FB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[ThunderHead]

Wisehan,

I'd be shocked if that was the case, nothin against rouach but if a kid coming out of hs looks like two 20 year olds with experience at a high level, well then like I said, I'd be shocked.

It is nothing against rousch, but it would be tough for any qb to dominate at this point.

[wisd3fan2]

I would not be too shocked. rauch is 18 but i argue that he has played at a higher level. The only team he lost to was Waunakee who is one of the best HS teams in the Nation. This might be hard for you to believe but Waunakee against UW Whitewater would be a blood bath. Waunakee being younger but bigger faster. Many of their players from last year are playing for the Badgers now. Not to brag but  Waunakee is one of the best in the nation, UW whitewater is the D3 champs, The Badgers went to the rose bowl, and the Packers are the World champs. Even the semi pro national champs are the Madison Mustangs. Football in Wisconsin is very tough!!!!

[sflzman]

New Trine website. Football preview is even up

http://www.trine.edu/athletics

[d3fan1515]

Ya, it would be a blood bath... for waunakee! I don't care what you say, college football is much much different then high school ball period! It's a little bit different playing against 16,17,18 yr old kids to in college when your playing against grown men!don't mean to put ur comment down, but I'm not buying that!

[ThunderHead]

Like I said I'd be shocked, college football and high school football are faily different. And Wisconsin football is decent football but by no means do they set the bar in high school ball.

Regarding Trines web site, its a step up for sure but its still quite lacking, hopefully they continue to up grade it and take a page from OC's site, which I think sets the bar in the MIAA apparence wise.

[D306]

Nice to see all the "chatter" on the site.

I am no longer in the Midwest so I do not have any insight to MIAA teams, though I like to read this site to keep up on the MIAA.

Regarding the comments about do coachs read websites, HS, College or otherwise.

I am sure many coachs read websites, the vast majority pay little or no attention.
There was a comment rregarding that even the HS game has threads on the internet.

We had a very active series of Website that were dedicated to HS Sports in our area.
My fellow coachs and I would have a great time laughing at the "insiders" that would expound on our schools team.
There was some good general information that helped spread interest in teams, and I saw the value to the sites. The vast majority was either a HS kids talking trash, or a dad who is living reliving the glory days, through his son.
There are a few quality sites with rosters, game times, and some heated discussions about games, unfortuantely evetually the tone would go to the insults and trash talk.


I commeend this webiste as typically this is very knowledge and information / opinion based not alot of BS.

Saw Albion's new turf last week, looks good. I understand from a few friends that Albion looks pretty tough this year. Some offensive threats and depth at positions which is key to a winning season.


Have a good year folks I will drop by when I can.

[BOYA87]

HEY!!!  Whats wrong with trying to relive your glory days?!?!   

I think the top of the conference is definitely getting stronger with Trine, Albion, and Alma.  Haven't heard much about the other A team but wouldn't be suprised if they put together a squad to compete in those top spots.  Lets all hope for a strong showing in the non-conference schedule from those top teams to hopefully earn the conference a little more respect!

[skunks_sidekick]

I would not be too shocked. rauch is 18 but i argue that he has played at a higher level. The only team he lost to was Waunakee who is one of the best HS teams in the Nation. This might be hard for you to believe but Waunakee against UW Whitewater would be a blood bath. Waunakee being younger but bigger faster. Many of their players from last year are playing for the Badgers now. Not to brag but  Waunakee is one of the best in the nation, UW whitewater is the D3 champs, The Badgers went to the rose bowl, and the Packers are the World champs. Even the semi pro national champs are the Madison Mustangs. Football in Wisconsin is very tough!!!!

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[Flying Dutch Fan]

Holland Sentinel article about Hope's running back Shawn Jackson:

http://www.hollandsentinel.com/sports/x1153509077/Shawn-Jackson-poised-to-energize-Hope-football-ground-game

[badgerwarhawk]

I would not be too shocked. rauch is 18 but i argue that he has played at a higher level. The only team he lost to was Waunakee who is one of the best HS teams in the Nation. This might be hard for you to believe but Waunakee against UW Whitewater would be a blood bath. Waunakee being younger but bigger faster. Many of their players from last year are playing for the Badgers now. Not to brag but  Waunakee is one of the best in the nation, UW whitewater is the D3 champs, The Badgers went to the rose bowl, and the Packers are the World champs. Even the semi pro national champs are the Madison Mustangs. Football in Wisconsin is very tough!!!!

No offense intended but the next time you're at WalMart buy yourself a clue. 

[wisd3fan2]

My remarks were not intended to piss any one off. And I am not saying that HS football is at the level of college. However I am approaching my 70's and have been a D3 fan for many years. Last year Waunakee was impossible to run against. When you study the match up you find that Waunakee and Whitewater would have been a very tough game. To say that because a team is college that they would kill all high school teams is just not right. Wisconsin has many D3 schools and some would have a very tough time with our top HS teams.
Note, This year Wisconsin will be fielding a much improved D3. Look for Oshkosh, Stevens Point, and Stout. These teams could upset UWW. I am a UWW fan but look at the match-ups.

[02 Warhawk]

My remarks were not intended to piss any one off. And I am not saying that HS football is at the level of college. However I am approaching my 70's and have been a D3 fan for many years. Last year Waunakee was impossible to run against. When you study the match up you find that Waunakee and Whitewater would have been a very tough game. To say that because a team is college that they would kill all high school teams is just not right. Wisconsin has many D3 schools and some would have a very tough time with our top HS teams.
Note, This year Wisconsin will be fielding a much improved D3. Look for Oshkosh, Stevens Point, and Stout. These teams could upset UWW. I am a UWW fan but look at the match-ups.

Not a true statement. We're are talking about 17-18 year old kids, going up against 20-21 year olds. College kids are bigger, faster, stronger, more experienced, their game is more polished, etc. College kids have better developed bodies, mostly b/c of hours and hours of hitting the weight room AFTER high school. In High school these boys are barely past puberty. No way they can match the physical play of college players.

At the high school level, there's a hand full of kids that excel and go on to play college ball. At the college (even DIII) level, ALL THE PLAYERS excelled at high school.....hence them being on college roster. A college roster is basically an "all-star" high school team that's 4 years older and better.

Sorry, I think you're on an island by yourself on this debate.

[BoBo]

My remarks were not intended to piss any one off. And I am not saying that HS football is at the level of college. However I am approaching my 70's and have been a D3 fan for many years. Last year Waunakee was impossible to run against. When you study the match up you find that Waunakee and Whitewater would have been a very tough game. To say that because a team is college that they would kill all high school teams is just not right. Wisconsin has many D3 schools and some would have a very tough time with our top HS teams.
Note, This year Wisconsin will be fielding a much improved D3. Look for Oshkosh, Stevens Point, and Stout. These teams could upset UWW. I am a UWW fan but look at the match-ups.

I would not be too shocked. rauch is 18 but i argue that he has played at a higher level. The only team he lost to was Waunakee who is one of the best HS teams in the Nation. This might be hard for you to believe but Waunakee against UW Whitewater would be a blood bath. Waunakee being younger but bigger faster. Many of their players from last year are playing for the Badgers now. Not to brag but  Waunakee is one of the best in the nation, UW whitewater is the D3 champs, The Badgers went to the rose bowl, and the Packers are the World champs. Even the semi pro national champs are the Madison Mustangs. Football in Wisconsin is very tough!!!!

Waunakee has a very nice program for a D2 (second largest division) in Wisconsin.  One of the best teams in the nation?  Not even close. Two players from last years team are on the Wisconsin roster, 1 on scholarship (Austin Maly) and I believe 1 walk-on RB (Derek Straus) - you call that many? Maly will probably redshirt - neither are even listed on the Badger depth chart (which came out today) for UW's first game. The fact that Mt. Horeb, Reedsburg, Baraboo or DeForest couldn't run against them suddenly makes them a challenger to college teams? If you are truly nearly 70, you should know better than that!!      Blood bath?  Definately!!

[02 Warhawk]

Also, same rules apply to DI football and the NFL.

I would take the worst NFL team over the best college football team every year. It would be a "blood bath".

[D306]

Wow a lot of new posters on the site these days great for comments and discussions

wisD3fan2  I have to disagree with your comments that a HS team would beat or make a very "tough" game for UW Whitewater.

UWW is typically very solid and has been a Championship Team multiple times.

I have coached 100's of HS players, whom have won State Championships and have moved on to to every level of Football beyond HS.

The size, speed, weight, strength alone would make this game non competitive.
Take into account UWW coaching and player profile, the vast majority were highly regarded players in HS as well.

We all can recount numerous highly regarded HS players whom do not make a dent in D3 lineup for 1-3 years, let alone become part of a powerhouse like UWW, so unless this HS team is full of 18-20 D1 players they really do not stand a chance.

I would put one of our undefeated top 5 in the country HS teams we have coached in a game against UWW and expect to get dominated.