FB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[Li'l Giant]

The Neal Fieldhouse (basketball) is named after that team's head coach, Raymond "Gaumey" Neal.

Wabash Class of 1920, by the way.

[formerd3db]

Wes A and Ryan T:

Yes, that is pretty neat to see.  Still an accomplishment after almost 80 years.  Also, I guess Ball State wasn't like a typical MAC team that year either!

BTW, since we're on the topic of college football history, in that same era, it is interesting that Hillsdale beat the University of Chicago in 1931 and that was still a Stagg coached team in the Big Ten.  Although U of C wasn't doing that well in the Big Ten by that time, it was still the Big Ten and Hillsdale in the MIAA. 

[ADL70]

Witt really gets hurt in SoS by playing two non-regional UAA teams. 

To expand on this, if those UAA games counted, it would have helped Witt's SoS.  What really hurts them is playing Olivet.

[WashUDad]

Witt really gets hurt in SoS by playing two non-regional UAA teams. 

To expand on this, if those UAA games counted, it would have helped Witt's SoS.  What really hurts them is playing Olivet.

Woo Hoo Go UAA!!

[fantastic50]

In 1933, DePauw went 7-0 and defeated Wabash in the last game (that was the photo I was referring to).  They also beat Ball State that year.  

The '33 DePauw team is the last team in any division to go undefeated without a tie while surrending no points.

10/7 Ball State W 9-0
10/14 Earlham W 28-0
10/21 Manchester W 13-0
10/28 Hanover W 12-0
11/4 Franklin W 26-0
11/11 Evansville W 34-0
11/18 Wabash W 14-0

The Neal Fieldhouse (basketball) is named after that team's head coach, Raymond "Gaumey" Neal.

If you're looking only at regular-season games, the 1938 Duke team did that.  They gave up their first points in the final minute of the Rose Bowl, losing to USC 7-3.  I believe that a Tennessee team in the same era also shut out every opponent during the regular season.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Yeah, but I defy anyone to find a FIVE year record like Fielding Yost's Wolverines from 1901-1905 :

Record: 55-1-1   Points for: 2821   Points against: 42

The streak included 1901 (11-0, 550-0) and 1905 (12-1, 495-2); in other words, the ONLY game they lost in 5 years was a 2-0 defeat!

[Contrary to rumor, I wasn't at any of the games. ]

[formerd3db]

Neat additional info there, Wes.

Also, great historical stats, Mr. Ypsi!  Yes, those were some amazing teams Yost had.  In that stretch, Michigan beat Albion 50-0 in 1901 and then 88-0 in 1902.  That 2-0 loss in 1905 was to the Univ. of Chicago under A.A. Stagg.  I'm sure you know this, but Michigan also beat Eastern Michigan during that span as well, in 1903.

BTW, the year U of Michigan had that unbelievable 550-0 scoring in 1901 as you mentioned, another team in the state (of Michigan) had a very powerful team and that was Olivet College, believe it or not.  They went undefeated also with a record of 9-0 playing against some other decent college teams in the state that year in the MIAA (albeit the small colleges).  Still, an amazing feet.  Love those old uniforms in the photos of all the above mentioned teams!

Thanks for the history.

[wally world]

Wabash has certainly had that level of success in the North Coast era, and went on to lose two Bell games at 9-0. 

Hopefully, Wabash can return the favor and put a blemish on DePauw's heretofore perfect season. Looking forward to the matchup.

Wes conveniently left out that two 9-0 Wabash teams also won Bell games to move to 10-0 within the last ten years.

The unscored-upon Tiger squad from the 30's is impressive. Nice piece of history.

Also part of history was the 1921-26 streak of Wabash-DePauw matchups. In that span, Wabash won all six by a combined score of 119-0. Thanks, Wabash Media Guide!

And I know all Wabash men know this, but Mr. Ypsi might find it very interesting that Wabash faced Notre Dame a number of times, winning only once in 1905 by a score of 5-0 in South Bend. Notre Dame would not lose again at home until..........................1928!

[cave2bens]

Yeah, but I defy anyone to find a FIVE year record like Fielding Yost's Wolverines from 1901-1905 :

Record: 55-1-1   Points for: 2821   Points against: 42

The streak included 1901 (11-0, 550-0) and 1905 (12-1, 495-2); in other words, the ONLY game they lost in 5 years was a 2-0 defeat!

[Contrary to rumor, I wasn't at any of the games. ]

Given this board, it's appropriate to note that 28 of those 57 games were played against current D3 schools including a very lengthy series with Case Institute of Technology 

[1837Tigers]

Let's not overlook the '43 DePauw team, which allowed but one score all season and had the USA's leading rusher (albeit a ringer, Bob Steuber, who had played for the Chicago Bears earlier that season):

http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=19445

   1943 (5-0-1)          
9/25    Oberlin    T    0    0
10/2    Illinois Normal    W    50    0
10/9    Indiana State    W    39    6
10/16    Wabash    W    33    0
10/30    Ohio Wesleyan    W    42    0
11/6    Fort Knox    W    42    0

[Schwami]

Kenyon is outstanding in getting its opponents called for penalties - averaging 89.8 yards per game (a whopping lead over the next most penalized against team in the NCAC - Denison - at 66.6 yards per game).

Meanwhile, Wabash and Witt are the two least successful teams in drawing penalties from their opponents, at 41.8 yards per game (Wabash) and 49.6 yards per game (Witt).

They must be doing something right at Kenyon!   

Or, is there some substance to the paranoia of the Wabash faithful that Wabash (and, OK, maybe Witt too) receives unfair treatment from the officials ?? 

Not only is Wabash the most penalized team in the NCAC, but also it is the team whose opponents are penalized the least.   

[wally_wabash]

Kenyon is outstanding in getting its opponents called for penalties - averaging 89.8 yards per game (a whopping lead over the next most penalized against team in the NCAC - Denison - at 66.6 yards per game).

Meanwhile, Wabash and Witt are the two least successful teams in drawing penalties from their opponents, at 41.8 yards per game (Wabash) and 49.6 yards per game (Witt).

They must be doing something right at Kenyon!   

Or, is there some substance to the paranoia of the Wabash faithful that Wabash (and, OK, maybe Witt too) receives unfair treatment from the officials ?? 

Not only is Wabash the most penalized team in the NCAC, but also it is the team whose opponents are penalized the least.   

I don't know if it's fair to say that a team is good at "drawing penalties".  I don't think you really induce penalties in football the same way that you can force a foul in basketball. 

Huzzah for Kenyon's penalty stats...but Kenyon is about 11 days away from being 0-10.  Worth it?  Probably not. 

I would hope that there isn't paranoia about unfair treatment from officials.  I certainly don't believe Wabash is getting treated unfairly.  Wabash is the most penalized team in the league because Wabash commits the most penalties.  Our game officials are what they are...some are good, some are not as good, some are pretty bad.  Sometimes they miss a call here and there, sometimes they get a call completely wrong...but I don't think they're out to get anybody.  Except maybe for the guy that tossed Kolisek...that wasn't necessary.   

[bashbrother]

Very true Wally, 

Most penalties are pretty straight forward and even an attentive fan could throw the flag, and the ones that are not as pronounced probably wash out during the coarse of the game.

The only exceptions in my mind would be the more subjective calls.

Holding
Pass interference
Personal Fouls

These are all the "big ones" and ones that can change the flow of a game.

I had a friend who was an SEC Football Official tell me once that "there is offensive holding on almost every play."  Some holds are just worse then others.

Like Wally said, Wabash has as many penalties as they have because they have committed that many.  They need to stop it to win the next two weeks.

[ExTartanPlayer]

I had a friend who was an SEC Football Official tell me once that "there is offensive holding on almost every play."  Some holds are just worse then others.

As a former undersized tackle (5'11" and 235ish in junior/senior year of college) with so-so footwork and short arms, I can vouch for this.

[wally_wabash]

I'd be happy to never hear a fan in the stands get up and yell at the game officials for either calling a hold or not calling a hold. 

Myth: your team always gets held, but never ever holds
Fact:  everybody holds all of the time and your team is getting away with it way more than they are getting called for it, even if you think your team is getting called for it all of the time 

I'm making November "Stop Hollaring About Holding Because You're Embarrassing Yourself" Awareness Month.  Ribbon color: penalty flag yellow.