FB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[Case04]

Oberin (1-2, 2-5) @ Denison (2-2, 3-5). This is a quite intriguing matchup. The Yeomen fight valiantly with a limited roster, and play to the whistle and the final gun every game. Denison could easily be 3-1 in the conference and 5-3 overall. It wouldn't surprise me to see an Oberlin win, as the Big Red needs to learn how to play for 60 minutes.

And Down the stretch they come -  Oberlin is a strange team this year.   They have scored 56% of their points in the 2nd half.  (which isn't all that surprising)  But when you look at their 4th quarter scoring.....  39% of their points this season have come in the 4th.   They have also outscored their opponents 62-41 in the 4th qtr.    This goes against the grain of what would be expected of a team with a very thin roster.  One would think that at least in the 4th, the lack of depth would hurt them.    To me,  this is a great sign of strength within the program and speaks to solid coaching and players desire to win.   Now they just need to figure out the 1st & 2nd qtrs.

Lack of depth could mean that Oberlin is scoring with their 1st team O against 3rd or even 4th team players on D in those 4th quarters...only a possibility...

[bishopowu]

Every Coach that leads a Collegiate Athletic Program most likely thinks the samething. They all want to be successful and more importantly make sure the players are winners in life. Anyone can say that is what they want. So to think Hollway wants to do that is fine but you cant keep a coach that does not win games just because of how he deals with his players. We can see how this does not affect the players as well because many players don't come back to the program. We can see from rosters year in and year out that the players change quit and transfer. The product on the field is terrible. New regime would put a new life into the program and community. This program needs a coach that has enthusiasm. It is hard for incoming freshman to play for a guy like "H" when the atmoshere is significantly different than High School.

[bashbrother]

Thought this might be a good time to dust this one off - 

http://youtu.be/W42iiCcFbxE

[aueagle]

Thanks, bb,  for setting this back on-point....
I like it when he says..."This whole thing just bothers me"

[wally_wabash]

Oberin (1-2, 2-5) @ Denison (2-2, 3-5). This is a quite intriguing matchup. The Yeomen fight valiantly with a limited roster, and play to the whistle and the final gun every game. Denison could easily be 3-1 in the conference and 5-3 overall. It wouldn't surprise me to see an Oberlin win, as the Big Red needs to learn how to play for 60 minutes.

And Down the stretch they come -  Oberlin is a strange team this year.   They have scored 56% of their points in the 2nd half.  (which isn't all that surprising)  But when you look at their 4th quarter scoring.....  39% of their points this season have come in the 4th.   They have also outscored their opponents 62-41 in the 4th qtr.    This goes against the grain of what would be expected of a team with a very thin roster.  One would think that at least in the 4th, the lack of depth would hurt them.    To me,  this is a great sign of strength within the program and speaks to solid coaching and players desire to win.   Now they just need to figure out the 1st & 2nd qtrs.

Lack of depth could mean that Oberlin is scoring with their 1st team O against 3rd or even 4th team players on D in those 4th quarters...only a possibility...

Nope.  I know your Spartans put a beatdown on the Yeomen, but Oberlin's been doing most of their damage against the 1s.  Minus a couple of injured players, Oberlin's comeback against Wabash came with the first string still on the field.  It took Wittenberg until deep into the fourth quarter to pull away from Oberlin, so the 1s were in there as well.  From the play by play, it looks like Washington had their starters out there for four quarters.  Really, the CWRU game is the only game where the Yeomen have played significant time against backups. 

[bashbrother]

Oberin (1-2, 2-5) @ Denison (2-2, 3-5). This is a quite intriguing matchup. The Yeomen fight valiantly with a limited roster, and play to the whistle and the final gun every game. Denison could easily be 3-1 in the conference and 5-3 overall. It wouldn't surprise me to see an Oberlin win, as the Big Red needs to learn how to play for 60 minutes.

And Down the stretch they come -  Oberlin is a strange team this year.   They have scored 56% of their points in the 2nd half.  (which isn't all that surprising)  But when you look at their 4th quarter scoring.....  39% of their points this season have come in the 4th.   They have also outscored their opponents 62-41 in the 4th qtr.    This goes against the grain of what would be expected of a team with a very thin roster.  One would think that at least in the 4th, the lack of depth would hurt them.    To me,  this is a great sign of strength within the program and speaks to solid coaching and players desire to win.   Now they just need to figure out the 1st & 2nd qtrs.

Lack of depth could mean that Oberlin is scoring with their 1st team O against 3rd or even 4th team players on D in those 4th quarters...only a possibility...

Potentially,  I can only speak for the Wabash game, I believe Wabash had their 1st team in most, if not all, of the 2nd half.   Heck, it got as close as 30-23.   The point that I was trying to make is that down 30-3, they didn't fold-up.   "They played to Win the Game"

[luvncac]

Aueagle, Bishopowu, etc...I'm not drinking any Kool-Aid, just a local guy with an interest, so I'll be looking forward to your comments to my post.  Also, are you football alums of OWU....if so, when did you play, if it was after 1973, I probably saw you play.

Been to all of OWU's home games but Chicago, too cold and rainy, and definitely have seen a steady decline in performance; the Denison game had us all fired up.  My buddies and I have no vested interest in OWU (Not parents...not alums) other then we all live in the area and thoroughly enjoy watching games at Selby; we are true HS football fans and closely follow the OCC (Delaware Hayes, all three Olentangy HS's, and Big Walnut) and the MOAC (Buckeye Valley, Pleasant, River Valley, Highland, etc.) and OWU, along with it's opponents, usually have a handful of local kids we are familiar with, in all sports.  I like to read this forum because it gives me a good story line to go to the games with; I do the same for the HS games we attend on a similar HS site.  We almost went to the Capitol-Mt. Union game in Columbus but decided that OWU would have a better chance because of DePauw's down season, plus it was free admission for Community Day (Thank you OWU!)........WRONGGGGGGG...should have went to Columbus for a competitive game.  If you were at the DePauw game you saw OWU march down the field on their first two possessions, and score, and then completely fade for the rest of the game.  I was sitting close to two sets of parents who explained to me that we always start well but end up in a spread type offense and that's when things stall......QB can be a very good passer but has limited mobility (he wears a knee brace so I'm assuming that affects his running) which makes it very easy on the defense to key on receivers when we run an empty back field and don't really threaten with the QB scramble. 

I'm not as gifted of an observer of football as most of the posters on this thread ( Especially Wabash...you guys are great) but I'm starting to see some very obvious flaws in the OWU efforts.  I've mentioned before that I've met Coach Hollway and he is a kind and considerate man, I've met Coach Delaney at several girls HS basketball games over the years (his daughters were wonderful players at Olentangy) and he is top notch, and Roger Ingles is a Delaware County boy, who I've met many times, and is as big of an OWU advocate as they come, so please don't question their character, but as far as the X's & O's are concerned, I have to agree that maybe some fresh ideas, and possibly personel, are needed.  I find it hard to believe that a coach would knowingly make the wrong decisions but wally_wabash may have something with his Einstein quote.


We're going to do our one road trip of the season this Saturday at Kenyon (mainly because we want to see their new indoor facility and view the Fall colors in Knox County) and I guess if the Bishops are going to have a great day, this should be their chance.  We'll be easy to spot....3 or 4 obviously retired guys probably wearing Buckeye gear. 

One last thing I would care to hear, are there any posters who are parents of a current player?  I ask because I run into players all the time at the Hamburger Inn and they honestly come across as being enthusiastic and optimistic about this team.....don't get me wrong, they hate losing but have genuine respect for their coaches; at least the boys I've spoke to.  Please be honest, if your son isn't complaining let us know, or if he is, what about?  On a positive note, OWU's men soccer coach, Jay Martin, is featured today in the Columbus Dispatch for winning his 600th match and with seven more victories he will become the most successful United States soccer coach at any level. 

[wabco]

I dropped Coach Carlson a note today congratulating him on his first senior class and the leadership they and his coaches are providing in producing (to date) an undefeated record along with expectation of completing both a conference championship and playoff bid.  I told him that a number of Little Giants eagerly check St. Scholastica's scores each week to see if "coach" won. 

In what I believe to be typical Greg Carlson, he turned the attention to how proud he is in "my seniors" and how they are accomplishing and went on to spread the pride to the Wabash D work BJ Hammer is doing, as one of his prior assistants.  He closed by thanking me and other 'Bashers for their support and wishing Wabash a strong finish, a win over Witt and DePauw, and fun in the playoffs.

[smedindy]

Oberin (1-2, 2-5) @ Denison (2-2, 3-5). This is a quite intriguing matchup. The Yeomen fight valiantly with a limited roster, and play to the whistle and the final gun every game. Denison could easily be 3-1 in the conference and 5-3 overall. It wouldn't surprise me to see an Oberlin win, as the Big Red needs to learn how to play for 60 minutes.

And Down the stretch they come -  Oberlin is a strange team this year.   They have scored 56% of their points in the 2nd half.  (which isn't all that surprising)  But when you look at their 4th quarter scoring.....  39% of their points this season have come in the 4th.   They have also outscored their opponents 62-41 in the 4th qtr.    This goes against the grain of what would be expected of a team with a very thin roster.  One would think that at least in the 4th, the lack of depth would hurt them.    To me,  this is a great sign of strength within the program and speaks to solid coaching and players desire to win.   Now they just need to figure out the 1st & 2nd qtrs.

Lack of depth could mean that Oberlin is scoring with their 1st team O against 3rd or even 4th team players on D in those 4th quarters...only a possibility...

No, they've been in most games even before the end. No time to clear the bench.

[Case04]

Oberin (1-2, 2-5) @ Denison (2-2, 3-5). This is a quite intriguing matchup. The Yeomen fight valiantly with a limited roster, and play to the whistle and the final gun every game. Denison could easily be 3-1 in the conference and 5-3 overall. It wouldn't surprise me to see an Oberlin win, as the Big Red needs to learn how to play for 60 minutes.

And Down the stretch they come -  Oberlin is a strange team this year.   They have scored 56% of their points in the 2nd half.  (which isn't all that surprising)  But when you look at their 4th quarter scoring.....  39% of their points this season have come in the 4th.   They have also outscored their opponents 62-41 in the 4th qtr.    This goes against the grain of what would be expected of a team with a very thin roster.  One would think that at least in the 4th, the lack of depth would hurt them.    To me,  this is a great sign of strength within the program and speaks to solid coaching and players desire to win.   Now they just need to figure out the 1st & 2nd qtrs.

Lack of depth could mean that Oberlin is scoring with their 1st team O against 3rd or even 4th team players on D in those 4th quarters...only a possibility...

No, they've been in most games even before the end. No time to clear the bench.


Fair enough, I was only able to watch Oberlin the one game.

[aueagle]

Great post luvncac. You've got insight & perspective to OWU and the team needs more fans like you at Selby & that travel to games.
I've been around Bishop football all my life...had family at Willis High and have seen many of the teams you mentioned. Outstanding programs for those young people in the OCC/MOAC.
As good as Espo can be at QB...the mobility has been a problem. Just look at the past Bishop QB's (St Louie, Fisher, etc) and the reason they were so dangerous, was that they could run & pass. How many times over the years have we all questioned the OWU offensive style? If one thing, change is constant with the Red & Black "O".
I don't think I've ever questioned the character of an OWU coach....I could care less if he goes to church or has dreams of pink furry bunnies....I have a performance based mentality. You either get it right or you get eliminated. Period.
The program is under-performing and has for way to long....The question is: will OWU do it right and fix it and then support it. This board has talked about the problem for years...and I think the majority knows what it will take to re-establish the program.
Enjoy the KAC at Kenyon...It's fantastic. Don't hit any buggies and bring home a win. Looks like I'll make the Hiram game.
Read the Dispatch on Coach Martin...The Bishops are lucky to have him.

[BashBacker#16]

Thanks for some previous posts on the passing of Wabash Hall of Famer, Michael Funk '89.  He'll be missed.  I thought I would share an email I received from Jim Amidon on Mike's career:

He was a Two-Time, First Team All-American receiver (when there was only one All-America list)

He led the nation in receiving in 1989. He had 281 all-purpose yards vs. Franklin (180 receiving, 91 KOR, 10 PR), which was a record at the time. He had 1,683 All-Purpose Yards that year, which was second all-time to that point. His 4,025 career All-Purpose Yards is in the top-five all-time.

His 9.7 catches per game in 1989 remains a record for one season, as does his average of 6 catches per game in his 38-game career.. His 87 catches in 1989 is the best single-season mark and his 228 career catches is second all-time. His 33 career TD catches is second all-time. His 129.9 receiving yards-per-game is the best ever and his average of 75 receiving yards per game over his entire career is also best-ever.

He was First Team All-Conference in Baseball in 1988 when he hit .412 in league games.

He led Wabash in batting in 1987 (.321) and 1989 (.358). At one time, he held records for runs in a season (45), in a career (107), doubles in a season (13), and doubles in a career (26). We didn't play as many games back then -- his doubles and runs scored records came in 34 games. He hit .408 in 1988, overshadowed by Panozzo's .471.

Lilly Scholar. And the only guy I know who could show up either still drunk or wickedly hungover and whack four doubles in a twinbill on a cold, wet day at Mud Hollow.
___________

Professionally, he started Anodyne Health 8 years ago outside of Atlanta, GA - he and his partners developed a business intelligence software for the healthcare industry (specifically physician groups).  In the Fall of 2009, the company was purchased by Athena Health (ATHN) for $30 million.

He was a stud.

[WABCOL86]

BB#16:

Amen, I knew Mike mostly in passing acquaintance, as he was younger than me.  But he wa special.  It was easy to see.  Similarly, he will be missed.  His passing has bothered me like few other things have recently.  RIP Mike...

[utahgetme2]

Speaking of Oberlin, do you think if they win out, and its a huge if, that Coach Ramsey would have a good shot at NCAC coach of the year?  With the situations they've had to deal with (roster size, recruiting class size, injuries) you'd think he'd have a good shot.

[ExTartanPlayer]

Speaking of Oberlin, do you think if they win out, and its a huge if, that Coach Ramsey would have a good shot at NCAC coach of the year?  With the situations they've had to deal with (roster size, recruiting class size, injuries) you'd think he'd have a good shot.

You're right that it's a huge if (especially with all three on the road), but nor is it impossible; I do think that they COULD win any of the three games, although I don't think that they will beat Allegheny.

I think he would deserve some votes.  There's always the philosophical question of which is more impressive: winning big at a program where that's the norm, or leading an undermanned squad to a .500 season.  Personally, I'd be very impressed with Oberlin's overall season if they finished 5-5 (which would also put them tied for 3rd in the conference), but I couldn't justify voting for Ramsey over the coach of an undefeated Wabash team, even if they were the consensus favorite.