FB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[Li'l Giant]

How dare you make light of my daughter's service, in the Qatar and Iraq, at this moment.

By the way, the shot on Recce's daughter was pretty classless.

I am Army, I was in the Middle East. He's AF, and he was over there too. Want to take some shots at us too?

By no means am I saying that we, as service members should be immume from criticism, nor should "playing the military card" end all discussions. I am simply asking that you support those who are serving, not use them as a cheap shot in a petty football argument.

First, to Recce and JK, I don't recall anyone making light of anyone's military service. A guy that went to Wabash when GoBash and I were there died in Afghanistan earlier this year. I have a cousin and several friends over there. No one made light of anyone for serving in the armed forces.

Recce started the "girls" and "skirts" stuff before anyone made mention of his daughter. GoBash's father is a WWII hero. Don't think he would disrespect a member of our military. That's not where he was going. I'm sure GB can defend himself from that later when he's around. I don't need to do it for him.

Yes, the OAC is superior to the NCAC. We know that. But who likes winners who can't just enjoy looking at the scoreboard but have to denigrate the rest of the region and the rest of D3 by talking as some do every year about the mythical all-OAC Stagg Bowl?

Is it not enough that we all respect what MUC and the OAC have done on the field, we have to hate you guys too? Its not like it's unprovoked. You don't hear people calling fans of any of the other elite programs in D3 a bunch of conceited jerks. Why is that? There's plenty of blame to go around here but it's not all on us.

And, instead, watch the DI-AA playoffs. Texas State is on a roll.

[gobash]

By the way, the shot on Recce's daughter was pretty classless.

Fair enough, but in defense, I missed that she was in the service, too.  I have nothing but respect for those in the forces.  Was just a stupid joke making fun of his fervor for going to Hooters.

I guess I lost track of that in the 10-12 mentionings that he was going to Hooters, because, you know, he's obviously a heterosexual, and no one can ever doubt that.  I mean he was going to Hooters afterall.  Can't have anyone thinking otherwise, can we?  Between that and the constant referring to us as "girls" to display his blatant homophobia, methinks Reece has some unresolved issues.

[gobash]

Can I take any 100 of of you and make one contributing soul?
(I am REALLY going to Hooter's now.  God forbid that there are any 'Bash girls serving me there!!!)

Reece,
  Consider for a minute that there are many different ways to contribute to your country.  I've spent the better part of 25 years getting an education in science so that I can help further medicine and health care in the world.  I fail to see how working for this position would constitute a silver spoon in my mouth.  I respect what those in the service have done for us and this country, but it's not like the rest of us stateside are sitting on our ass watching "Becker".

And don't worry about running into any women affiliated with Wabash at Hooters, unless they're there with the local board of health for an inspection.

[smedindy]

Reccespynav lost all of his credibility with his petulant namecalling and blatant disregard of the history of this board, which has discussed more broad based football issues than over at the OAC board - where one must kowtow to the mighty Purple lest their karma be smited.


But of course he will be a cheap shot hit and run artist and never read these musings. Alas, the artistans of football talk must suffer inequities whilst the unschooled masses reap the rewards. Sigh...

Excuse me while I read some Proust and genuflect towards Nietzche.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Reccespynav lost all of his credibility with his petulant namecalling and blatant disregard of the history of this board, which has discussed more broad based football issues than over at the OAC board - where one must kowtow to the mighty Purple lest their karma be smited.


But of course he will be a cheap shot hit and run artist and never read these musings. Alas, the artistans of football talk must suffer inequities whilst the unschooled masses reap the rewards. Sigh...

Excuse me while I read some Proust and genuflect towards Nietzche.

Nice one, Smed - I 'applaud' thee!

Though I have some qualms about your choices on the 'canon' - perhaps read some Shakespeare or Moliere, and genuflect towards Kant or Hobbes (the REAL Hobbes, not that 'dumbed down' version that most students are taught)!

[DarkSide-D]

I for one, Have many friends from high school who have fought, and died in Iraq.  I have a couple of friends from college, who served in Iraq.  One in particular, a female, served two tours in Iraq.  I doubt that anyone from the NCAC casts a bad light on any of our service men and women.

As for the OAC dominating the NCAC.  Lets think about his years final between Cap and Bash, then Mount and Cap.  Then, lets think about last years Woo Carthage and Mount Carthage game.  In both years, the NCAC faired exceptionally well, barely losing to a team that gave mount all they wanted.  Woo shut down Carthage, who ran all over mount.  Bash fought Cap to the bitter end, and cap gave it to Mount pretty good.  As far as the OAC v. NCAC, it would only work beyond the top teams, maybe top two teams.  Mount ALWAYS wins the OAC, where as no one team dominates the NCAC anymore.  The middle and bottom teams would remain competitive, but at the top, where the previous teams #1 would always be Mount for OAC, and the Returning champ from the NCAC would finish the next season at second or third, even fourth or fifth, it would look like the OAC was truly superior.  Thus, if you take out the #1s, which would be Mount v whoever...the NCAC could and would hang with the OAC!

[DarkSide-D]

Of course, that is just my humble opinion

[WallyFS4]

We can't lump all of the OAC together.  I thought Cap showed a lot of class in thier victory last week.  I for one know who the a$$ holes of the OAC are, and they wear purple.  Until someone steps ups from the NCAC and beats the pr!cks.  We are going to eat thier garbage.  So until next year.  As always.

WABASH ALWAYS FIGHTS![/size][/font]

[jdean]

Wally FS4
Oops--Cap also wears purple so maybe you better be more specific.

Darkside D
Take Mount out so you can have another Cap-Witt matchup?

What is the shame in not being able to beat the OAC in football? You guys usually get the best of us in basketball. Don't know about other sports but I'm sure Kenyon kills any of them in swimming.

[JK]

Darkside D,

Really?  You think the NCAC would win any of these games?

1's: MUC v. Wabash
2's: CAP v. Kenyon
3's: ONU v. OWU
4's: JCU v. Witt
5's: OTT v. WOO
6's: 'Etta v. Denison
7's: BW v. 'Gheny
8's: Musky v. Oberlin
9's: Wilma v. Hiram
10's: Berg v. Earlham

Interesting 9 vs. 9 game:  The team who left the OAC because they weren't competitve vs. the non-competitive team that replaced them.

[DarkSide-D]

I think those would all be very good games.  Wabash would definately compete with Mount.  I think they could even pull one out.  Strike game two.  Kenyon would get blasted.  3-5, I think, would be great games and competitive.  I don't know anything about Mariette, so I wont comment on game 6.  We know about game 7, it happened and it was close ending in OT.  The bottom feeders, I think we can all agree, would be toss ups.

I neve said that the NCAC would win all the games, I said they would hang.  And in these match-ups, I see good games.  And yes, I see some wins for the NCAC.  Of course, as I said, with the exception of Mount, each team would have trouble reloading each year.  Take Cap next year.  where will they be without their stud QB? 

If only we could scrap that horsesh!t plan we, the NCAC, have with the UAA and play the OAC.

[gobash]

(the REAL Hobbes, not that 'dumbed down' version that most students are taught)

Yeah, the stuffed tiger, not that lame philosopher guy.

And that leads me to say this...Kenyon is the only other school in Division 3 that I am jealous of, and it's because they helped to produce Bill Waterson.

[Li'l Giant]

What is the shame in not being able to beat the OAC in football? You guys usually get the best of us in basketball.

I don't think anyone is ashamed. I think it's frustration. We want to beat the best. We all know who the best in the region is. It's a challenge. And when we fall short, we're disappointed and frustrated. That's what gets my goat about some of the sniping that comes our way. Our desire to beat the OAC is out of respect for what Mount Union and the rest of the OAC elites have done on the field. And that gets us dumped on for our trouble.

[smedindy]

If only we could scrap that horsesh!t plan we, the NCAC, have with the UAA and play the OAC.

Uh, three of the four UAA teams have pretty decent power ratings, actually. Not world beaters, but decent.

And Case beat three NCAC teams this year.

And Wabash wouldn't be able to play because they never play on week one.

[ScotsFan]

I was just browsing through the OAC board and man, are they a bunch of conceded a$$ holes or what?!

This isn't about OAC vs. NCAC?  ScotsFan generalized and then attacked our character.  I was simply defending us.

Sorry I wasn't more specific.  What I should of said was, "Are MUC FANS a bunch of conceded a$$ holes or what?!"

I seem to recall on more than one occasion, where the NCAC representative had given MUC all they could handle in the playoffs.  MUC would roll through, then struggle to beat the NCAC rep, and roll on to the National Champinonship.  So don't tell me that the NCAC can't compete!!!   I just get sick of hearing every year how the Stagg bowl would have been better had it been "All OAC"!  I guess last year's Stagg Bowl must've really sucked for you MUC/OAC lovers!!!