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nike

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Quote from: aueagle on November 16, 2010, 09:36:10 PM
GREENSBORO, N.C. (11/15/10) – Guilford College Athletic Director Tom Palombo announced Monday that head football coach Kevin Kiesel will not return next year. Kiesel's teams compiled a 24-36 overall record in six seasons, including an 0-10 mark in 2010.
Palombo has launched a national search to find Kiesel's replacement. Guilford's assistant football coaches will share in the administration of the program until a new head coach is named.
                                       and so it starts...End of the season and heads roll.....
nike: You asked if "H" is safe at OWU, but got no response. I think Prez Rock, AD, The "W" Association top people and some "others" will take a hard look at the situation. We had the poll of NCAC D3 just a few weeks ago...it was a landslide. Do you think COW, Witt, Gheny or Wabash would keep a "H" record in their program? And the last time I looked at the NCAC stats, Hiram was at the bottom of most of them, so, how much better were they? They were more exciting, but, in the end...still Puppies.

One thing Hiram has done is replace coaches quickly if they do not work out.  I think this was the current coach's first year and they have had others recently that were only there one or two years.
Hiram is a very small school numbers wise and their campus, while attractive, is not as large and developed as Wooster or OWU.  (Actually visited there with two of my kids when they were looking at schools).  Certainly not the athletic facilities.  I would think it would be very hard to recruit there.  But Hiram did put points on the board this year.  Do not really follow how well the other sports do there.  Wooster and OWU are different and I cannot figure out why schools like OWU and Kenyon  don't have consistently competetive programs, other than for the people in charge.  If the higher ups at OWU are indeed evaluating the the football program, it can't make them happy that the Bishop's two victories were over teams with a combined record of 1-19.  Of course, I thought that Hiram would beat OWU.  Did not know Espinosa would throw for 500 yards.  He is a big kid and just a freshman.  Where was he all year?  Oh, I guess he did throw for over 2000 yards.  Do not remember seeing much of him at Selby under the lights.  You got good receivers--just get a running game and you will be O.K.  An oversimplification, I am sure.
 

wally_wabash

Espinosa threw for a ton of yards against Wabash as well.  He'll be around for a while...or at least until he's a junior and OWU is 1-4.  Then he'll be holding a clipboard and rooting for whatever freshman the Bishops have turned to at that point. 
"Nothing in the world is more expensive than free."- The Deacon of HBO's The Wire

nike

Quote from: wally_wabash on November 17, 2010, 11:28:34 AM
Espinosa threw for a ton of yards against Wabash as well.  He'll be around for a while...or at least until he's a junior and OWU is 1-4.  Then he'll be holding a clipboard and rooting for whatever freshman the Bishops have turned to at that point. 

Ouch!

The_Bishop

Quote from: wally_wabash on November 17, 2010, 11:28:34 AM
Espinosa threw for a ton of yards against Wabash as well.  He'll be around for a while...or at least until he's a junior and OWU is 1-4.  Then he'll be holding a clipboard and rooting for whatever freshman the Bishops have turned to at that point. 

Nice one, Wally.  Keep the disrespect coming.
"If we chase perfection - we can catch excellence."  --Vince Lombardi

wally_wabash

Quote from: The_Bishop on November 17, 2010, 02:03:30 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on November 17, 2010, 11:28:34 AM
Espinosa threw for a ton of yards against Wabash as well.  He'll be around for a while...or at least until he's a junior and OWU is 1-4.  Then he'll be holding a clipboard and rooting for whatever freshman the Bishops have turned to at that point. 

Nice one, Wally.  Keep the disrespect coming.

No disrespect intended.  Just extrapolating the pattern that has been laid out recently.  I hope I'm wrong, FWIW.  I hope OWU gets some sizzle injected back into that program.  I hope they have the patience to stick with this group of young players and develop them into solid, experienced players.  If they can, OWU could be pretty good by 2012...and if that happens, along with the addition of DePauw that season, all of a sudden we've got ourselves a pretty damn good looking league.  But it's up to H (or whoever is in charge) to do an about face and get it done. 
"Nothing in the world is more expensive than free."- The Deacon of HBO's The Wire

The_Bishop

I guess we'll see what happens between now and September 4th when the Bishops open up at home with Denison.  Between the time and effort each individual puts in the weight room next semester and this summer, to recruiting what will hopefully be another solid class, I'm hopeful that brighter days for the program are just around the corner.
"If we chase perfection - we can catch excellence."  --Vince Lombardi

WallyFS4

I'm sure this has been addressed.  Why is Witt a 5 seed, & DePauw is a 3?  Doesn't make since to me.  Sorry if this has been talked about, but I don't get a chance to visit here very often.

WAF

nike

Was Espinosa the starter at the beginning of the season, did someone get hurt or did he beat someone out after the season started?  Barnes was the starter from day one here.
Did not see much of Espinosa when Wooster played at Selby this year.  If OWU gets some defense and a running game other than your qb, the Bishops could make some noise.   Is the wing-T scrapped for good now or just in hibernation?
Would love to see all conference games match the excitement of the Wooster-Witt game or even the Witt-Wabash game.
With the possibility of a championship on the line the last game of the season, 4000 vocal fans and Papp hot dogs, I'll take that.  A very good year!

The_Bishop

Quote from: nike on November 17, 2010, 04:21:16 PM
Was Espinosa the starter at the beginning of the season, did someone get hurt or did he beat someone out after the season started?  Barnes was the starter from day one here.
Did not see much of Espinosa when Wooster played at Selby this year.  If OWU gets some defense and a running game other than your qb, the Bishops could make some noise.   Is the wing-T scrapped for good now or just in hibernation?
Would love to see all conference games match the excitement of the Wooster-Witt game or even the Witt-Wabash game.
With the possibility of a championship on the line the last game of the season, 4000 vocal fans and Papp hot dogs, I'll take that.  A very good year!

I'm pretty sure he started at the beginning of the season but they for a few games they rotated QB's.  I'm not sure when that stopped but I want to say it was around the mid-point of the season.

Good question about the Wing-T.  By the remarks the color guys for the OWU streaming video made during the Hiram game, it sounds like spread offense is the new scheme.
"If we chase perfection - we can catch excellence."  --Vince Lombardi

wally_wabash

Quote from: WallyFS4 on November 17, 2010, 03:23:01 PM
I'm sure this has been addressed.  Why is Witt a 5 seed, & DePauw is a 3?  Doesn't make since to me.  Sorry if this has been talked about, but I don't get a chance to visit here very often.

WAF

Strength of schedule.  This year's committee decided that the SOS metric that the NCAA uses would be the end-all measure of the teams' relative strength...even to the point of ignoring a regional loss and results against common opponents, which are also primary criteria.  Interestingly enough, Wittenberg's SOS would have been helped out a good deal if that metric would have included their games against WashU and and CMU.  Also interesting to note is that while the committee seemed to rely almost exclusively on that SOS metric even to the point of ignoring an extra loss here and there, they didn't seem to apply that logic to Wabash's Pool C case.  Interesting still, the committee ignored Witt's non-regional games, but absolutely did consider Wabash's non-regional game.  So the application of the criteria was very obviously different for different teams...which I find to be a tremendous disservice to the tournament and the teams involved not just in the bracket but also those teams on the bubble.   
"Nothing in the world is more expensive than free."- The Deacon of HBO's The Wire

seventiesraider

Quote from: WallyFS4 on November 17, 2010, 03:23:01 PM
I'm sure this has been addressed.  Why is Witt a 5 seed, & DePauw is a 3?  Doesn't make since to me.  Sorry if this has been talked about, but I don't get a chance to visit here very often.

WAF

Regional rankings (locked in after Week Ten) were considered before SOS. Based on SOS alone, Witt would have been lucky to be 5th
Same as it ever was...same as it ever was...same as it ever was...

bashbrother

I am sure everyone remembers the swagger the Bishop Defense had during the 2004 season with Cisco Clervoix.  That guy was a freak (Dwight Freeney type) and fun to watch.

That Bishop's defense was Hard-hitting and sound.   Let's hope this group of underclassman are motivated to stick with the program and get the swagger back.

Senior laden teams at all key positions win championships.  Witt a perfect example this year.


Why should you go for it on 4th down?

"To overcome the disappointment of not making it on third down." -- Washington State Coach Mike Leach

Schwami

Quote from: seventiesraider on November 17, 2010, 05:19:14 PM
Quote from: WallyFS4 on November 17, 2010, 03:23:01 PM
I'm sure this has been addressed.  Why is Witt a 5 seed, & DePauw is a 3?  Doesn't make since to me.  Sorry if this has been talked about, but I don't get a chance to visit here very often.

WAF

Regional rankings (locked in after Week Ten) were considered before SOS. Based on SOS alone, Witt would have been lucky to be 5th

Indeed, DePauw actually has the highest SOS of all the teams in the North Central bracket.  At least they didn't get the #1 seed --- that would really have set off the Whitewater folks  ;D
Long shall we sing thy praises, Old Wabash

HScoach

Quote from: Schwami on November 17, 2010, 05:33:55 PM
Quote from: seventiesraider on November 17, 2010, 05:19:14 PM
Quote from: WallyFS4 on November 17, 2010, 03:23:01 PM
I'm sure this has been addressed.  Why is Witt a 5 seed, & DePauw is a 3?  Doesn't make since to me.  Sorry if this has been talked about, but I don't get a chance to visit here very often.

WAF

Regional rankings (locked in after Week Ten) were considered before SOS. Based on SOS alone, Witt would have been lucky to be 5th

Indeed, DePauw actually has the highest SOS of all the teams in the North Central bracket.  At least they didn't get the #1 seed --- that would really have set off the Whitewater folks  ;D

That would have been funny to watch the UWW heads explode.  Makes me wish the NCAA would have done it.
I find easily offended people rather offensive!

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wally_wabash

Quote from: seventiesraider on November 17, 2010, 05:19:14 PM
Quote from: WallyFS4 on November 17, 2010, 03:23:01 PM
I'm sure this has been addressed.  Why is Witt a 5 seed, & DePauw is a 3?  Doesn't make since to me.  Sorry if this has been talked about, but I don't get a chance to visit here very often.

WAF

Regional rankings (locked in after Week Ten) were considered before SOS. Based on SOS alone, Witt would have been lucky to be 5th

I believe there are a set of RRs done after the week 11 games that the rest of the world doesn't get to see for reasons passing understanding.  It would be absurd for the committee to use a set of rankings that don't include the entire season's worth of data to make tournament selections and seedings.
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