FB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[firstdown]

The severity of the penalty imposed on HH was a direct result of and in blatant revenge by a group of very unprofessional refs.  They had a badly missed an earlier call and the Wabash faithful had booed them severely.  The refs, rather than shrugging the matter off as professionals decided to extract revenge on this and a later interference call in the end zone with the ball uncatchable.  Free Houston.  The NCAC office should not permit this to stand.

[nike]

If you look carefully, you can see a number of hits like that in every game, high school, college or pro.  Just the way it is.  How can a refs make consistent calls on hits like that with everything happening so fast?  They can't.

[old scot]

Bad call. Bash player did make a high hit but, did not target the head. He did stand over the player for a second but, did not celebrate the hit.
Men, this is football, a contact sport, played with emotion.
I like what Mike Ditka has said about making the game safer. Take the facemask off the helmet.

[bashgiant]

Bad call. Bash player did make a high hit but, did not target the head. He did stand over the player for a second but, did not celebrate the hit.
Men, this is football, a contact sport, played with emotion.
I like what Mike Ditka has said about making the game safer. Take the facemask off the helmet.

I wonder if rugby has a concussion problem?

[bashgiant]

If Hanover beats Franklin would that help Wabash as far as getting in the tournament? If so would it be a big boost? I am pretty sure it would help with Bash SOS but how much would it hurt Franklin? Hey anything can happen.....right?

[The_Bishop]

I'm sorry, but NFW on the penalty that was called on that hit.  I couldn't slow the video down but the tackler's head was to the side of the receivers helmet/facemask.  NFW.

More concerning was the big yawn from #72 for Wabash on the sidelines just before that play.

[bashbrother]

Flag Football with no tailgating or large sodas, no mascot names, with a revised national anthem coming to a College or University near you.  Oh Yeah... Games to be played on Sundays.

They will move the National Flag Football League (NFFL) games to Tuesdays and Thursdays at 10 pm. 

(This is obviously an over-reaction to a call... that I believe was an very bad over-reaction and an NCAC or NCAA review board that was afraid of doing the right thing... for the sake of making some kind of point)

Believe it or not,  I am over the fact that we got beat on Saturday...Witt was better on that day.  I am not over the theft of a game from a student athlete..

[BashDad]

Am I alone in seeing the silver lining here? The 2nd half of a rivalry (-ish) game will actually be interesting now.

[bashbrother]

Am I alone in seeing the silver lining here? The 2nd half of a rivalry (-ish) game will actually be interesting now.

True....  Hmmm... The glass is half full 

[sigma one]

Hodges will not play in the first half on Saturday.  Neither will Woods because even though his ejection was in the first half, and thus the normal outcome would be sitting out the second half, someone at the NCAC has decided to impose an additional half a game as further punishment. 
     If it is the case, I do not think that such an additional penalty has been imposed before on any player in the conference.  So, this would be without precedence.  I am not positive about the additional time off, but pretty close.
     While Woods' infraction was a bonehead move, Cunningham, on the receiving end, was not injured; he walked away.  If you have a chance to see the tape, Cunningham made several gestures, one a throwing up his hand several times signaling that Woods should be ejected.  The other gesture was clapping about the penalty or the ejection (not sure which). Sour grapes, maybe, but the hand signal about ejection was clearly unsportsmanlike, a kind of taunting I would suppose.  No referee reacted. 
     I'm usually silent about the refs because I believe that most times the wrongs even out.  I agree that the call in the end zone was interference, but should have been waved off because the ball was long gone out of the end zone.  The receiver would have had to be 9- or 10-feet tall to make the grab.
     All this said, Wittenberg was better, much better.  Those officiating errors did not decide the game.  But they showed a lack of judgment that makes fans doubt their competence in other situations.  I don't recall watching a game in which one side or the other was not afflicted by bad calls, but the fact that Hodges' hit was not overturned so that he could play in the first half on Saturday speaks to me of the conference's reluctance to say that refs make mistakes that cause a player to miss time.  That's too bad.
       

[cave2bens]

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To a lesser extent, yes.  The threat of sin-binning (and playing short-handed) and additional suspensions for high tackles and those without wrapping arms, coupled with "penalty possession" serves as a deterrent to short-sighted idiocy between teams.  More often, concussions/broken noses/split eyebrows are picked up in the loose rucks (though this has been addressed with law changes over the last decade) or inadvertent collisions.

Agree with most of the posters regarding penal severity for Hodges.  However, also firmly believe that excessive woofing and strutting like a bantam rooster after smacking someone or prancing around the end zone reaps its own rewards.  Guess age is showing, but what happened to self-satisfaction for a well executed job and reserving celebratory high jinks for post-game?  Thank you, NFL. 

#freeHouston                                           WAF!

[Turtle Head]

I personally thought the interference call in the end zone possibly would've been waived off until your coach completely overreacted and ran out onto the field to dispute the call and got flagged.  #9 deserves what he got, he swung and a player on a play out in the wide open, quite possibly the dirtiest play I've seen this year.

[bashgiant]

I personally thought the interference call in the end zone possibly would've been waived off until your coach completely overreacted and ran out onto the field to dispute the call and got flagged.  #9 deserves what he got, he swung and a player on a play out in the wide open, quite possibly the dirtiest play I've seen this year.

Nice first post. Whats your motive? 9 barely grazed the kids chest as I was standing on sidelines about 15 yards from the play. It was not a very smart move that's for sure. Last year there were 2 seperate incidents in the NCAC where a player punched another player in the helmet and they were ejected for the rest of the game but did not have to sit out anymore than that go figure. You want to see something dirty watch Witt game film at around the 38 minute mark. 2 Witt players stand Putko up while a third hit em in the head a flag was thrown but no ejection.

[sigma one]

You get no argument from me on #9's penalty.   As to the diriest play of the year, maybe the dirtiest you've seen, but not even close to the dirtiest I've seen, either this year or over several years.  The idea of increasing the length of a suspension will be closely watched as th NCAC has seemingly sent a message that it can, and will, increase the stated penalty as an occasion calls for.  Whether this particular penalty called for the increase is debatable since the other player was not injured.  I suppose there will always be some debate over what is deserved, as it is difficult to compare situations and severity. 
     On the interference call:  because a coach lobbies for the call, then the refs should not call it?  They should be upset and decide not to make the call because they don't appreciate a coach trying to make sure they should?  I think coach Raeburn was ahead of almost everyone in anticipating they would not call the wave off, and so was trying to make sure they were paying attention.  So either they were not paying attention, or missed the obvious, or were sending the coach a mesage not to lobby, or saying to the coach we don't like your attitude, so we will teach you a lesson (whoa)? I believe the Wittenberg would probably have scored on that drive anyway, but you never know.

[ExTartanPlayer]

Agree with most of the posters regarding penal severity for Hodges.  However, also firmly believe that excessive woofing and strutting like a bantam rooster after smacking someone or prancing around the end zone reaps its own rewards.  Guess age is showing, but what happened to self-satisfaction for a well executed job and reserving celebratory high jinks for post-game?  Thank you, NFL. 

I have mixed feelings on in-game celebrations and woofing.  Much as we have alluded previously re: the passion of fans on this board, nor do I think passion and celebration need be legislated out of on-field gameplay.  However, where I draw the line is celebrations that are clearly designed to show up the other team or draw attention to oneself.  If you make a big hit, turn, chest-bump your teammates, I see no issue because you're finding a teammate to celebrate a big play.  I was notorious for being the first to greet any RB/WR that had scored a touchdown (a trait which led to my only "photographic" appearance on this site: http://d3football.com/columns/around-the-nation/2006/carnegie-mellon-tartans-have-new-team-to-remember) with a hearty high-five and bearhug, and because of that I can live with some exuberance shown after big plays as long as you're celebrating with your teammates rather than mugging for the crowd or, worst of all, deliberately showing up the opposition.