FB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[wally56]

Hometown Sports has livestreamed the Wabash games for the past couple of years and showed them via video replay on their TV networks.  Would it be possible/plausible that they could follow the Little Giants to Alliance?  I suppose that even if they would be willing to go it would have to be approved by the NCAA and Mount Union, but their productions are fantastic; certainly not a "shaky second-class webcast."  The livestreams of the Wabash basketball game for the last couple of years have been student productions, but I have felt that even those have been pretty good productions.

[ncc58]

Hometown Sports has livestreamed the Wabash games for the past couple of years and showed them via video replay on their TV networks.  Would it be possible/plausible that they could follow the Little Giants to Alliance?  I suppose that even if they would be willing to go it would have to be approved by the NCAA and Mount Union, but their productions are fantastic; certainly not a "shaky second-class webcast."  The livestreams of the Wabash basketball game for the last couple of years have been student productions, but I have felt that even those have been pretty good productions.

Heck, I watched several games this season that have been live streamed and the quality has been very good. Hooking up a laptop is trivial. I heard a lot of good things about Hometown Sports from people who watched last week's game.

[seventiesraider]

I tried as hard as I could to check out the NCAA playoff manual but my guess is that HC/Athletic Director Larry Kehres wants people to buy a ticket and support his sports teams. Or as he is only a couple of months younger than me, he is old fashioned and worried about other things

[Pat Coleman]

Hometown Sports has livestreamed the Wabash games for the past couple of years and showed them via video replay on their TV networks.  Would it be possible/plausible that they could follow the Little Giants to Alliance?  I suppose that even if they would be willing to go it would have to be approved by the NCAA and Mount Union, but their productions are fantastic; certainly not a "shaky second-class webcast."  The livestreams of the Wabash basketball game for the last couple of years have been student productions, but I have felt that even those have been pretty good productions.

For what it's worth, I am not sure it has to be approved by Mount Union, just the NCAA.

We did give this some consideration on our own but decided against it. As much as we would like to add coverage whenever possible, the logistical issues of getting a crew from Baltimore/DC/NYC to Alliance made it a no-go for us.

[HScoach]

Might as well copy this to this page as well for those NCACers unwilling to step over to the OAC page.

Going thru the info for Saturday's broadcast and a couple things jump off the page concerning the Wabash defense.

1.  They're very good.   Here's their national rankings thru 12 games:
  -  Rushing D (5th) = 73 yds/game
  -  Pass Eff D (14th) = 95.51 rating
  -  Total D (13th) = 250 yds/game
  -  Scoring D (6th) = 12.3 pts/game

2.  They're very young.  Here's their starters by class:
  -  (3) Seniors
  -  (2) Juniors
  -  (3) Sophomores
  -  (3) Freshmen

With only 3 seniors, and who knows if any of them actually have a medical year remaining, the Wabash defense is going to be crazy good next year too.




By contrast, here's the same data on Mount:

  -  Rushing D (3rd) = 70 yds/game
  -  Pass Eff D (1st) = 68.06 rating
  -  Total D (1st) = 179 yds/game
  -  Scoring D (1st) = 7.3 pts/game

  -  (5) Seniors
  -  (5) Juniors
  -  (1) Sophomores
  -  (0) Freshmen

Not sure what all these numbers will mean come Saturday, but I would expect the points to be hard to come by.  Should be a great game.

[wally_wabash]

I tried as hard as I could to check out the NCAA playoff manual but my guess is that HC/Athletic Director Larry Kehres wants people to buy a ticket and support his sports teams. Or as he is only a couple of months younger than me, he is old fashioned and worried about other things

I don't know how putting the team's games live on the web is a bad thing.  Increased exposure can never ever be a bad thing for Division III teams.  I realize that Mount Union probably gets more exposure than any other D-III team with or without a live webstream of their games, but come on.  There have to be UMU alums scattered around the country that would enjoy watching Raiders games on Saturdays.  The webstream would probably cost Mount Union something at the gate, but it seems kind of weak to hold out on your fans and alums around the nation to get a few extra $8 game tickets sold. 

The sport is better with more video exposure.  D-III games aren't getting on ESPNU or CBSC or whatever else anytime soon...webstreams are the outlet for the product right now.  It would be cool if the highest profile D-III team out there would be on board.  Maybe one of these days. 

[DPU3619]

I don't have a horse in this race. My alma mater is also guilty of this. I'll also probably get dinged for it, but this is ridiculous. This is the 21st century and the flagship program in D3 football doesn't put out live video in one or another? What are we doing here?

Maybe it is an LK thing, but to me we're still at a point as a D3 wide entity where any pub is probably good pub. I'm really, really disappointed to hear this. This is one of the best games of the weekend and 95% have to watch on tape delay? That's just not OK to me.

[wally_wabash]

the Wabash defense... gave NCC only 7 points... which had nothing to do with blitzing or missed Off. holding calls.

Yeeeah...about that.  I just watched the fourth quarter of the game again, paying special attention to the Wabash OL and NCC DL and special special attention to Willie Hays.  Those guys just got blocked.  They didn't get held egregiously or tackled or "raped" was a particularly unsavory word that I saw used somewhere else.  They just got blocked.  Few things grind my gears like people, any people including Wabash people, complaining about holding...it really is the sourest of grapes. 

[Mr. Ypsi]

That is the one thing very few if any talked about regarding the 2nd half against NCC......  Even though, NCC didn't blitz and let us go pass happy..... the Wabash defense... gave NCC's ("unstoppable", the "Best Offense in the World"   ) only 7 points... which had nothing to do with NCC's failure to blitz or missed Off. holding calls  .  They don't force NCC into 3 and outs and don't force a turnover,  Burke and the O are not on the field to do what they did.  Just saying.

In fairness, I don't recall any posts even remotely like the supposed quotes highlighted above.  (And, actually, NCC scored 4 more points against you than against my Titans.   Only if you are very rude, will you respond that you scored 29 more points than did my Titans. )

I agree with you and Wally about the gripes over holding.  Holding could be called on just about every play, so complaining about non-calls on any but the most egregious takedowns is just griping and whining.

The reason why I finally came out and agreed that NCC 'blew it' was (as expressed either here or elsewhere) NOT anything the NCC players did or did not do.  The coaches blew it by not adjusting once the LG passing game got in gear.  The NCC defensive line is VERY good, but even lines like the Purple People Eaters or the Steel Curtain relied on help from blitzes at least now and then.  While it is unprovable either way, I believe that the LGs could not have come back all the way to winning if NCC had done some judicious blitzing.

[formerd3db]

Mr. Ypsi:

I know I am jumping in here in the middle of a discussion, so my apologies, and, also, in reality, this has nothing to do with the game you guys are discussing.  That being said, I would agree with you that holding can be called on linemen on almost every play (as I've witnessed that as a former collegiate player, coach and otherwise fan, the latter like many others here as well).  However, I only disagree with you that sometimes, gripes over non-calls are legitimate without question when the officiating crews are egregiously inconsistent in calling those i.e. one-sided in favor of one team over another.  That does happen a lot in many games, although I will admit not every game.  I've witnessed that a ton in our league over the past 3-4 years (including when Hope has been the beneficiary, I have to admit and not just the team those situation of calls or non-calls have gone against Hope ) and as I've discussed before in that, unfortunately, the quaility of officiating has declined much in recent years.  So it does happen and complaints in those situations, IMO, are absolutely legit - even though complaining about them does nothing to rectify the situation.   However, again, I cannot comment on that with regard to the recent playoff game you guys are discussing since I did not see the game and thus, know nothing about it as opposed to someone who saw it.   

[BayernFan]

No worries this Saturday.........

Wabash beat  Wittenberg 28 - 17
Wittenberg beat  Capital 45 - 28
Capital beat  Baldwin-Wallace 14 - 11
Baldwin-Wallace is better than  Mt Union because Baldwin-Wallace beat Wilmington OH 75 - 0
while Mt Union only beat Wilmington OH 66 - 7

[Bash-Dad #84]

No worries this Saturday.........

Wabash beat  Wittenberg 28 - 17
Wittenberg beat  Capital 45 - 28
Capital beat  Baldwin-Wallace 14 - 11
Baldwin-Wallace is better than  Mt Union because Baldwin-Wallace beat Wilmington OH 75 - 0
while Mt Union only beat Wilmington OH 66 - 7

I've got to admit, I feel a lot better about our chances now! 

Wabash Always Fights!

[wesleydad]

I am also disappointed that the game will not be shown live.  I will also compliment the Wabash video from last week as it was very good, except for the occasional delay.  Hoping that something changes by Saturday.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Mr. Ypsi:

I know I am jumping in here in the middle of a discussion, so my apologies, and, also, in reality, this has nothing to do with the game you guys are discussing.  That being said, I would agree with you that holding can be called on linemen on almost every play (as I've witnessed that as a former collegiate player, coach and otherwise fan, the latter like many others here as well).  However, I only disagree with you that sometimes, gripes over non-calls are legitimate without question when the officiating crews are egregiously inconsistent in calling those i.e. one-sided in favor of one team over another.  That does happen a lot in many games, although I will admit not every game.  I've witnessed that a ton in our league over the past 3-4 years (including when Hope has been the beneficiary, I have to admit and not just the team those situation of calls or non-calls have gone against Hope ) and as I've discussed before in that, unfortunately, the quaility of officiating has declined much in recent years.  So it does happen and complaints in those situations, IMO, are absolutely legit - even though complaining about them does nothing to rectify the situation.   However, again, I cannot comment on that with regard to the recent playoff game you guys are discussing since I did not see the game and thus, know nothing about it as opposed to someone who saw it.   

Yeah, I should have included among legitimate gripes egregious disparity of holding calls.  But I am not sure whether or not I've ever seen that.  In the heat of the moment, I will sometimes spout about refs being 'corrupt', but there is only one exception to my eventually cooling off and simply saying simply 'bad': the 2006(?) bowl game of UM/Alabama.  I watched it in western Illinois with several nephews (all of them Ilinois or Iowa fans who despise Michigan) - by the end of the game they unanimously agreed that UM would have won by 3 TDs with fair officiating, and that the refs had probably been paid off.

Refs have a tough job, and should receive our appreciation most of the time.  That remains the ONLY game I believe they were genuinely corrupt.

[skunks_sidekick]

It's an LK thing........trust me.