FB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[formerd3db]

Very true, Mr. Coleman.

blb:

I had forgotten that Kazoo is on that system (similar to what Michgian State University was for years).  Indeed, that is a different situation for players.  And yes, it sounds familiar with regard to the college/university not wanting to put up the $ to house the student-athletes anymore than they have to - for obvious reasons I guess.

[ADAWGISADAWG4LIFE]

blb:

I heard good things about the way Kzoo's football team spend so much time together during the early season and how it helped them out to not have to worry about anything else.  When I was at Adrian, our starting QB in 02-03 and 03-04 was a K transfer and he said the guys on the team really enjoyed that.  I think that K has generally shown a better record during the period without school as well and have suffered when they get into the rigors of their firs trimester I think 02-03 is the best example, they were 4-0 heading into confrence play and were garnering top 25 votes.  I guess I could be confused though, I think what you are saying is despite the time they may spend together prior to classes starting, they do not get the actual two a days before the first game because the shcool doesnt want to pay the cost right?  Help me out as my mind is a bit cluttered from years of abuse to my head while blocking for glory boys.

[blb]

That is correct, DAWG. At 'K' they have one week of pre-season practice. They play their opener Saturday of the second week. It used to be the outside scrimmage before the schedule expanded.

Some years, because of the schedule and school calendar, the players would be together for four weeks before Fall Quarter started.

I know the QB you are referring to (AT). Great kid.

[ADAWGISADAWG4LIFE]

blb:


I agree he is a great guy, one of my closest friends.

[ACRULZ]

blb:



How is Kzoo affected by the climatization rule by the NCAA?  That one week of pre-season practice, do they only go one practice a day?

[blb]

That I don't know, AC. But I would assume they are on the 1-2-1-2, same as everyone else.

[ADAWGISADAWG4LIFE]

blb and AC:

If K has only one week of practice before their first game, then they cannot follow the 1-2-1-2-1 schedule.  NCAA rules require that teams for the first 5 days only run one practice a day which would severely inhibit K's progress towards the first game.  During the first week of practice(game week) K could run on the 1-2-1-2-1 schedule, but not until after their 5 days of acclimization.  Thats my understanding, since the NCAA change rules, we have had to run one a days for the first 5 days, then after we began two a days and one a days, that is the policy as I understand it if anyone else can clarify. 

[blb]

DAWG, I'm sure you are correct on this issue, which means 'K' may have had to change their organizational model ($$ not withstanding).

Sorry if I misled anyone - I assumed (and we all know where that gets one!) that things were the same since I was "intimately" involved, and had not heard otherwise from my buddies that I left behind to fight the good fight

If I find out the facts (for certain, this time!), I will post.

[Stinger]

I've enjoyed reading the recent posts, unf, most about the lack of institutional support of athletics at Kzoo.  I've had many a a gripe about this.   Most of you have read them in the past.  I can't believe K is intientionally doing this. There are too many very good liberal arts schools that have great sports programs across the board.  It doesn't take away from the academics.  No doubt K will never be known as a powehouse (unless your talking men's tennis), but there's no reason why K cannot be at least competitive in most sports.

The fact of the matter is that 25% of the student body competes in intercollegiate athletics at K, it's too big to ignore. This isn't just some thing to do after classes end for the day.   Personally, I learned just as much about life "down the hill" at the Rolla Dome as I did at the Dow Science Center. 

[formerd3db]

Me too, Stinger.  It is great to see Kazoo supporters posting.  I hope this encourages others from our fellow MIAA schools to contribute this season to this board.  Also, hopefully some of our veteran posters will return also.  Rome (Oliveter), where art thee?

P.S.  Only 9 (or 8 1/2 pages) to go and we hit the "100" mark.

[ACRULZ]

ADAWG:


I have been trying to do research on Coach Deere.  Has he ever been a coordinator or head coach?  I saw on the HCAC board Adrian had the opportunity to hire an "established" guy who's defenses ranked in the top in DIII.  On paper to me anyway, it looks like a bad decision by Adrian.

[ADAWGISADAWG4LIFE]

ACRULZ:

Coach Deere has been at least a 50% hand in the defense at Adrian for the last 6 years.  For the last several years he has been a part time coach, coming in from about 4pm -11pm each day.  He has been responsible for the game day defensive calls, game planning and many other aspects of the defense.  On top of being in charge of all these tasks, he has also coached numerous all league players, one All American and a host of other honors.  He is one of the brightest football minds that I have ever met and is an incredibly creative coach as well as hard working.  You will be hard pressed to find a coach that put in as many hours as a part time as he did especially for around 4500.00 a year which is all he received.  His titles may not indicate it, but his experience is a immense and he brings a wealth of knowledge and creativity to the Bulldog defense.  I look for absolutley no drop off and if anything I would imagine there may be some improvement as well as new looks now that he will be at Adrian all day every day and be able to coach the coaches as well.  It may look like a "bad hire on paper" but I can assure you that from what I know and have seen, it is not a bad hire.  Time will tell how it works out, but I look for good things and I hope that the hire works out very well for the Bulldogs.

[HOF]

I've been reading this page for quite sometime...finally chiming in.  It is exciting to see so many people on this board and excited to talk football.   Some schools will be heading into camp in about five weeks.  Wow.  The summer is going fast.

MIAA football should be exciting as every year.  As a true fan of the league I'm very excited about this year. 

ADAWG:  You have great knowledge it seems of Adrian College and the league.  How long did you work at Adrian and why did you leave?  It seems you have a ton of passion for the Bulldogs and if I remember right you coached there for the last couple of seasons, right?  Great to have you here.  Seems like you can provide that inside look to us outsiders.

ACRULZ:  You know so much about the program (recruits, players, etc.) and not the new coach Deere?   Is this guy gonna be a good hire for Adrian?  I just heard DAWGS thoughts, what do you think?  It seems like a very untimely departure.

D3:  Did you coach at one time at Hope?

If I remember right throughout the MIAA a lot of these young assistant coaches bail over the course of time.  Albion had a good coach leave like seven years ago for high school.  I think Alma lost one of their coaches last summer.  Hope lost a coach to the high school.  What is the case, just better life outside of the small college world?

I'm excited to see everyone on here.  I look forward to talking with you all this season.

[miaafbfan]

I've been away from the board since last season.  It's great to see so much going on here.  Very interesting posts regarding Adrian and Kalamazoo.  Hopefully the momentum carries through this fall.

[Pat Coleman]

HOF: Welcome.
Miaafbfan: Welcome back.

There hasn't been a whole lot of talk about the MIAA in recent years. Hopefully you guys can help the regulars here sustain it and bring people in for the fall.