of Witts with Murray that would make Cooper proud.

MacLeod:

You disappoint me, all that is like saying....we would have won if they hadn't beat us!

[chillydigits]

And seriously ScotLass, you keep spewing stats like that and I might propose. 

HOLY MOSES is it raining locusts??.... WALLY what has the world come too?? , I would think just talking about proposing to a ScotLass could be grounds for expulsion from the Wabash Alumni Association..

[Li'l Giant]

And seriously ScotLass, you keep spewing stats like that and I might propose.

HOLY MOSES is it raining locusts??.... WALLY what has the world come too?? , I would think just talking about proposing to a ScotLass could be grounds for expulsion from the Wabash Alumni Association..

No, but proposing to Darkside might. 

[chillydigits]

No, but proposing to Darkside might. 

:)Wouldn't proposing to Darkside D require something stiffer? Like having your name permanently exspunged from all records, files and such at Wabash?

[uknowme2]

I'm not sure all this proposing talk is a good thing.  Just what would a Bash backer and a  Scot backer create in terms of offspring.  I don't even want to imagine.

GO TIGERS!!!

[Li'l Giant]

I'm not sure all this proposing talk is a good thing.  Just what would a Bash backer and a  Scot backer create in terms of offspring.  I don't even want to imagine.

GO TIGERS!!!

Something that wears red and black and really, really, really hates Witt. 

[woosterbooster]

Probably wasn't a marriage proposal anyway.  Just a request that she keep him supplied indefinitely with stats and pies.  Who could ask for more than that?

[uknowme2]

I'm not sure all this proposing talk is a good thing.  Just what would a Bash backer and a  Scot backer create in terms of offspring.  I don't even want to imagine.

GO TIGERS!!!

Something that wears red and black and really, really, really hates Witt. 

That's what I thought, and that's why I didn't want to imagine it!

GO TIGERS!!!