FB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[Bishopleftiesdad]

Many of us early said it probably was a good thing that OWU avoided Witt this year. I originally thought it was not good and I wanted to see the two go head to head. After reading some arguments that it was good. That it helped QWU build some confidence, etc.. I waffled the other way and was happy we did not face Witt.

Now I am waffling again. I wish we would have played Witt. It would have given us another game against a RRO, (Darn CMU for getting another loss) and who knows we may have won back Ye Old Skull after not having it for so long.

[wabndy]

Looking at Wally's excellent Pool C breakdown over on that board, would OWU still have a decent shot at a third Pool C coming out of the north and second pool C out of the NCAC?  (I think I said never gonna happen at one point - but hey). 
Here's the full breakdown
http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=7808.msg1458747#msg1458747

For the last pool C slot, Wally has Heidelberg on the board against three two loss teams from the other regions.  The only thing between heidelberg and OWU on the regional rankings are two presumptive Pool A teams (Witt, Adrian).  Both Heidelberg and OWU currently have one loss to a RRO and OWU actually has a higher SOS.  Heidelberg still has to play John Carroll(6-2) and a nothing-else-to-play-for BW(7-1).  So if the Bishops take care of business against the rest of their easy schedule and Heidelberg doesn't, could not OWU still have a reasonable shot for a Pool C - at least based on the objective criteria?  I'd still just be shocked if there were actually two Pool C's from the NCAC.

[wally_wabash]

Yes, OWU really needs Heidelberg and Elmhurst to lose a game.  One or the other might get OWU to the table for the last pick or two.  Both losing gets OWU to the table after the first pick, which right now Wabash has a stranglehold on.  The longer you're on the table, the better your chances of getting picked. 

I think OWU gets in if Elmhurst AND Heidelberg lose.  They'll get to a point where the committee will have to choose between OWU's one loss vs. somebody else's two losses with a better schedule but still zero quality wins.  The tendency has been for single loss teams to go before multiple loss teams that don't have quality wins.  No promises...the committee's groupthink is subject to change from year to year.  But if Heidelberg and  Elmhurst both lose, OWU will be on the table long enough that it's hard to not get picked. 

[BashBacker#16]

For those that haven't seen a Monon Bell game (sorry I am getting ahead of myself) - love the roar of the crowd...

Raw version:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpvU-FPyGe0

Polished version:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LKtMJ_gp14&feature=related

Back to the regularly scheduled program...

[The_Bishop]

So if the Bishops take care of business against the rest of their easy schedule and Heidelberg doesn't, could not OWU still have a reasonable shot for a Pool C - at least based on the objective criteria?

Irrespective of their result against Kenyon last week and how they've generally been an enigma all season long, there's nothing easy about playing Allegheny in Meadville.  Despite Wooster being stuck in the mud this year I would say that could be a surprisingly close game in the season finale as well.  Good to see OWU still with an outside shot of making the playoffs, however.

Wabash seems to be hitting their stride and will pound DePauw.  My prediction:  Wabash - 38, DPU - 6

[nike]

So if the Bishops take care of business against the rest of their easy schedule and Heidelberg doesn't, could not OWU still have a reasonable shot for a Pool C - at least based on the objective criteria?

Irrespective of their result against Kenyon last week and how they've generally been an enigma all season long, there's nothing easy about playing Allegheny in Meadville.  Despite Wooster being stuck in the mud this year I would say that could be a surprisingly close game in the season finale as well.  Good to see OWU still with an outside shot of making the playoffs, however.

Wabash seems to be hitting their stride and will pound DePauw.  My prediction:  Wabash - 38, DPU - 6

Is that a touchdown and missed extra point or 2 field goals?

[ExTartanPlayer]

So if the Bishops take care of business against the rest of their easy schedule and Heidelberg doesn't, could not OWU still have a reasonable shot for a Pool C - at least based on the objective criteria?

Irrespective of their result against Kenyon last week and how they've generally been an enigma all season long, there's nothing easy about playing Allegheny in Meadville.  Despite Wooster being stuck in the mud this year I would say that could be a surprisingly close game in the season finale as well.  Good to see OWU still with an outside shot of making the playoffs, however.

Wabash seems to be hitting their stride and will pound DePauw.  My prediction:  Wabash - 38, DPU - 6

Is that a touchdown and missed extra point or 2 field goals?

Perhaps it will be three safeties.

[nike]

Very good!

[The_Bishop]

That's hilarious.  If OWU can't get in the end zone against Wabash neither can DePauw.  Two FGs for the Dannies and a case of Zima for their Bell Game this year.

[Wabash Hokie]

There is no way that this is not going to come off as anything but sour grapes but I am going to say it...

While I congratulate Mr. Cato for a good performance vs Wooster, I don't see how this results in being named the NCAC Offensive Player of the Week, when compared to the performances of Tyler Holmes vs OWU or Espinosa vs Wabash.  While the Green Hornet's sidekick may have had the most outstanding performance by a Dannie all season, I don't think it meets the POtW bar.

http://www.depauw.edu/athletics/mens/football/news/details/29126/

[cave2bens]

There is no way that this is not going to come off as anything but sour grapes but I am going to say it...

While I congratulate Mr. Cato for a good performance vs Wooster, I don't see how this results in being named the NCAC Offensive Player of the Week, when compared to the performances of Tyler Holmes vs OWU or Espinosa vs Wabash.  While the Green Hornet's sidekick may have had the most outstanding performance by a Dannie all season, I don't think it meets the POtW bar.

http://www.depauw.edu/athletics/mens/football/news/details/29126/

Feelings, Fairness, and Tiebreaks from Hell - This is the NCAC!   

[sigma one]

It will be a long, long time before I again will have anything positive to say about how the NCAC does anything, but they have tried consistently to move the POTW around.  This was DePauw's first NCAC win, and Cato was an important part of it.  Holmes is probably, (objectively) more deserving based on the raw numbers.  But in this case I can make some sense of their selection. Usually, they find a way during the year to honor someone from every team.  That might not result in the best performance being recognized in any particular week, and the NCAC has been open in admitting that they make their selections this way.  Otherwise, most of the time the POYW would go to a player from one of the top two or three teams in the conference as they pile up big yards or noticeable defensive efforts.
   Now, their interpretation of the HtoH criterion for determining the NCAC AQ is another matter.  I just can't get away from the suspicion, probably at much my paranoia as anything but what the heck, that they found a way to preserve the good old Ohio bias that has characterized the conference since Wabash entered when there has been a chance to favor the original grouping. Jump on me for thinking that, but there it is.
       This is sour grapes on my part. 

[bishopfootball15]

Headed up to Meadville for OWU-Allegheny...Anyone know of Bishop Backers tailgating? or is there any good local diners/eateries to go to that are where all the locals go to or has any other fellow NCAC fans been to any?
Would like ur input.

[The_Bishop]

Holmes is probably, (objectively) more deserving based on the raw numbers.

If not raw numbers, raw numbers he racked up on the road against one of the best rushing defenses in the country.

[sigma one]

Before we leave the POTW thing entirely, let's remember than Wabash's Nate Scola WAS the NCAC defensive Player of the Week for his work v. OWU:  11 total tackles, 3 tackles for loss, one and one-half sacks.  Someone from Wabash was recognized.  It would be worth researching, if only to confirm or not,  how long ago it has been since players from the same team have been POTW in the same week.  I suppose it's happened, maybe. or has it?