FB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[BayernFan]

Wabash is better than LSU because...

Wabash beat  Illinois Col 38 - 20
Div III Illinois Col beat  Grinnell 48 - 16
Div III Grinnell beat  Macalester 31 - 6
Div III Macalester beat  Trinity Bib 42 - 7
NCCAA Trinity Bib beat  Peru St 31 - 5
NAIA Peru St beat  Evangel 20 - 13
NAIA Evangel beat  Baker KS 34 - 27
NAIA Baker KS beat  Benedictine KS 10 - 7
NAIA Benedictine KS beat  Missouri Val 35 - 19
NAIA Missouri Val beat  Mid Am Nazarene 26 - 21
NAIA Mid Am Nazarene beat  Southern Nazarene 41 - 17
NAIA Southern Nazarene beat  Langston 38 - 34
NAIA Langston beat  Ark Pine Bluff 19 - 12
Div I - FCS Ark Pine Bluff beat  Prairie View 36 - 29
Div I - FCS Prairie View beat  Grambling 31 - 23
Div I - FCS Grambling beat  Jackson St 26 - 23
Div I - FCS Jackson St beat  Tennessee St 35 - 29
Div I - FCS Tennessee St beat  E Illinois 18 - 17
Div I - FCS E Illinois beat  Illinois St 33 - 26
Div I - FCS Illinois St beat  Indiana St 17 - 14
Div I - FCS Indiana St beat  W Kentucky 44 - 16
Div I - FBS W Kentucky beat  Florida Intl 10 - 9
Div I - FBS Florida Intl beat  Louisville 24 - 17
Div I - FBS Louisville beat  Kentucky 24 - 17
Div I - FBS Kentucky beat  Tennessee 10 - 7
Div I - FBS Tennessee beat  Vanderbilt 27 - 21
Div I - FBS Vanderbilt is better than  LSU because Vanderbilt beat Kentucky 38 - 8
while LSU only beat Kentucky 35 - 7


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[Shark]

It's the playoffs, we start from scratch each week and while a tougher schedule may prepare one better for the level of competition faced in the playoffs, it certainly doesn't mean that a team with a weaker conference schedule cannot play at a championship level and win. Wabash has advanced to the great eight, and no one should ever underestimate the uniqueness of each game including the individual matchups, strategy and emotion.

I have no doubt Wabash will come prepared and pose a huge challenge for Mount. As many have stated, this Mount team, while successful has struggled on certain weeks. Starting Saturday, they better bring their "A" game if they hope to advance.

Should be a great one! Right now game time looks like 43 degrees and cloudy with little chance of rain. But here in Ohio, there is always a chance of rain! Safe travels to all heading to Alliance.

[wally_wabash]

I know your passing and rushing stats are more impressive however those were against ONLY two teams that had winning records in the reg season (Witt 8-2 and Washington 6-4). The teams you played had a combine record of 44-55. (The powerhouse team of Hiram is not included in those numbers  . 

This is a poor, poor argument.  It's the same argument we heard all of last week as to why Wabash has had a nice little season, but now it's big boy football and the LGs just haven't seen that kind of competition and are going to be overwhelmed by it.  Mount Union doesn't get any points on Saturday because they played in a better league.  It's irrelevant. 

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

I cannot believe the no-live stream decision.

Wabash's football broadcasts have all been well done. Hometown Sports is a professional outfit and the Wabash TV folks have learned from them. The announcers sound better than some of the clowns on ESPN.

There are many Wabash alums who are clamoring for a live stream but can't get to Alliance due to logistical reasons. We've got a wide footprint in the USA (and abroad) and they're the ones that tune in every week.

It's the 2010's. Not having their games live on-line is a Wirtz-ian decision.

Comment all you want but it won't happen unless the NCAA or D3Football does it.  I am a Mount Union Alum living in FL and thus don't get to see any games.  I emailed the SID a couple of years ago about it and got the standard answer about the games being broadcast-delayed on local TV.  Unfortunately it is not going to happen.

Minimal snark here...this is a serious question.  How do you feel about the fact that UMU won't put a live video stream out there for you, and UMU fans around the country like yourself, so that they can force a few extra locals to spend a few bucks at the gate?  In 2011, where video streams of D3 games have become so abundant, I'd be irked that the leader of the pack isn't doing this for their alums and fans.  You don't need 5 cameras and spiffy graphics and replays and all of that...I've watched plenty of quality streams that use a single camera.  With today's technology, doing just that much is almost trivial. 

But until then, everybody who can't make it to Alliance this weekend will have to party like it's 2003 with an audio stream and live stats.

I'm with you guys on this one.  I assume that either Coach Kehres doesn't want extra "video" of the team out there for others to scout, or that the school receives a decent amount of income from the local broadcast of the game.  Must be something in the TV agreement that prevents the video stream, but I have been wanting this for years (moved to FL in 2003).  Don't hold me to it because I am a poorly paid educator, but I would probably contribute a little $ to the team each year to make up for the lost revenue from the TV broadcasts, in order for the school to provide a live web-broadcast.

[smedindy]

Also, looking at the Massey schedule strength.

Mt. Union - 62
Wabash - 88

[Pat Coleman]

I cannot believe the no-live stream decision.

Wabash's football broadcasts have all been well done. Hometown Sports is a professional outfit and the Wabash TV folks have learned from them. The announcers sound better than some of the clowns on ESPN.

There are many Wabash alums who are clamoring for a live stream but can't get to Alliance due to logistical reasons. We've got a wide footprint in the USA (and abroad) and they're the ones that tune in every week.

It's the 2010's. Not having their games live on-line is a Wirtz-ian decision.

Comment all you want but it won't happen unless the NCAA or D3Football does it.  I am a Mount Union Alum living in FL and thus don't get to see any games.  I emailed the SID a couple of years ago about it and got the standard answer about the games being broadcast-delayed on local TV.  Unfortunately it is not going to happen.

Minimal snark here...this is a serious question.  How do you feel about the fact that UMU won't put a live video stream out there for you, and UMU fans around the country like yourself, so that they can force a few extra locals to spend a few bucks at the gate?  In 2011, where video streams of D3 games have become so abundant, I'd be irked that the leader of the pack isn't doing this for their alums and fans.  You don't need 5 cameras and spiffy graphics and replays and all of that...I've watched plenty of quality streams that use a single camera.  With today's technology, doing just that much is almost trivial. 

But until then, everybody who can't make it to Alliance this weekend will have to party like it's 2003 with an audio stream and live stats.

I am not sure this assumption holds up.

[wally_wabash]

I cannot believe the no-live stream decision.

Wabash's football broadcasts have all been well done. Hometown Sports is a professional outfit and the Wabash TV folks have learned from them. The announcers sound better than some of the clowns on ESPN.

There are many Wabash alums who are clamoring for a live stream but can't get to Alliance due to logistical reasons. We've got a wide footprint in the USA (and abroad) and they're the ones that tune in every week.

It's the 2010's. Not having their games live on-line is a Wirtz-ian decision.

Comment all you want but it won't happen unless the NCAA or D3Football does it.  I am a Mount Union Alum living in FL and thus don't get to see any games.  I emailed the SID a couple of years ago about it and got the standard answer about the games being broadcast-delayed on local TV.  Unfortunately it is not going to happen.

Minimal snark here...this is a serious question.  How do you feel about the fact that UMU won't put a live video stream out there for you, and UMU fans around the country like yourself, so that they can force a few extra locals to spend a few bucks at the gate?  In 2011, where video streams of D3 games have become so abundant, I'd be irked that the leader of the pack isn't doing this for their alums and fans.  You don't need 5 cameras and spiffy graphics and replays and all of that...I've watched plenty of quality streams that use a single camera.  With today's technology, doing just that much is almost trivial. 

But until then, everybody who can't make it to Alliance this weekend will have to party like it's 2003 with an audio stream and live stats.

I am not sure this assumption holds up.

Perhaps not...that notion was floated earlier this week by an esteemed UMU supporter. I just ran with it.  It must be something...it can't be that Coach Kehres doesn't want video out there on his team because if his games (all of them) are on STO, then the footage is out there. 

I tried as hard as I could to check out the NCAA playoff manual but my guess is that HC/Athletic Director Larry Kehres wants people to buy a ticket and support his sports teams. Or as he is only a couple of months younger than me, he is old fashioned and worried about other things

[Pat Coleman]

You've been around enough to know about seventiesraider, right?

[wally_wabash]

So...more homework then? 

[Bombers798891]

Minimal snark here...this is a serious question.  How do you feel about the fact that UMU won't put a live video stream out there for you, and UMU fans around the country like yourself, so that they can force a few extra locals to spend a few bucks at the gate?  In 2011, where video streams of D3 games have become so abundant, I'd be irked that the leader of the pack isn't doing this for their alums and fans.  You don't need 5 cameras and spiffy graphics and replays and all of that...I've watched plenty of quality streams that use a single camera.  With today's technology, doing just that much is almost trivial. 

But until then, everybody who can't make it to Alliance this weekend will have to party like it's 2003 with an audio stream and live stats.

I am not sure this assumption holds up.

I remember when Ithaca's attendance started flagging in the late 90's/early 00's, I remember hearing disgruntled chatter about how televising the games on the IC station (available to those in the town) was keeping people from coming to games. Now, I think it was a strawman argument, and doubt you could prove correlation, must less causation. But, that doesn't mean that a school couldn't believe that to be the case.

And hey, forgetting the money, I could understand a school wanting to, best they could, increase attendance at the game and preferring people there in person to watching at home. Seems perfectly reasonable you'd want a large, vocal, crowd at a playoff game.

Now look, I sincerely doubt a school is going to issue an edict saying, "We won't have a video stream because we want people to show up." But, I think there is an undercurrent of truth to the fact a school prefers live to home viewing, and can blame the latter for a decline in the former

[HScoach]

You've been around enough to know about seventiesraider, right?

Good to see that Pat has been paying attention over the years.

[wally_wabash]

Minimal snark here...this is a serious question.  How do you feel about the fact that UMU won't put a live video stream out there for you, and UMU fans around the country like yourself, so that they can force a few extra locals to spend a few bucks at the gate?  In 2011, where video streams of D3 games have become so abundant, I'd be irked that the leader of the pack isn't doing this for their alums and fans.  You don't need 5 cameras and spiffy graphics and replays and all of that...I've watched plenty of quality streams that use a single camera.  With today's technology, doing just that much is almost trivial. 

But until then, everybody who can't make it to Alliance this weekend will have to party like it's 2003 with an audio stream and live stats.

I am not sure this assumption holds up.

I remember when Ithaca's attendance started flagging in the late 90's/early 00's, I remember hearing disgruntled chatter about how televising the games on the IC station (available to those in the town) was keeping people from coming to games. Now, I think it was a strawman argument, and doubt you could prove correlation, must less causation. But, that doesn't mean that a school couldn't believe that to be the case.

And hey, forgetting the money, I could understand a school wanting to, best they could, increase attendance at the game and preferring people there in person to watching at home. Seems perfectly reasonable you'd want a large, vocal, crowd at a playoff game.

Now look, I sincerely doubt a school is going to issue an edict saying, "We won't have a video stream because we want people to show up." But, I think there is an undercurrent of truth to the fact a school prefers live to home viewing, and can blame the latter for a decline in the former

That's pretty much the hammer on the head there.  Excellent post. 

I really think, regardless of a web stream, any Mount Union football lovin' fan within a buggy ride's distance of Alliance is either going to UMU games because they love watching the team or they're going to skip it for whatever reason (work, family, boredom, whatever).  In the vast majority of cases, I think that decision is made independent of viewing availability on the internet. 

[skunks_sidekick]

Minimal snark here...this is a serious question.  How do you feel about the fact that UMU won't put a live video stream out there for you, and UMU fans around the country like yourself, so that they can force a few extra locals to spend a few bucks at the gate?  In 2011, where video streams of D3 games have become so abundant, I'd be irked that the leader of the pack isn't doing this for their alums and fans.  You don't need 5 cameras and spiffy graphics and replays and all of that...I've watched plenty of quality streams that use a single camera.  With today's technology, doing just that much is almost trivial. 

But until then, everybody who can't make it to Alliance this weekend will have to party like it's 2003 with an audio stream and live stats.

I am not sure this assumption holds up.

I remember when Ithaca's attendance started flagging in the late 90's/early 00's, I remember hearing disgruntled chatter about how televising the games on the IC station (available to those in the town) was keeping people from coming to games. Now, I think it was a strawman argument, and doubt you could prove correlation, must less causation. But, that doesn't mean that a school couldn't believe that to be the case.

And hey, forgetting the money, I could understand a school wanting to, best they could, increase attendance at the game and preferring people there in person to watching at home. Seems perfectly reasonable you'd want a large, vocal, crowd at a playoff game.

Now look, I sincerely doubt a school is going to issue an edict saying, "We won't have a video stream because we want people to show up." But, I think there is an undercurrent of truth to the fact a school prefers live to home viewing, and can blame the latter for a decline in the former

That's pretty much the hammer on the head there.  Excellent post. 

I really think, regardless of a web stream, any Mount Union football lovin' fan within a buggy ride's distance of Alliance is either going to UMU games because they love watching the team or they're going to skip it for whatever reason (work, family, boredom, whatever).  In the vast majority of cases, I think that decision is made independent of viewing availability on the internet.

Again......this is primarily an LK decision.  If I remember (and it was a few years ago), the initial idea was to limit what was available out there for the competition to review.  At that time, all of Mount's home games weren't on STO like they are now.
My guess is.........these days it's more of "if it ain't broke don't fix it" type of thing.  The man who could (and would) answer this is Lenny, the SID.  He's a great guy, and has done much to bring Mount athletics, and especially football into the information age.  It may just be a matter of time.

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

Found the email response I received from the UMU SID last December:

We spend a lot of money and resources to put the games on national television ... which you can get on SportsTime Ohio if you have Dish Network, DirecTV and some cable systems.  We also are very cautious not to do anything that may take away from the great atmosphere that Mount Union Stadium has on Saturday afternoons.  I understand your desire and we do offer live audio and live stats of games online and our student radio station even has a service that allows you to call a phone number and hear the broadcast from anywhere.

[02 Warhawk]

Mt. Union - 62
Wabash - 88

So this isn't your final score prediction?