FB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[smedindy]

Dude, I'm class of 1988. Don't recognize your name. I also worked in University Advancement from 2000-2007. Don't recognize the name in the database.

You're a liar and a phony and a fraud.

I don't agree with some thoughts on the current coach. I've been through a lot since 1984 (freshman year) and before Navarro (lived in town). We may be spoiled by success. But, as far as I can remember, the football team has anywhere from 95-120 men on it, even in the lean years. We used to (in my era) throw a lot of financial aid around and accepted a lot more than we do now. We're more selective in all aspects, while still maintaining a financial aid package that allows most all students to attend with reasonable expense. (Thanks to the alumni and donors for a nice endowment).

The big change as far as I see is that Wabash now retains ex-athletes as students at a nice percentage.

That being said, Wabash 27, DPU 20. Or, in my dreams, Wabash 42,238, DPU -78

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

My name is Richard Ligmuh

Well that's sillier than the original post.

Normally I wouldn't approve someone whose email address was "boardpostingtroll" but I thought, hell, it's rivalry week. Maybe just for a moment, huh?

[TigerKing]

Dude, I'm class of 1988. Don't recognize your name. I also worked in University Advancement from 2000-2007. Don't recognize the name in the database.

You're a liar and a phony and a fraud.

I don't agree with some thoughts on the current coach. I've been through a lot since 1984 (freshman year) and before Navarro (lived in town). We may be spoiled by success. But, as far as I can remember, the football team has anywhere from 95-120 men on it, even in the lean years. We used to (in my era) throw a lot of financial aid around and accepted a lot more than we do now. We're more selective in all aspects, while still maintaining a financial aid package that allows most all students to attend with reasonable expense. (Thanks to the alumni and donors for a nice endowment).

The big change as far as I see is that Wabash now retains ex-athletes as students at a nice percentage.

That being said, Wabash 27, DPU 20. Or, in my dreams, Wabash 42,238, DPU -78

You might not know Richard, but you've probably met his brothers Peter and Rod.  Just for fun, maybe give the old Bob&Tom song "Paging Richard Smoker" a listen on YouTube today!

[ExTartanPlayer]

I fear smedindy's sarcasm detector is broken if he didn't catch that Richard Ligmuh...never mind

[Pat Coleman]

In Smedindy's defense, I deleted the post where 3/1 posted his punch line.

[Whitecarrera]

Come on Pat - no need to worry about mild offenses (especially this week).  If a Wabash man can't take a good Richard joke, then who can?

...and yes, Tartan, some of us have a better grasp on the old sarcasm game than Smed does, but that's okay -- he's got plenty of other merits.   

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

My name is Michael Hunt.  I never played at Depauw or Wabash, but I was a teammate of Eric Raeburn. 

[Pat Coleman]

Come on PAT - no need to worry about mild offenses (especially this week).  If a Wabash man can't take a good Richard joke, then who can?

...and yes, Tartan, some of us have a better grasp on the old sarcasm game than Smed does, but that's okay -- he's got plenty of other merits.

Nah, man -- the post I deleted was nuts.

[hcdawg804]

It's been 4yrs since I officially joined this board, and 4yrs since I posted. Although I check this board daily in season and weekly out of season.

Ain't **** changed but the location, and sometimes that don't change. Hiram is still in the basement of the NCAC and D3 as a whole. I got an interesting stat for you guys. During Mroz's tenure they have gone 4-29. But that's not my stat.

2023: Beat Oberlin 27-19. Yeomen on the verge of going 1-9 down in Gambier this weekend.
2022: Beat 0-10 Oberlin and Hilbert 59-27. Hilbert has yet to win a game in program history (still not my stat). In 15 games Hilbert has scored no more than 27pts in a game, doing so twice. Other game was against Lyon.
2021: Beat 1-9 Bethany 41-21.

In the past 3 seasons Hiram has put up 588pts, and given up 1209pts. That is my stat. This season alone, 154/432.

So yea, nothing has changed. I'll give Mroz one more year. Hiram always has great players, every team does. But as I've said before, if you do not have a good leader in a HC, you will not succeed. But how do you get a good HC? By having ppl higher up in the institution that actually care about the football program. I know there a plenty of alums that want Hiram football to succeed. I just don't know if the right ppl are in place at Hiram College for the football team to ever achieve a conference title in the NCAC.

Hiram played against three potential playoff teams this season. Lost to Depauw 49-0, Wabash 52-13, and Mt St Joes 62-21. Those three teams are good but put them up against NC, Mount, WIAC teams etc they probably wouldn't do too well. Point being, Hiram has a long ladder to climb. They just need to get to the first check point, a winning season.

Obviously the game I'm tuning into this weekend for the NCAC is between the Indy teams. Don't care who wins just wanna see a good game. I guess if you held a gun to my head and forced me to pick a winner, I would go with Wabash because I would like to see what Thompson can do in the playoffs (I think he played in 2019 against North Central but was a freshman). Never seen him play in person but his stats are good, and everyone on here talks highly of him. D3 football had a nice little spotlight on him earlier this season.

One last side note... I see Depauw has scheduled Berry next season. That's a solid non conference opponent. Would like to see Berry get an "at large" this weekend, but doesn't seen promising.

[Pat Coleman]

Thanks for listening to the podcast.

[ExTartanPlayer]

It's been 4yrs since I officially joined this board, and 4yrs since I posted. Although I check this board daily in season and weekly out of season.

Ain't **** changed but the location, and sometimes that don't change. Hiram is still in the basement of the NCAC and D3 as a whole. I got an interesting stat for you guys. During Mroz's tenure they have gone 4-29. But that's not my stat.

2023: Beat Oberlin 27-19. Yeomen on the verge of going 1-9 down in Gambier this weekend.
2022: Beat 0-10 Oberlin and Hilbert 59-27. Hilbert has yet to win a game in program history (still not my stat). In 15 games Hilbert has scored no more than 27pts in a game, doing so twice. Other game was against Lyon.
2021: Beat 1-9 Bethany 41-21.

In the past 3 seasons Hiram has put up 588pts, and given up 1209pts. That is my stat. This season alone, 154/432.

So yea, nothing has changed. I'll give Mroz one more year. Hiram always has great players, every team does. But as I've said before, if you do not have a good leader in a HC, you will not succeed. But how do you get a good HC? By having ppl higher up in the institution that actually care about the football program. I know there a plenty of alums that want Hiram football to succeed. I just don't know if the right ppl are in place at Hiram College for the football team to ever achieve a conference title in the NCAC.

Hiram played against three potential playoff teams this season. Lost to Depauw 49-0, Wabash 52-13, and Mt St Joes 62-21. Those three teams are good but put them up against NC, Mount, WIAC teams etc they probably wouldn't do too well. Point being, Hiram has a long ladder to climb. They just need to get to the first check point, a winning season.

Obviously the game I'm tuning into this weekend for the NCAC is between the Indy teams. Don't care who wins just wanna see a good game. I guess if you held a gun to my head and forced me to pick a winner, I would go with Wabash because I would like to see what Thompson can do in the playoffs (I think he played in 2019 against North Central but was a freshman). Never seen him play in person but his stats are good, and everyone on here talks highly of him. D3 football had a nice little spotlight on him earlier this season.

One last side note... I see Depauw has scheduled Berry next season. That's a solid non conference opponent. Would like to see Berry get an "at large" this weekend, but doesn't seen promising.

Such a bummer.  A couple of years ago they graduated their best class in (recent) program history and for a brief moment it looked like something was happening (not exactly "playoff contender" but rising from "bottom feeder" to "middle of the pack" - the 2014 team finished 5-5 and actually beat not one but two teams that finished the season with winning records, Denison and OWU both finished 6-4).  IIRC they had a transfer QB (Partridge? that name seems right to me) from a D2 school and of course he was a catalyst but the whole team looked better for a few years.  I know somebody has to finish last in the league in any given season, but yeah it's a bummer to see the same team or two always going 1-9 and 0-10.

Oddly enough, I have two fond memories of playing at Hiram.  The very first game of my freshman season was at Hiram and I was on the kickoff return team so my very first collegiate play was the opening kickoff of that season.  The first game of my junior season (which ended with us in the playoffs) was a Mud Bowl at Hiram where we slogged to a 27-6 win despite only leading 10-0 at the half.  I still do recall it as a neat little place to play a game.  Shame they haven't been able to get anything going.

[smedindy]

Dude, I'm class of 1988. Don't recognize your name. I also worked in University Advancement from 2000-2007. Don't recognize the name in the database.

You're a liar and a phony and a fraud.

I don't agree with some thoughts on the current coach. I've been through a lot since 1984 (freshman year) and before Navarro (lived in town). We may be spoiled by success. But, as far as I can remember, the football team has anywhere from 95-120 men on it, even in the lean years. We used to (in my era) throw a lot of financial aid around and accepted a lot more than we do now. We're more selective in all aspects, while still maintaining a financial aid package that allows most all students to attend with reasonable expense. (Thanks to the alumni and donors for a nice endowment).

The big change as far as I see is that Wabash now retains ex-athletes as students at a nice percentage.

That being said, Wabash 27, DPU 20. Or, in my dreams, Wabash 42,238, DPU -78

You might not know Richard, but you've probably met his brothers Peter and Rod.  Just for fun, maybe give the old Bob&Tom song "Paging Richard Smoker" a listen on YouTube today!

It's been a week. Too many files flying around my desk, too many revisions, not enough lead time. Ye Gods!

[CollegeGolf18]

First and only time poster here.

When Wabash wins the Bell, how dumb are all you out of touch, multiple divorce/DUI-having, pompous old men going to feel? I'm embarrassed as a Wabash alum that guys like a former dean are on this board trashing a staff that literally recruits a third of the campus every year. Or that guys with more divorces than Bell wins think they have anything to add to this conversation. Half of you critics, like that fat failed golfer, couldn't point out a 3 tech if they had to. Do the fans and alums a favor and stay home.

If you're talking about me here. I wasn't failed LOL

[Crawford]

Bell Game, what a 1st quarter!  I've never seen a player with two jersey numbers, Enrique Ruiz #41 and 64.  Can anyone remember seeing that before?

[WAF-WDE]

Wabash and DePaul tied at 27.  Wabash has the ball and 3 time outs -  1st and 10 at their own 8 yard line.  1:58 to play. Let's GO!  WAF!