FB: North Coast Athletic Conference

nike · December 10, 2011, 02:07:09 PM

Quote from: aueagle on December 10, 2011, 08:35:06 AM
Bishops upgrade athletic website....outstanding look with good content & features....
Long over-due...but, a great pairing with the National Championship in soccer.

Very nice site.
A preview of changes to come? Or will 4-6 survive to see another season?
On another note, watching Mt. Union game off and on between Christmas chores. Wabash offense, if clicking on all cylinders last week, could have been enough to upset Mt. Especially the way the defense played. Wesley offense looks too one dimensional. But game is not over and 20/20 always easy.
Again, OWU website looks nice. Hope they have football preview up before 2012 season starts.

nike · December 10, 2011, 03:28:41 PM

Do not think Mt. will beat UWW this year from what I saw today.
Wabash could have beaten Wesley and wow, was maybe one half of football away from the Stagg Bowl. Hey, any team could build on this year and next year could be the year. Most of your backfield coming back, just find a couple good receivers. Rebuilding the defense is what will be tough. Can't replace Glum, but then again the freshman standout can head up the D.

wabco · December 10, 2011, 03:57:58 PM

D is already reloading. Gum's footprint is there as the example ... he is not lost to Wabash. You will see him again next year in the play and hits of his followers.

Great halftime at Wabash Wooster basketball game. NCAC WABASH 2011 Track, Baseball, Cross, and Football champions. AND the Wabash basketball is undefeated and just put a NICE ... you lose ... on the Woo-ites by 14. I suspect the NCAC basketball Board here is slush with the tears of the former # 5 Woos (after losing to Witt this week and the pasting they took today).

nike · December 10, 2011, 05:30:52 PM

Mt. People saying Wesley best team they played all year. Really think Wabash D was better and O could not get untracked. Wesley good, but...

wally_wabash · December 10, 2011, 05:32:31 PM

Quote from: nike on December 10, 2011, 03:28:41 PM
Do not think Mt. will beat UWW this year from what I saw today.
Wabash could have beaten Wesley and wow, was maybe one half of football away from the Stagg Bowl. Hey, any team could build on this year and next year could be the year. Most of your backfield coming back, just find a couple good receivers. Rebuilding the defense is what will be tough. Can't replace Glum, but then again the freshman standout can head up the D.

On the contrary, nike...the defense was very, very young. Gum was the only senior starter last Saturday at Mount Union. Zinsmaster was a regular starter most of the season. And really, those are the graduation losses for the defense. Nate Scola will step into the skullcracker role next year. This Wabash defense is only going to be better in 2012.

wally_wabash · December 10, 2011, 05:56:30 PM

Quote from: wabco on December 10, 2011, 03:57:58 PM
Great halftime at Wabash Wooster basketball game. NCAC WABASH 2011 Track, Baseball, Cross, and Football champions.

The best part about this is that the five NCAC championships (Indoor Track, Outdoor Track, baseball, cross country, and football) is a first in the NCAC...nobody has won five league championships in the same calendar year before. Amazing accomplishment for the athletics program at Wabash.

HScoach · December 10, 2011, 06:51:58 PM

Quote from: nike on December 10, 2011, 05:30:52 PM
Mt. People saying Wesley best team they played all year. Really think Wabash D was better and O could not get untracked. Wesley good, but...

Wabash defense was better than Wesley's, but the offenses were night and day different. Wesley was better than Wabash at every offensive position. Especially at QB and WR. Huge difference between the Wesley and Wabash skill people. It took everything Mount had, plus some sloppy mistakes by Wesley, to hold them to 21.

Not to take anything away from Wabash because they were very good and should be even better next year, but based on just the team's play against Mount, I'd set Wesley as a 10-14 point favorite over Wabash. The Wesley offense was much better than Mount's O. They were just facing a better D than Mount was playing against.

After seeing the Wabash roster, I have no doubts we'll be seeing you guys again at some point in the 2012 playoffs. Good health in the off season.

nike · December 10, 2011, 08:08:33 PM

Not saying anything disparaging about Wesley, but Wabash could have beaten them. What I am saying is that if the Wabash offense had been able to get untracked early in the game against Mt. Union, they could have won. I saw the game and if, a big if, Belton had been completely healthy and started and produced any offense at all in the first half, you got a game till the end. If no interceptions in first half, again those were huge turnovers. Wabash defense was lights out that game and was on the field all the time. Belton may not be a better QB than McSweeney, but his running early on would have opened up the passing game against Mt. Union and Wesley. That is what he did all year. And I would stack Wabash wideouts up against anybody's.
My point is the Wabash game against Mt. was closer than the score indicated. And Wabash, if their D is the same next year, could get at least as far as they did this year. Belton will be better and one top flight back, as someone said, makes Belton even more dangerous.
Of course I will also agree that Mt's offense did move the ball better and look crisper today with starting QB.
Wabash isn't that far away. In my mind Wabash was very close to the Stagg this year. One good half away. Just my opinion.

aueagle · December 11, 2011, 02:54:42 PM

I watched the Mount & Whitewater games...Just a thought.
If Mount hadn't of fumbled the INT early in the game (which resulted in a Wesley TD & momentum),
would it have been as close as it was? AND...I found it offensive that the NCAA ran commercials promoting
Division 2 during both telecasts. Poor call by the NCAA on that one. The Warhawks look very tough.

wally world · December 12, 2011, 09:31:33 AM

Quote from: BashDad on December 08, 2011, 04:02:51 PM
How Depauw will recruit even a single player away from Wabash is beyond me.

They do have chicks there.

I wonder....how many recruits does Wabash lose because they are all-male? I've got to think it's not an insignificant number.

WABCOL86 · December 12, 2011, 09:48:26 AM

I know for a fact that we did, because we did when I was there in the '80's, because I helped with recruiting then amongst other things in the athletic office. OTOH, many of those kids were woefully uninformed about the female situation at 'Bash, even then. I am sure it is still the case. Many see "all-male" and think all the wrong things possible. Visiting campus now as well as back in the day, there was NEVER a lack of female presence or companionship. There are women in town, if nothing else (My first wife was a townie...)!!

Bishopleftiesdad · December 12, 2011, 10:52:31 AM

Quote from: aueagle on December 10, 2011, 08:35:06 AM
Bishops upgrade athletic website....outstanding look with good content & features....
Long over-due...but, a great pairing with the National Championship in soccer.

I like it! You are right it was much needed.

BashBacker#16 · December 12, 2011, 12:16:13 PM

AFCA All American team has been announced! Congrats to Wabash Linebacker, #33 CJ Gum!!! Awesome. http://www.afca.com/article/article.php?id=1209

BashBacker#16 · December 12, 2011, 12:25:03 PM

WallyWorld - from my perspective and from helping with recruiting over the years, if we lose a guy because of the all-male thing, they were missing quite a bit. In other words, they were likely not the right fit in the first place. Do guys go to the Naval Academy because of chicks? How about West Point? Does a guy go to Harvard for women? Those are extreme examples but hopefully make a point. It happens, no knock to the recruits, but it's not a super common thing. I also think the more a recruit looks at Wabash, the more they "get it" and the lower the all-male factor weighs in.

ExTartanPlayer · December 12, 2011, 02:10:51 PM

Quote from: BashBacker#16 on December 12, 2011, 12:25:03 PM
WallyWorld - from my perspective and from helping with recruiting over the years, if we lose a guy because of the all-male thing, they were missing quite a bit. In other words, they were likely not the right fit in the first place.

This.

I was one of the more-involved players on the CMU team when it came to recruiting (I had a work-study job calling prospective recruits, and if/when they visited I often ended up hosting players that I'd spoken to on the phone), and during my four years I only recall a handful of guys that were turned off by certain triggers. I remember one or two guys commenting on the apparent dearth of attractive girls at CMU (the male/female ratio is about 60-40), but honestly, those guys weren't a good fit at CMU anyway.

I expect that's paralleled at Wabash. If a kid crosses the school off just because it's all-male, then he probably isn't going to fit in with the overall culture of a school like Wabash. There are other reasons to go to college besides girls, and it's not like attending an all-male school means that there are no women around ANYWHERE.