FB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[bashgiant]

The Bash defense is fast, strong, and bad _ _ _! The QB has a really nice touch on the short pass and although they didn't stretch the field much he did have a nice long ball in the corner of the end zone where only our guy could get it which he did. Did I mention how fast the defense is?! And Holmes what can you say he just glides thru the hole brushing off arm tackles very impressive! Somebody needs to come up with a name for this defense lets hear em!

Go Bash!

[smedindy]

Signs of life in Hiram, or is Denison not that good?

[smedindy]

14-7 at half.

Hey Wittenberg. Yeah, you. I'm lookin' at you. I'm lookin' at you right in the face.

I don't think the transitive property of scores is that useful, especially in football. I mean, do you really think Akron is better than Notre Dame, just comparing both of their scores against Michigan?

However, comparing this result (a loss to Franklin, but a noble effort) to Witt being shellacked...well...

[wally_wabash]

14-7 at half.

Hey Wittenberg. Yeah, you. I'm lookin' at you. I'm lookin' at you right in the face.

I don't think the transitive property of scores is that useful, especially in football. I mean, do you really think Akron is better than Notre Dame, just comparing both of their scores against Michigan?

However, comparing this result (a loss to Franklin, but a noble effort) to Witt being shellacked...well...

It's less the final scores than it is how it happened. Wittenberg was immediately overwhelmed by Butler's size, speed, execution, etc. Franklin took that same team and led 14-0 in the second quarter. Butler's advantages eventually won the day, but Franklin didn't get overwhelmed by it.  I don't know if it means that Witt isn't as good as we thought or Franklin is better than we may have thought even after last week...I think it means something though.

[Mr. Ypsi]

14-7 at half.

Hey Wittenberg. Yeah, you. I'm lookin' at you. I'm lookin' at you right in the face.

I don't think the transitive property of scores is that useful, especially in football. I mean, do you really think Akron is better than Notre Dame, just comparing both of their scores against Michigan?

However, comparing this result (a loss to Franklin, but a noble effort) to Witt being shellacked...well...

It's less the final scores than it is how it happened. Wittenberg was immediately overwhelmed by Butler's size, speed, execution, etc. Franklin took that same team and led 14-0 in the second quarter. Butler's advantages eventually won the day, but Franklin didn't get overwhelmed by it.  I don't know if it means that Witt isn't as good as we thought or Franklin is better than we may have thought even after last week...I think it means something though.

Well, on my national ballot it means Franklin holds steady, but Witt falls four slots without playing!

[GRIZ_BACKER]

14-7 at half.

Hey Wittenberg. Yeah, you. I'm lookin' at you. I'm lookin' at you right in the face.

I don't think the transitive property of scores is that useful, especially in football. I mean, do you really think Akron is better than Notre Dame, just comparing both of their scores against Michigan?

However, comparing this result (a loss to Franklin, but a noble effort) to Witt being shellacked...well...

It's less the final scores than it is how it happened. Wittenberg was immediately overwhelmed by Butler's size, speed, execution, etc. Franklin took that same team and led 14-0 in the second quarter. Butler's advantages eventually won the day, but Franklin didn't get overwhelmed by it.  I don't know if it means that Witt isn't as good as we thought or Franklin is better than we may have thought even after last week...I think it means something though.

Well, on my national ballot it means Franklin holds steady, but Witt falls four slots without playing!

thanks for the love  anyone that thinks the Griz are top 10-15 are kidding themselves,

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

14-7 at half.

Hey Wittenberg. Yeah, you. I'm lookin' at you. I'm lookin' at you right in the face.

I don't think the transitive property of scores is that useful, especially in football. I mean, do you really think Akron is better than Notre Dame, just comparing both of their scores against Michigan?

However, comparing this result (a loss to Franklin, but a noble effort) to Witt being shellacked...well...

It's less the final scores than it is how it happened. Wittenberg was immediately overwhelmed by Butler's size, speed, execution, etc. Franklin took that same team and led 14-0 in the second quarter. Butler's advantages eventually won the day, but Franklin didn't get overwhelmed by it.  I don't know if it means that Witt isn't as good as we thought or Franklin is better than we may have thought even after last week...I think it means something though.

Well, on my national ballot it means Franklin holds steady, but Witt falls four slots without playing!

thanks for the love  anyone that thinks the Griz are top 10-15 are kidding themselves,

In past seasons when Franklin received some love from the voters I would have agreed that they were overrated. But so far, this Franklin team has held strong against tough competition whereas in the past they'd lose those games 48-10. Time will tell if Mount is just a good team rather than MOUNT and/or whether Witt was overrated or not but based on the little available evidence so far I'm willing to say Franklin is a top 15 team but that could change as the season wears on... hopefully Franklin runs the table and wins all their conference games by at least 40 so we can really see how they stack up in the playoffs... a matchup against Wabash for Indiana supremacy in say the quarterfinals would be fun

[ExTartanPlayer]

14-7 at half.

Hey Wittenberg. Yeah, you. I'm lookin' at you. I'm lookin' at you right in the face.

I don't think the transitive property of scores is that useful, especially in football. I mean, do you really think Akron is better than Notre Dame, just comparing both of their scores against Michigan?

However, comparing this result (a loss to Franklin, but a noble effort) to Witt being shellacked...well...

It's less the final scores than it is how it happened. Wittenberg was immediately overwhelmed by Butler's size, speed, execution, etc. Franklin took that same team and led 14-0 in the second quarter. Butler's advantages eventually won the day, but Franklin didn't get overwhelmed by it.  I don't know if it means that Witt isn't as good as we thought or Franklin is better than we may have thought even after last week...I think it means something though.

Seconded. I don't think the transitive property applies, either, because football is a game of matchups and game-planning and some semi-random events that can influence a final score...but the way Wally puts it here is very nice.  It's not just about the score - it's that Witt got their doors blown off right away while Franklin was in it right up til the end. 

I wouldn't discount the possibility that Butler came out flying against Witt, and then didn't take Franklin as seriously because they figured it'd be just as easy to wallop the next Division III opponent before realizing they'd be in a dogfight.

I too hope Franklin handles business the next few weeks and gets into the playoffs.

I've said it once though - there's a part of me that wonders, by playoff time, if maybe we're putting a little TOO much stock in that close loss to Mount. Not that the Griz don't deserve credit - they do - but if there was EVER a time mount was ripe for an upset, that had to be it. I sincerely hope this isn't the case but it's possible they play again in the playoffs and mount wins by 40.

[GRIZ_BACKER]

14-7 at half.

Hey Wittenberg. Yeah, you. I'm lookin' at you. I'm lookin' at you right in the face.

I don't think the transitive property of scores is that useful, especially in football. I mean, do you really think Akron is better than Notre Dame, just comparing both of their scores against Michigan?

However, comparing this result (a loss to Franklin, but a noble effort) to Witt being shellacked...well...

It's less the final scores than it is how it happened. Wittenberg was immediately overwhelmed by Butler's size, speed, execution, etc. Franklin took that same team and led 14-0 in the second quarter. Butler's advantages eventually won the day, but Franklin didn't get overwhelmed by it.  I don't know if it means that Witt isn't as good as we thought or Franklin is better than we may have thought even after last week...I think it means something though.

Well, on my national ballot it means Franklin holds steady, but Witt falls four slots without playing!

thanks for the love  anyone that thinks the Griz are top 10-15 are kidding themselves,

In past seasons when Franklin received some love from the voters I would have agreed that they were overrated. But so far, this Franklin team has held strong against tough competition whereas in the past they'd lose those games 48-10. Time will tell if Mount is just a good team rather than MOUNT and/or whether Witt was overrated or not but based on the little available evidence so far I'm willing to say Franklin is a top 15 team but that could change as the season wears on... hopefully Franklin runs the table and wins all their conference games by at least 40 so we can really see how they stack up in the playoffs... a matchup against Wabash for Indiana supremacy in say the quarterfinals would be fun

several libations caused a proofing error.  I meant "aren't" instead of "are".  I didnt mean to crap on the Griz!!  LOL

[BayernFan]

Will Franklin improve its poll standing each of the last two weeks despite losing both games and starting the season 0-2?

[Geezer Citizen]

Really tough to say just how good Wabash is, because Hanover was so inept. When a punter has his punt blocked by the back of his back field protecter and recovered by the opponent in the end zone for a TD on a team's  first series of downs,  one might suspect  that a bad day was looming.

In my humble, but accurate opinion, it would be unseemly to accuse Wabash of running up the score when som many scores came as a result of good defense.

It is interesting to note that ER did not have permit his second team offense throw one pass after they entered the fray late in the third quarter. It is also interesting to note that Hanover's second string QB did not throw a pass after suffering three interceptions. No doubt, the Hanover coach wanted to get out of town quietly and quickly.

Bash defense looks charateristically strong. In all probability, offense will come along. Putko did not go deep very often, but he certainly got into a grove. Tyler Holmes was a stud at RB.

All in all, it was an enjoyable experience on a beautiful day.

[wally_wabash]

Oberlin leads CWRU 7-0 at the half. Go Yeo!

[The_Bishop]

Anyone know the reason for the Sunday game on the schedule?

[ADL70]

Yom Kippur   No lights at Oberlin for Sat night game.

[Li'l Giant]

And the interwebs found me THIS article about the schedule change, which appears to have been for all events yesterday, not just football.