FB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[70_dc_alum]

Call me crazy, but (pending a Trine win this weekend) bring on Mount Union!

What better way to really judge your programs strength and progress then to play the best?!  Of course it would be great to get a good seed and have a better opportunity to get a DIII playoff win (something that Trine University has NEVER done). But I gaurantee if Trine draws Mount Union, those are going to be some excited players and some excited coaches! 

I know I sure would have loved the opportunity to measure up my personal abilities as well as my teams abilities against a program like Mount Union!

Been there, done that, fun = yes, good for old stories while drinking beer with the buddies not so much unless you are discussing the NCAA record for most points scored against a team in the shortest amount of time (yes MUC put 21pts in a 14 second period to start the second quarter  in the first game of the 96 season!)

the only way to beat MUC is with a killer D that creates a lot of turnovers and an offense good enough to capitalize on it for 7 pts.  no one can shoot it out with MUC.  if the MIAA  has a team right now that would have a chance it would be adrian becuase the front 7 on Defense...but being a realist it is something less than a 5% chance and that is only becuase anything is possible (ask Syracuse BBall)

[Raider 68]

Call me crazy, but (pending a Trine win this weekend) bring on Mount Union!

What better way to really judge your programs strength and progress then to play the best?!  Of course it would be great to get a good seed and have a better opportunity to get a DIII playoff win (something that Trine University has NEVER done). But I gaurantee if Trine draws Mount Union, those are going to be some excited players and some excited coaches! 

I know I sure would have loved the opportunity to measure up my personal abilities as well as my teams abilities against a program like Mount Union!

Been there, done that, fun = yes, good for old stories while drinking beer with the buddies not so much unless you are discussing the NCAA record for most points scored against a team in the shortest amount of time (yes MUC put 21pts in a 14 second period to start the second quarter  in the first game of the 96 season!)

the only way to beat MUC is with a killer D that creates a lot of turnovers and an offense good enough to capitalize on it for 7 pts.  no one can shoot it out with MUC.  if the MIAA  has a team right now that would have a chance it would be adrian becuase the front 7 on Defense...but being a realist it is something less than a 5% chance and that is only becuase anything is possible (ask Syracuse BBall)

So you think Adrian beats Trine with their tough Defense?

Regarding Mount Union, in their 4 losses in 10 years, a great defense
is the major way they lost those few games. They just do not turn the ball over very often at all. It would take superior athletes and great coaching
strategy to make that happen. All if those factors have made Mount an
elite program, but other schools have adopted their philosophy. A school in the MIAA could do the same, as did UWW, W & J, ONU and others.

[altor]

Are you all assuming the NAthC champion will be shipped out of region too?

Concordia, IL, is 7-1 but was not on last week's Regional Ranking.  Trine's current OWP is well above Concordia's.  Also, Concordia beat Olivet by 5 and Trine won by 25.  Assuming Trine wins the conference, I don't think they are an 8 seed.

[Raider 68]

Are you all assuming the NAthC champion will be shipped out of region too?

Concordia, IL, is 7-1 but was not on last week's Regional Ranking.  Trine's current OWP is well above Concordia's.  Also, Concordia beat Olivet by 5 and Trine won by 25.  Assuming Trine wins the conference, I don't think they are an 8 seed.

I would think there is a good chance Mount Union will move to the east again!

[altor]

I would think there is a good chance Mount Union will move to the east again!

Perhaps, but then they are worried that UWW comes to the North again.  They didn't like that scenario either.  I'm trying to tell them that Trine is not an 8 seed at this point (but they got to get in first).

[BOYA87]

Just to clarify my previous comments, of course I would not PREFER the MIAA representative to play MU in the post season first round game.  However, the only things that Trine and Adrain have any control over is whether they win their final 2 games.  Other than that it is all left up to the committees, boards, coaches, computers...or whatever else decides the playoff seeds!  All I am saying is that whatever draw a team gets in the first round, it is going to be a good team.  These are all teams that have won their conference or at least preformed well in a very strong conference.

So, should the MIAA representative draw MU in the 1st round I say....Bring on Mount Union.  Dont be upset, dont be scared, dont back down, and definitely dont let them win the game before it even begins.  They play on the same field we do.  they play with 11 men on the field just like we do.  and their team is made up of 18-22 year old men, just like ours!

Respect your opponents, but never fear them. 

[Raider 68]

Just to clarify my previous comments, of course I would not PREFER the MIAA representative to play MU in the post season first round game.  However, the only things that Trine and Adrain have any control over is whether they win their final 2 games.  Other than that it is all left up to the committees, boards, coaches, computers...or whatever else decides the playoff seeds!  All I am saying is that whatever draw a team gets in the first round, it is going to be a good team.  These are all teams that have won their conference or at least preformed well in a very strong conference.

So, should the MIAA representative draw MU in the 1st round I say....Bring on Mount Union.  Dont be upset, dont be scared, dont back down, and definitely dont let them win the game before it even begins.  They play on the same field we do.  they play with 11 men on the field just like we do.  and their team is made up of 18-22 year old men, just like ours!

Respect your opponents, but never fear them. 

BOYA87,

If the Trine and Adrian players have the same attitude as you, then they
have the right mental fortitude to succeed.

The committees will make the calls, but I would also want to play the best right out of the gate to see what my program has to do to grow.

In 2002-03 ( I think, will have to verify exact dates), the University of Wisc.
Whitewater scheduled Mount Union for their first games to learn from
an elite program. Not only did they learn ( despite two large losses) but went on to be a major power in D3.

[02 Warhawk]

Just to clarify my previous comments, of course I would not PREFER the MIAA representative to play MU in the post season first round game.  However, the only things that Trine and Adrain have any control over is whether they win their final 2 games.  Other than that it is all left up to the committees, boards, coaches, computers...or whatever else decides the playoff seeds!  All I am saying is that whatever draw a team gets in the first round, it is going to be a good team.  These are all teams that have won their conference or at least preformed well in a very strong conference.

So, should the MIAA representative draw MU in the 1st round I say....Bring on Mount Union.  Dont be upset, dont be scared, dont back down, and definitely dont let them win the game before it even begins.  They play on the same field we do.  they play with 11 men on the field just like we do.  and their team is made up of 18-22 year old men, just like ours!

Respect your opponents, but never fear them. 

BOYA87,

If the Trine and Adrian players have the same attitude as you, then they
have the right mental fortitude to succeed.

The committees will make the calls, but I would also want to play the best right out of the gate to see what my program has to do to grow.

In 2002-03 ( I think, will have to verify exact dates), the University of Wisc.
Whitewater scheduled Mount Union for their first games to learn from
an elite program. Not only did they learn ( despite two large losses) but went on to be a major power in D3.

around that same time frame, we also scheduled St. John's and one or two NAIA ranked teams....we got our buts whipped, but we learned a lot from it.

[LetItRain]

02 Warhawk:

I work with a UWW graduate from back a ways.  I provide him with Trine updates each Monday and he returns the favor with UWW updates.  You guys are having another good year.  Heard about your 300+ yard running back - pretty amazing.  Good luck in the playoffs.  I'll be pulling for you (unless you're playing Trine, of course).   

[Raider 68]

02 Warhawk:

I work with a UWW graduate from back a ways.  I provide him with Trine updates each Monday and he returns the favor with UWW updates.  You guys are having another good year.  Heard about your 300+ yard running back - pretty amazing.  Good luck in the playoffs.  I'll be pulling for you (unless you're playing Trine, of course).   

Just to clarify my previous comments, of course I would not PREFER the MIAA representative to play MU in the post season first round game.  However, the only things that Trine and Adrain have any control over is whether they win their final 2 games.  Other than that it is all left up to the committees, boards, coaches, computers...or whatever else decides the playoff seeds!  All I am saying is that whatever draw a team gets in the first round, it is going to be a good team.  These are all teams that have won their conference or at least preformed well in a very strong conference.

So, should the MIAA representative draw MU in the 1st round I say....Bring on Mount Union.  Dont be upset, dont be scared, dont back down, and definitely dont let them win the game before it even begins.  They play on the same field we do.  they play with 11 men on the field just like we do.  and their team is made up of 18-22 year old men, just like ours!

Respect your opponents, but never fear them. 

BOYA87,

If the Trine and Adrian players have the same attitude as you, then they
have the right mental fortitude to succeed.

The committees will make the calls, but I would also want to play the best right out of the gate to see what my program has to do to grow.

In 2002-03 ( I think, will have to verify exact dates), the University of Wisc.
Whitewater scheduled Mount Union for their first games to learn from
an elite program. Not only did they learn ( despite two large losses) but went on to be a major power in D3.

around that same time frame, we also scheduled St. John's and one or two NAIA ranked teams....we got our buts whipped, but we learned a lot from it.

Now you have some activity on this MIAA board. A comment about UWW
got some ink. The former coach at UWW saw opportunities and went after
them.

A few post back, I mentioned Trine's opportunites in the playoffs, if they were 8th or higher will potentially see UWW at some point. This assumes
Mount Union is not in the North and UWW is.

[Raider 68]

02 Warhawk:

I work with a UWW graduate from back a ways.  I provide him with Trine updates each Monday and he returns the favor with UWW updates.  You guys are having another good year.  Heard about your 300+ yard running back - pretty amazing.  Good luck in the playoffs.  I'll be pulling for you (unless you're playing Trine, of course).   

Just to clarify my previous comments, of course I would not PREFER the MIAA representative to play MU in the post season first round game.  However, the only things that Trine and Adrain have any control over is whether they win their final 2 games.  Other than that it is all left up to the committees, boards, coaches, computers...or whatever else decides the playoff seeds!  All I am saying is that whatever draw a team gets in the first round, it is going to be a good team.  These are all teams that have won their conference or at least preformed well in a very strong conference.

So, should the MIAA representative draw MU in the 1st round I say....Bring on Mount Union.  Dont be upset, dont be scared, dont back down, and definitely dont let them win the game before it even begins.  They play on the same field we do.  they play with 11 men on the field just like we do.  and their team is made up of 18-22 year old men, just like ours!

Respect your opponents, but never fear them. 

BOYA87,

If the Trine and Adrian players have the same attitude as you, then they
have the right mental fortitude to succeed.

The committees will make the calls, but I would also want to play the best right out of the gate to see what my program has to do to grow.

In 2002-03 ( I think, will have to verify exact dates), the University of Wisc.
Whitewater scheduled Mount Union for their first games to learn from
an elite program. Not only did they learn ( despite two large losses) but went on to be a major power in D3.

around that same time frame, we also scheduled St. John's and one or two NAIA ranked teams....we got our buts whipped, but we learned a lot from it.

Now you have some activity on this MIAA board. A comment about UWW
got some ink. The former coach at UWW saw opportunities and went after
them.

A few post back, I mentioned Trine's opportunites in the playoffs, if they were 8th or higher will potentially see UWW at some point. This assumes
Mount Union is not in the North and UWW is.

Trine is 8th week, if the rankings hold for 2 weeks, BOYA87 may have his wish! However, the NCAA moves other teams to other regions not just a top-seed.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Don't forget that the NathCon has an AQ, yet no one in the rankings.  Their AQ, whoever it turns out to be, is almost certainly the 8th seed.

[Diezel1]

Boya,

I totally agree with your way of thinking.  Every athlete on every level dreams of playing the "top dog" in their sport.  Why not give them your best shot and see what your made of?  If ya get beat bad who cares, not like your the first or the last one.  Anything can happen on any given night.  If you happen to pull off the upset thats a story you can tell for the rest of your life.  Sure getting a win for the conference would be great but if you want to improve as a program sometimes you have to play the best to evaluate where you stand

[BoredatWork56]

There are some really interesting matchups this week.  I cant wait to get to this weekends action.  Can Adrian upset Trine and sneak into the playoffs?  Will the Alma offense get back on track against Hope?  Will Ablion's defense hold the Kzoo passing attack?  So many questions, and I cant wait for the answers!

Trine 28 - Adrian 17

Hope 24 - Alma 21

Kalamazoo 38 - Albion 14

[formerd3db]

My picks this week:

Trine @ Adrian - Trine

Hope @ Alma - Hope

Albion @ Kalamazoo - Albion

Olivet has a "bye" this weekend

For all of you who are traveling to the games, please drive safe and...dress warmly!  Best of luck to your teams.