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[ADL70]

I hate that overtime statistic totals count. Percentages and per play average are okay (yds/carry, etc.)
And the overtime winner should just get one point not all the points scored in OT.  Which would mean Witt wins 39-38. The overtime periods are more like overtime PKs in soccer. The current system skews per game stats. 

[Edit]    I'm also reminded that rushing, receiving, or passing stats on two-point PATs don't count.  And they only count two-points if goal line is crossed not six.  So there is president for some plays not to count in stat totals.

[CollegeGolf18]

I hate that overtime statistic totals count. Percentages and per play average are okay (yds/carry, etc.)
And the overtime winner should just get one point not all the points scored in OT.  Which would mean Witt wins 39-38. The overtime periods are more like overtime PKs in soccer. The current system skews per game stats.

It does make the offensive numbers pop, that's for sure.

But statistically their defenses look awful.

[smedindy]

Overtime and extra time stats count in every sport. Only in shootouts do they not add a goal.

[Li'l Giant]

Overtime and extra time stats count in every sport. Only in shootouts do they not add a goal.

Sure, but in hoops they don't play only in the halfcourt. And in baseball (except the minors) they don't start extra innings with runners on base.

The football OT is a significant modification of the ordinary play rules. I actually like the NFL OT system. 

[smedindy]

Overtime and extra time stats count in every sport. Only in shootouts do they not add a goal.

Sure, but in hoops they don't play only in the halfcourt. And in baseball (except the minors) they don't start extra innings with runners on base.

The football OT is a significant modification of the ordinary play rules. I actually like the NFL OT system.

I mean, ties are OK in my eyes, but there's not really that much more yardage you can put up on a 25 yard field vs. a 100 yard field.

[ADL70]

I know the Witt-Den game is an exception to the usual 1-2 OTs, but 3 of Kennedy's 7 TD passes were in OT. And 17 of 74 plays were in OT., nearly an extra quarter.

[wally_wabash]

I know the Witt-Den game is an exception to the usual 1-2 OTs, but 3 of Kennedy's 7 TD passes were in OT. And 17 of 74 plays were in OT., nearly an extra quarter.

He did actually throw all of those passes, so I think it's fair that he gets credit for them.  Kennedy and Gebele are both outstanding senior quarterbacks that traded sick plays back and forth.  I'm not in on trying to dilute one of the best games in years with yeah-buts.  Those guys were awesome last night. 

[ADL70]

That wasn't yeah-but.  I'm happy to credit them with a TDs/Att or any per attempt stat.

How about this, two overtimes (if needed) just like now, then two point conversion tries until a winner is determined?  That would be similar to the current OT in NCAA soccer.

[wally_wabash]

That wasn't yeah-but.  I'm happy to credit them with a TDs/Att or any per attempt stat.

How about this, two overtimes (if needed) just like now, then two point conversion tries until a winner is determined?  That would be similar to the current OT in NCAA soccer.

Is TDs/attempt even a thing?  I guess I don't understand who loses if Jake Kennedy gets full credit for throwing touchdowns in overtimes. 

I believe NCAA soccer plays two extra periods and declares the contest a tie if neither team is ahead at the end of the two extra periods.  In the tournament, obviously you can't have a tie, so you get penalty kicks which is a terrible way to determine a winner.  It's like determining the winner of a Final Four game with a game of H-O-R-S-E.  I don't think I want to see a football game come down to who can figure out how to stop the Philly Special (answer: apparently nobody).  I do think, after 20-ish years of NCAA overtime, they don't need to start the period with the ball on the 25.  They could push it back some or adopt the current NFL rules which I think are fine. 

[bowwowindy!]

Witt definitely looked as  if they haven't had to play a 2nd half in a while.  Denison really controlled the line of scrimmage on both side of the ball and Kennedy and receiving corp, especially Tiffner, really bailed them out.  Glad they figured it out in OT.  Hats off to Denison on sticking with what they do running and throwing the football to get themselves back in the game.  Certainly was a game to remember!

[USee]

That wasn't yeah-but.  I'm happy to credit them with a TDs/Att or any per attempt stat.

How about this, two overtimes (if needed) just like now, then two point conversion tries until a winner is determined?  That would be similar to the current OT in NCAA soccer.

Is TDs/attempt even a thing?  I guess I don't understand who loses if Jake Kennedy gets full credit for throwing touchdowns in overtimes. 

I believe NCAA soccer plays two extra periods and declares the contest a tie if neither team is ahead at the end of the two extra periods.  In the tournament, obviously you can't have a tie, so you get penalty kicks which is a terrible way to determine a winner.  It's like determining the winner of a Final Four game with a game of H-O-R-S-E.  I don't think I want to see a football game come down to who can figure out how to stop the Philly Special (answer: apparently nobody).  I do think, after 20-ish years of NCAA overtime, they don't need to start the period with the ball on the 25.  They could push it back some or adopt the current NFL rules which I think are fine.

Even worse would be if football games were decided at the end by FG attempts in shootout style. That would be ridiculous (like soccer)

[smedindy]

The issue with full football overtimes is fatigue. That's why the NFL only has one period. When they've had playoff games go to the second OT players were extra fatigued and could be prone to injury.

Frankly, we're talking about stats, which is a minor consequence (oh, am I saying that). I much prefer the college OT to the pro OT. If college did the pro OT you'd have a lot of ties due to bad kickers.

[aueagle]

With OWU sitting at 1-3, the game versus the Lords
Is key...Bishops have a shot at 2, maybe 3 more wins
left this season. I've seen them twice & can't figure them out.

[sigma one]

OWU has confused many of us so far.  The are averaging about 12 points per game.  They have rushed for a total of 62 yards on the season (0.5 yards per rush).  They are averaging 233 offensive yards per game.  On the other hand, they have played good defense, their opponents averaging 20 points per game.  They lost to DePauw  38-17, but held the Tigers to about 230 yards total. They held Otterbein to 10 points (a 10-7 loss, though in fairness Ott has scored no more than 14 points in any of its games so far), and Wooster to 7 in their only win. 
     This week it's Kenyon.  Over on the NCAC pick ems board Wally Wabash has OWU at -27.5.  That's about 4 TDs.  Question is whether OWU can generate enough offense while slowing down Kenyon's passing game.  This should be a win for the Bishops and a chance to show more on offense.  After Saturday, they have Wabash, then Denison.  They come off an upset of Wabash last year, so that game will be interesting. 
     All in all, they are performing well below par offensively and solidly defensively.   

[83 Little Giant]

For those of you who are interested, below is the link to the Wabash game notes for this weekend's match up at Denison.  Given Denison's performance against Witt last week, this should be a good game to watch.

https://sports.wabash.edu/documents/2018/10/4//2018WabashFootballGamenotesVsDenison.pdf