FB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[sac]

Eastern/Toledo tuition agreement.

If you like weeding through legal stuff......and who doesn't.  This link is for you

http://www.house.mi.gov/SessionDocs/2009-2010/Testimony/Committee2-10-21-2009.pdf

Indeed it is an agreement to let Michigan and Ohio residents pay in-state tuition to attend either school.  The agreement runs out this year, and can be renewed every two years for two years.

Although it sounds quite lopsided in EMU's favor, as Toledo agrees to accept only Monroe County residents, and EMU accepts all Ohio residents, along with Monroe Community  College doing the same.  Interesting program.


So I guess now, Eastern Michigan is the "school up north".

[adidas28]

Wow, did you have a bad day today or what?   Actually Pat, I am quite surprised you make such a comment.

Actually, I have said the same elsewhere as well. It's not much different than someone popping in and saying "why aren't we talking about suchandsuch" rather than just talking about suchandsuch to start the conversation.

Sorry if this upsets you guys, but it is how I feel. This has been bothering me for some time, as I said, and I finally was able to put it into words.

If you think so strong on it, why don't you then make a comment to those other "Raiders" on that other board whom you think run that one.

Seriously? Because it's the OAC board and the Purple Raiders are certainly on-topic there.

Actually this has been bother me for a while too and I finally figured out how to put in words:

Pat, you sound like a little kid throwing a temper tantrum after being picked last for dodege ball in gym class or something. I could really care less if you kick me off this forum or not, but the more posts of yours that I read, the less I vistit the web site. If I was Raider I would tel you to get bent,

Duly noted.

I am sure that there are Trine fans who are not Pat Coleman fans but there are plenty of teams' fans who don't like unbiased opinions, and I don't really sugar-coat for anyone. That's one thing that is fairly consistent among the tens of thousands of posts I've made.

Considering your last half-dozen or so posts have been made simply to rag on me, I'm not at all surprised you chose to speak up again now. Surely you must have something positive to talk about as a Trine fan in the past month, yes?

"Let's discuss sports in a postive way"

My last six or so posts were in response to your sarcastic replies to fan discussion on the board. You seem to think that everyone on here is a nerdy reporter that should have checked all their facts and be 100% accurate on everything they post, when in fact most are just simply fans that are expressing their biased views on their team based on the fact they are an alum, they have a kid on the team, or they attend school. And as far as positive things to say about Trine, I have plenty but I am very sensitive and I simply couldn't handle your expert criticism based on your thousands of posts (which you mention often) it would just cruch my self esteem knowing that you had somethng negative to say to me.

[Uncle Rico]

Wow, did you have a bad day today or what?   Actually Pat, I am quite surprised you make such a comment.

Actually, I have said the same elsewhere as well. It's not much different than someone popping in and saying "why aren't we talking about suchandsuch" rather than just talking about suchandsuch to start the conversation.

Sorry if this upsets you guys, but it is how I feel. This has been bothering me for some time, as I said, and I finally was able to put it into words.

If you think so strong on it, why don't you then make a comment to those other "Raiders" on that other board whom you think run that one.

Seriously? Because it's the OAC board and the Purple Raiders are certainly on-topic there.

Actually this has been bother me for a while too and I finally figured out how to put in words:

Pat, you sound like a little kid throwing a temper tantrum after being picked last for dodege ball in gym class or something. I could really care less if you kick me off this forum or not, but the more posts of yours that I read, the less I vistit the web site. If I was Raider I would tel you to get bent,

Duly noted.

I am sure that there are Trine fans who are not Pat Coleman fans but there are plenty of teams' fans who don't like unbiased opinions, and I don't really sugar-coat for anyone. That's one thing that is fairly consistent among the tens of thousands of posts I've made.

Considering your last half-dozen or so posts have been made simply to rag on me, I'm not at all surprised you chose to speak up again now. Surely you must have something positive to talk about as a Trine fan in the past month, yes?

No one minds unbiased opinions.  No one is asking you to sugar coat things, but your written skills many times comes across as sarcastic, condescending, and patronizing, if you have a difference of opinion.  Almost as if you have a disdain for those of us not graced with your knowledge of D3.  Rather than use the forum as a way to share knowledge, it comes across as a bully pulpit from which you will leap in to a discussion and punish those of us without the keen insight you feel you have.  I fully admit not knowing as much as you regarding the breadth of D3 football, but the way you often respond does not promote good hearted discussion.  Maybe I am just a sensitive guy and take things the wrong way. Perhaps if we were at the bar downing a few cold ones and talking smack your comments might have a different feel.  Translating thoughts / intents into written word can be somewhat of an art, and I sometimes wonder if you do not care how you come across.  And that's fine too.  But don't expect people to always appreciate that attitude and ignore it all the time.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Well, latest word is that RichRod has not (yet) been fired - meeting again tomorrow.

My take on this is that Dave Brandon is in WAY over his head.  I was never certain how selling third-rate pizzas (upgraded to second-rate AFTER he left) qualified him to run an athletic program, but maybe that's just me.  As I understand it, RR could have been terminated FOR CAUSE (hence, no buy-out) after the NCAA sanctions, but Brandon declared those to be off-limits (thus costing the U $2.5 million once the inevitable happens, down from $4 million if the deed was done in a timely fashion).  And this is the guy who apparently will be the SOLE determinant of the next coach.  Can anyone tell me why I should be confident in this matter?

[cave2bens]

Well, latest word is that RichRod has not (yet) been fired - meeting again tomorrow.

My take on this is that Dave Brandon is in WAY over his head.  I was never certain how selling third-rate pizzas (upgraded to second-rate AFTER he left) qualified him to run an athletic program, but maybe that's just me.  As I understand it, RR could have been terminated FOR CAUSE (hence, no buy-out) after the NCAA sanctions, but Brandon declared those to be off-limits (thus costing the U $2.5 million once the inevitable happens, down from $4 million if the deed was done in a timely fashion).  And this is the guy who apparently will be the SOLE determinant of the next coach.  Can anyone tell me why I should be confident in this matter?

Is capitalized "SOLE" referencing the "one man" (no offense to the UM Prez  ) decision capacity or do you feel something's "fishy" along the Huron?

Agree with your premise, and unsure who'd be preferable to apply the "call outs and bow-rudders" for this stretch of water short of ghostly advice from Canham and Bo. 

[sac]

12:30 press conference, a Michigan Assistant reports everyone was fired.

PS ~ I think its real this time. 

[sac]

Well, latest word is that RichRod has not (yet) been fired - meeting again tomorrow.

My take on this is that Dave Brandon is in WAY over his head.  I was never certain how selling third-rate pizzas (upgraded to second-rate AFTER he left) qualified him to run an athletic program, but maybe that's just me.  As I understand it, RR could have been terminated FOR CAUSE (hence, no buy-out) after the NCAA sanctions, but Brandon declared those to be off-limits (thus costing the U $2.5 million once the inevitable happens, down from $4 million if the deed was done in a timely fashion).  And this is the guy who apparently will be the SOLE determinant of the next coach.  Can anyone tell me why I should be confident in this matter?

I don't think you could be more wrong about Brandon, he is clearly the smartest man to wear the AD hat at Michigan since Don Canham, and its by a million miles.

[sflzman]

Hey, does anyone know if the Calvin/Hope at Hope is going to be b roadcasted on WHT? Or is it only going to be the one at Calvin cuz I can't find it on my DirecTv guide...

I'm sure you meant this for basketball,.......because you know Calvin football doesn't exist......but no, Wed's game will not be on WHT(World Harvest Television), it will be on WGVU in the Grand Rapids area.

The Saturday game later in January @ Calvin will be picked up by WHT.

Thanks, lol, i was looking all over the bball board for a response to my post and figured i must have been going crazy...thanks, im watching it online now as WGVU is not available in Alma...

[Raider 68]

It would not surprize me to see Les Miles interview at U of M!   

[sac]

It would not surprize me to see Les Miles interview at U of M!   

It would me

[sflzman]

It would not surprize me to see Les Miles interview at U of M!   

I don't see that happening at all...

Honestly I think Michigan screwed up big time firing RichRod, and now since they're not close to hiring anyone, this upcoming recruiting class is gonna suck...

[sac]

It would not surprize me to see Les Miles interview at U of M!   

I don't see that happening at all...

Honestly I think Michigan screwed up big time firing RichRod, and now since they're not close to hiring anyone, this upcoming recruiting class is gonna suck...

It won't be awesome, but its not going to suck either.

Also, supposedly the job has to be posted for 1 week by state law, so whether they are perceived to be close tonight or not is really not important.  Next Wed. would be the earliest they could hire someone if that is indeed the law.

Once again the media is so far out in left field making crap up its just best to not pay attention.

[Mr. Ypsi]

With absolutely NO insider information, here are my predictions.

Les Miles WILL get an interview, but will not get the job.  His time was three years ago.  His time is gone.

Brady Hoke WILL get the job.

Denard Robinson, liking the style of Brady Hoke (and NOT wanting to sit out a year) will stay.  He will start at QB next year, but MAY be beaten out by Devin Gardner before the year is out.  I'm reasonably confident on my first two predictions; this third one is very iffy.

[formerd3db]

It would not surprize me to see Les Miles interview at U of M!  

I don't see that happening at all...

Honestly I think Michigan screwed up big time firing RichRod, and now since they're not close to hiring anyone, this upcoming recruiting class is gonna suck...

It would not surprize me to see Les Miles interview at U of M!  

I don't see that happening at all...

Honestly I think Michigan screwed up big time firing RichRod, and now since they're not close to hiring anyone, this upcoming recruiting class is gonna suck...

It won't be awesome, but its not going to suck either.

Also, supposedly the job has to be posted for 1 week by state law, so whether they are perceived to be close tonight or not is really not important.  Next Wed. would be the earliest they could hire someone if that is indeed the law.

Once again the media is so far out in left field making crap up its just best to not pay attention.

With absolutely NO insider information, here are my predictions.

Les Miles WILL get an interview, but will not get the job.  His time was three years ago.  His time is gone.

Brady Hoke WILL get the job.

Denard Robinson, liking the style of Brady Hoke (and NOT wanting to sit out a year) will stay.  He will start at QB next year, but MAY be beaten out by Devin Gardner before the year is out.  I'm reasonably confident on my first two predictions; this third one is very iffy.

sflzman:

I have to respectfully disagree with you on that one.  Rodriguez had to go.  There was no way, even if they had kept him on for one more year, that even with a decent season it would have been seen as progress enough to save his job.  Us Michigan faithful couldn't take another year of him!  Seriously though, while I did not like Rodriguez style/personality or his coaching, I don't wish him any ill-will; certainly I wish him the best in his next coaching job, if/wherever that will be.  At least he will get his 2.5 million back that he had to pay WVU for getting out of his contract - he wanted the 4 million in the lawsuit, but only got 2 million, so he can't complain about not having made out pretty good in that regard.  However, again, that was much of his own making and that is part of why I was never a fan of his, among other reasons as I've already shared here in the past.

sac;

Yeah, all those idiot pundits (most of them) have no clue.  It is amusing to hear some of their unsubstantiated speculation (sometimes pathetic, IMO), however,...I guess that is what they're paid for.

Mr. Ypsi:

Although, like you, I wouldn't be surprised if Miles got an interview, yet on the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't either.  I agree that he won't get the job, however.

I also think that if Hoke is offerred the job, he would take it.  SDSU wouldn't be happy, but he is a "Michigan Man" with head coaching experience, as Brandon has said the former is not necessariily a must, but the latter is.  I am not sure who else would be a "hot" prospect as yet.  I do hope that they do not bring someone in from the NFL undless that person has collegiate coaching experience.  

As far as the QB situation, do you think that Forcier will transfer or "ride it out" like the late Tom Slade did back in the '70's?  Slade was a class guy and still a good QB; it's just that he had Dennis Franklin come in.  Still, I tremendously admire how he handled that situation.  Many people do not have the courage (guts), fortitude,or personality to handle such situations.  He was a better man for that than many others could ever hope to be -Schembechler even said that himself and despite that, they both remained very close friends until Slade's death, with Schembechler dying shortly thereafter (I remember that time vividly becasuse my own mom died 4 weeks before them).  Anyway, it will be interesting to see who Michigan chooses and how the QB situation works out for next year.  I will say that as good as Robinson is, they can't rely solely as much on him as they did this year - he needs some support players.  Michigan needs to get their running game back, some better receivers and, good grief their "sieve secondary" needs some new help - or the guys who are there just need to get better .  The latter was, IMO, perhaps the main downfall of Michigan this year from the field standpoint i.e. their "Achilles Heel" (or Achilles Hell"? )  

[Raider 68]

Maybe U of M will hire a coach that for many would be a surprize pick. At the time I thought RR was a surprize and IMHO, he was not the right fit at all.

Maybe a successful coach at a different level of college ball with a great track record vs. a popular D1 coach who does not embody what Michigan is as a school and program!