FB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[DagarmanSpartan]

What you guys described sounds similar to what happened to Case Western Reserve in 1984.

That season, the Spartans were a perfect 9-0, and were champions of the NCAC, but were snubbed by the selection committee.

[fijidoc]

thanks for your comments Pat.

I will stop being mr. negative.  Drink the cool aid.  Believe we will finish 9-1 and get that at large bid.

This coming week will be just as tough.  On the road at Wooster, without Hudson, Wooster believing that if they can win out they will get conference automatic bid so that will give them even more incentive(as if they needed it with Wabash coming to town).

Really need Depauw to win out going into the Bell game to help our victory over them look that much more impressive. 

WABASH ALWAYS FIGHTS!!!

[D3_DPUFan]

Really need Depauw to win out going into the Bell game to help our victory over them look that much more impressive. 

[cave2bens]

Wabco on Grunge?  "Oh my eyes,  my eyes..."    

http://www2.wabash.edu/blog/alumni/


Faithfully submitted,

Douglas C. Niedermeyer

[DPU3619]

Really need Depauw to win out going into the Bell game to help our victory over them look that much more impressive. 

I've seen a few people try to justify yesterday's loss by marking that down as a win.  Whatever helps you sleep at night, I guess.   

[jam40jeff]

The best way to insure a "C" is to go 9-1. No ifs ands or buts.

Don't let a shady salesman sell you insurance on a Pool C bid! 

[jam40jeff]

I'm sure this is a novice-type question, but here goes.  If Wabash beats Wooster, but Wooster turns around and beats Wittenberg, how is the football love traingle resolved?  And if it is resolved by overall record, how would it have been resolved if all 3 teams had ended up 9-1?

[cave2bens]

I'm sure this is a novice-type question, but here goes.  If Wabash beats Wooster, but Wooster turns around and beats Wittenberg, how is the football love traingle resolved?  And if it is resolved by overall record, how would it have been resolved if all 3 teams had ended up 9-1?

COW can't end up 9-1 as they've already had losses to Waynesburg and CWRU 

[smedindy]

I'm sure this is a novice-type question, but here goes.  If Wabash beats Wooster, but Wooster turns around and beats Wittenberg, how is the football love traingle resolved?  And if it is resolved by overall record, how would it have been resolved if all 3 teams had ended up 9-1?

I believe the "Rose Bowl Rule" goes into effect - and Wittenberg would get the nod since they have been farthest removed from representing the NCAC in the playoffs.

I could be wrong - the smoke filled rooms (no, wait, this is the NCAC) - the brie filled rooms may have another choice. 

[jam40jeff]

I'm sure this is a novice-type question, but here goes.  If Wabash beats Wooster, but Wooster turns around and beats Wittenberg, how is the football love traingle resolved?  And if it is resolved by overall record, how would it have been resolved if all 3 teams had ended up 9-1?

COW can't end up 9-1 as they've already had losses to Waynesburg and CWRU 

I know, that's why I said "how would it have been resolved if" for the last part.

[jam40jeff]

I'm sure this is a novice-type question, but here goes.  If Wabash beats Wooster, but Wooster turns around and beats Wittenberg, how is the football love traingle resolved?  And if it is resolved by overall record, how would it have been resolved if all 3 teams had ended up 9-1?

I believe the "Rose Bowl Rule" goes into effect - and Wittenberg would get the nod since they have been farthest removed from representing the NCAC in the playoffs.

I could be wrong - the smoke filled rooms (no, wait, this is the NCAC) - the brie filled rooms may have another choice. 

Ha, if there's wine to go with that brie, it'd be much preferable to a smoke-filled room.

[fijidoc]

not trying to upset any depauw supporters by putting the Bell game in the win column.  Also not trying to justify loss by assuming we will beat Depauw now because of that loss.  We just know that is only way to get into playoffs which has not been true in the past.

There is a huge difference now though compared to years past.  We don't have the luxury now of an automatic bid into the playoffs.  The absolute only way we can get in is to win out and that means two tough teams Wooster and Depauw to go.  The last few years we had won the conference and knew we were in the playoffs and unfortunately I think that has hurt us in the Bell game.  So much is put into winning the conference that it is a let down time before the playoffs.  Now I am not saying that is why we lost those games.  We lost those games because Depauw flat out beat our ass and had the better team on the field that day.

I hope not haveing the automatic bid will now give us even more to play for in the Bell game than usual.  Before Creighton came to town the Bell game was the be all end all, heck that is what cost Carlson his job, the inability to win that game.  But once we started going to the playoffs our expectations became higher and I think that cost us some in the Bell game.  For Depauw it was their playoffs and for us it was the Bell game but we still had more to play for and we knew that.  This year The Bell game could possibly be a playoff, win and you play on, lose and season is done.  If that isn't motivation for this team then I don't know what is.

[cave2bens]

I'm sure this is a novice-type question, but here goes.  If Wabash beats Wooster, but Wooster turns around and beats Wittenberg, how is the football love traingle resolved?  And if it is resolved by overall record, how would it have been resolved if all 3 teams had ended up 9-1?

COW can't end up 9-1 as they've already had losses to Waynesburg and CWRU 

I know, that's why I said "how would it have been resolved if" for the last part.

My bad, Jam.  Time to "windex" the smudges on the bifocals - again...

[jam40jeff]

I'm sure this is a novice-type question, but here goes.  If Wabash beats Wooster, but Wooster turns around and beats Wittenberg, how is the football love traingle resolved?  And if it is resolved by overall record, how would it have been resolved if all 3 teams had ended up 9-1?

COW can't end up 9-1 as they've already had losses to Waynesburg and CWRU 

I know, that's why I said "how would it have been resolved if" for the last part.

My bad, Jam.  Time to "windex" the smudges on the bifocals - again...

No problem.  I was at the CWRU/Wooster game, so I of course knew that we beat them.   By the way, the new turf/lights made for a nice atmosphere there for the night game.

[Schwami]

Here you go in case the link doesn't work.....I suggest a little Maalox and 2 Tylenol before reading this....

• "1. Head-to-Head result(s) between tied teams."

• "2. Result(s) versus individual opponents examined in descending order, individually, until tie is broken. The tied teams must have a common opponent in order for the result to be considered; if not a common opponent, move to the next team in the standings. The first team to have beaten a higher-ranked team that is a common opponent wins the tiebreaker.

"If the tie is not broken in the descending order review, start from the bottom of the standings and examine opponents in ascending order. The first team to have lost to a lower-ranked team loses the tiebreaker (no common opponent provision in ascending review)."

• "3. The team with the fewest losses in conference away games."

• "4. The team with the higher preseason power ranking used to determine conference schedule. This provision would not apply if a tiebreaker had been used to separate the teams in final power ranking."

"5. The team with the longest active winning streak in conference play at the end of the season."

"6. The team that has not participated in the NCAA playoffs for the longest period of years ("Rose Bowl rule")."

"7. Coin Toss. When three or more teams are tied, the same procedure shall be followed until one team is eliminated. The process shall then be repeated until one team emerges.

This is the NCAC tie breaker rule (unless it has changed since 2006).  It is unlikely that a tie would be broken by the Rose Bowl rule.  If it were decided by the Rose Bowl rule, then either Allegheny (2003 champ - don't forget about them!) or Woo (2004 champ) would go before Witt (2006) or Wabash (2008).

Edit - should also note that Kenyon can finish with one loss - on paper their stiffest remaining test is this Saturday at home against Allegheny.