FB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[usee]

Well, yes, of course. If Case does lose, seedings go to seed. Wash U. would then shove the IBC winner to the west, I think, unless they match up Wash U and Whitewater in the first round.

actually, washu is in the south region. so case would be a pool c candidate and may only go from hosting franklin to visiting them.

[smedindy]

Wash U is in the south region, but in order to save on plane fare the NCAA would probably move teams around. They've done it before.

[bashbrother]

I know this is completely off the football, playoff etc. track, but I just ran across a list of the Most Expensive College/Universities in the US.

http://images.businessweek.com/ss/07/10/1023_college_tutions/index_01.htm

Kenyon is number 4.

Back to you regularly scheduled programming. 

[Witt4ever]

I know this is completely off the football, playoff etc. track, but I just ran across a list of the Most Expensive College/Universities in the US.

http://images.businessweek.com/ss/07/10/1023_college_tutions/index_01.htm

Kenyon is number 4.

Back to you regularly scheduled programming. 

I guess Business Week has not checked Wittenberg lately.

http://www4.wittenberg.edu/administration/financial_aid/tuition.html

[formerd3db]

bashbrother and Witt4ever:

First, thanks BB for posting that article, very interesting.  Also, I agree with Witt4ever.  Seems to me the Businessweek hasn't checked out some of the other schools either that have tuitions at least as high (if not higher) than the 10 listed.  While I do not have the time right now to check those aspects out specifically (although I will try to), as I recall, when we were checking schools out about 4 years ago for our daughters, there were several private schools and/or universities that were in the range of those 10 listed (and higher) already - perhaps they have decreased their costs a bit, although I doubt it although again, without checking right now, I could be wrong.  Yet as I recall, Davidson, Denison, Ohio Weslyan, Rose-Hulman, were right up there with Kenyon (I thought that Rose and Davidson were already in the 40's then as was Northwestern).  Regardless, while those listed in BW are all great schools, the cost of a college education at smalls schools is indeed very expensive (it is too at state universities, but as we all know, both types are expensive for families in today's world), which makes some of the colleges here in our state of Michigan a bargin!   Anyway, thanks again for posting the info - very informative.   

[bashbrother]

Business Week listed only Tuition and fees (from what I read, room and board were not in those numbers).....meaning Witt would not make the list they put together.  Witt is still very expensive. 

[DagarmanSpartan]

Case was expensive, but as I recall, it also gives more financial aid and scholarships than just about any school I've seen.

A surprisingly large number of its students come from relatively modest backgrounds.

[cave2bens]

Hmmm - no Oberlin?  In 2005, a list from US News had them ranked first, ahead of Kenyon, CWRU, Denison, OWU, and COW respectively in the OH, MI, IN region.

All these rank discussions - aren't there a couple of regular season games still out there?    Beat down Denison, and bring on the Dannies!

[usee]

Wash U is in the south region, but in order to save on plane fare the NCAA would probably move teams around. They've done it before.

You think the NCAA is worried about airfare?? 8)

[uknowme22]

Wash U is in the south region, but in order to save on plane fare the NCAA would probably move teams around. They've done it before.

You think the NCAA is worried about airfare?? 8)

Yes they do worry about airfare.  They have demonstrated that in the past.  Except of course when they sent Wittenberg to Hadin-Simmons in I believe '01.

[WAF78]

I just hate it when the only press your team gets in the "Around the Great Lakes" is to highlight how the OTHER team has improved by playing you so tough. Yuk. With COW outgaining Wabash...I'm sure Denison and DePauw sat up and took notice. While Denison may not have the horses to pull that wagon...DPU does. There's still a lot of football to be played before the playoffs. Go Wabash...find some defensive stops.

[usee]

Wash U is in the south region, but in order to save on plane fare the NCAA would probably move teams around. They've done it before.

You think the NCAA is worried about airfare?? 8)

Yes they do worry about airfare.  They have demonstrated that in the past.  Except of course when they sent Wittenberg to Hadin-Simmons in I believe '01.

So you are saying they will seed people so that no one has to fly? 

[WAF78]

Also noticed that Spud Dick from DPU was the QB for D-3 team of the week. Go Wabash, Beat Denison.

[bashbrother]

I just hate it when the only press your team gets in the "Around the Great Lakes" is to highlight how the OTHER team has improved by playing you so tough. Yuk. With COW outgaining Wabash...I'm sure Denison and DePauw sat up and took notice. While Denison may not have the horses to pull that wagon...DPU does. There's still a lot of football to be played before the playoffs. Go Wabash...find some defensive stops.

There is actually a lot of credit in that piece for Wabash.  If Woo would have played well against a lessor team, there would not have been a write up on Woo.   Like I said at the start of the year, Woo has talent, they just need to find it.  I called for  it to take three games to get the pieces working together.  It has taken a bit longer.   Losing that much leadership to graduation is tough.

[wally_wabash]

Alright...before we hit the panic button because Wooster outgained Wabash on Saturday, let's put a few things in perspective. 

- Scoreboard.  This isn't the first time Wabash has appeared shaky on D and still won a game relatively comfortably (Millikin threw for about 7,000 yards and outgained Wabash by over 100 yards more than Wooster did).  And I say relatively comfortably here because Wooster would have needed the would-be TD that Adi picked off, converted a 2-pointer, recovered an onsides kick, gotten into position to attempt a field goal to tie and finally make said field goal on a slick/wet field. Impossible?  Certainly not.  Probable?  Certainly not.  Say what you will about Wabash's defense, teams aren't getting in the end zone with any regularity. 

- Put the stats into some context.  Wooster had two monster running plays in the game.  1) Sheppard slipped his way out of a pile up at the line of scrimmage and got 52 yards.  The next three plays: rush for 3 yards, incomplete pass, incomplete pass. Wooster punts, Wabash then immediately drives 92 yards for a TD.  Not only did the big play not hurt Wabash, but the TD response squelched the momentum Wooster gained from that play.  2) Holter scrambled for 31 yards at the end of the half.  This is actually a mistake on Holter's part.  That ball has to be chucked into the endzone because it's the last play of the half.  There's nothing to lose by throwing it up for grabs.  Also, Wabash was in a hail mary defense and gave Holter the entire field to run in...instead of throwing the bomb, Holter tucked it, ran for a while and ran out of room.  Again, no harm, no foul.  It looks good on the stat sheet for Holter (and without that run Wooster doesn't outgain Wabash and doesn't get mentioned in ATR), but it didn't really serve the team well IMO.  In much the same way that you don't hold a qb responsible for throwing an end of the half interception on a desperation play, I don't think you hold Wabash responbsible for giving up 31 yards on that play...with no time left on the clock, it was a goal to go situation and Wooster didn't make the goal.  Incomplete pass, interception, scramble down to the 10-yard line...all of it equates to no points for Wooster so the difference between these outcomes is negligible. 

- Wooster gains 83 yards on two rushes, neither of which hurt Wabash.  Wooster gains 3.4 yards per rush on their remaining 45 rushes...an average that is above what Wabash has been giving up, but certainly not crippling. 

- On a day when the offense didn't have it going and wasn't finishing drives, the defense held Wooster out of the endzone and kept the heat off.  That unit deserves a little more credit. 

I wouldn't let this game be reason to get all worked up about Depauw.  Adi wasn't assigned to Holter the way he'll be assigned to Marks and I don't think Spud can run like Holter (the last time I saw Spud he was getting buried in the east end zone by Knez).  Depauw has a done a good job of wiping out the bad teams on their schedule, but against the quality teams, they've gotten used pretty bad.  I think Millsaps and Trinity threw for about 2,700 yards combined on Depauw..and both of those games were in Greendingle.