FB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[ThunderHead]

Too bad for Wayne State yesterday, although they did give a flicker of hope in almost getting near to either taking the lead or tying towards the end, before Pittsburg State pulled away for good.  Still, they had a great season.  That game, in addition to the 3 Div. I bowls yesterday which kicked off "Capital-One Bowl Week", were excellent and exciting games (obviously Ohio U's and UL-Lafayette's last second wins and even though Temple blew out Wyoming, it was an exciting game and good to see Temple rebound from previous poor years). Despite that they are "minor bowls" and considered worthless by many people in the "bowl game glutenous situation", I think that those just might outdo perhaps a couple of the BCS bowl games.  We'll see what happens.

The Div. II announcers once again shows why ESPN needs to get some better people for that;  Pam Ward just doesn't do it...example, when talking about Wayne State's former nickname, she kept pronouncing it as Tart-Tars, instead of Tartars Ridiculous. At least, let's get our own state's former Central Michigan University/Buffalo Bills LB Ray Bentley back in there, although he does the DI MAC games for ESPN now and, as such, probably wouldn't want to return/go back to announcing the DII and/or DIII championship games.

Yes, congrats to Alma's Anthony Sbatella for his Honorable Mention AA tab. 

I guess it's preference based, but I'd rather turn it off then listen to anything Ray Bently has to say. I
find him incredibly obnoxiousness - and while he maybe able to pronounce "Tartars" correct  (which to me isn't a big deal, because if you decide to nickname your team the Tartars, quite frankly you deserve to hear it butchered) his insight is not much better the Pam Wards...

[NCF]

Too bad for Wayne State yesterday, although they did give a flicker of hope in almost getting near to either taking the lead or tying towards the end, before Pittsburg State pulled away for good.  Still, they had a great season.  That game, in addition to the 3 Div. I bowls yesterday which kicked off "Capital-One Bowl Week", were excellent and exciting games (obviously Ohio U's and UL-Lafayette's last second wins and even though Temple blew out Wyoming, it was an exciting game and good to see Temple rebound from previous poor years). Despite that they are "minor bowls" and considered worthless by many people in the "bowl game glutenous situation", I think that those just might outdo perhaps a couple of the BCS bowl games.  We'll see what happens.

The Div. II announcers once again shows why ESPN needs to get some better people for that;  Pam Ward just doesn't do it...example, when talking about Wayne State's former nickname, she kept pronouncing it as Tart-Tars, instead of Tartars Ridiculous. At least, let's get our own state's former Central Michigan University/Buffalo Bills LB Ray Bentley back in there, although he does the DI MAC games for ESPN now and, as such, probably wouldn't want to return/go back to announcing the DII and/or DIII championship games.

Yes, congrats to Alma's Anthony Sbatella for his Honorable Mention AA tab. 

I guess it's preference based, but I'd rather turn it off then listen to anything Ray Bently has to say. I
find him incredibly obnoxiousness - and while he maybe able to pronounce "Tartars" correct  (which to me isn't a big deal, because if you decide to nickname your team the Tartars, quite frankly you deserve to hear it butchered) his insight is not much better the Pam Wards...

LOL!! There is a high school in Illinois(Freeport) called the Pretzels-enough said.

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ThunderHead:

I take it, then, you are not a fan of the "Bikita & Bentley Show" on the "Huge" Sports Radio Network on WBBL in your Grand Rapids, MI area. BTW, without quickly checking the roster, doesn't Bentley's son play for Central Michigan, his dad's alma mater?

What do you think about Trine's assistant coach Dan Pifer getting the Olivet College job?

[formerd3db]

That's funny, newcardfan! +k, although I have to wait to give it to you as I guess I gave you one less than 24 hours ago .  BTW, what is a Tartar anyway?  I think that should be a new word for Bill O'Reilley to post on his nightly "word of the day" segment.

[NCF]

That's funny, newcardfan! +k, although I have to wait to give it to you as I guess I gave you one less than 24 hours ago .  BTW, what is a Tartar anyway?  I think that should be a new word for Bill O'Reilley to post on his nightly "word of the day" segment.

According to the ever reliable Wikipedia: A tartar is a Turkic person who lives in the Russian Federation. Seriously?

Also:
Tar·tar (tärtr)
n.
1. also Ta·tar (tätr) A member of any of the Turkic and Mongolian peoples of central Asia who invaded western Asia and eastern Europe in the Middle Ages.
2. Variant of Tatar.
3. often tartar A person regarded as ferocious or violent.
Idiom:
catch a Tartar
To grapple with an unexpectedly formidable opponent.

[formerd3db]

Thanks for the info newcardfan.  I had never looked up the definition before.  I suspect that Wayne State used the reference to definition #3 as I don't think the school has any ties to the Turks or Mongolian peoples, at least not in Detroit and/or none that I know of.  However, I guess the Tartar nickname doesn't matter anyway anymore because Wayne State changed it to the Warriors several years ago, complete with a neat looking "W" logo as you know.

[NCF]

Thanks for the info newcardfan.  I had never looked up the definition before.  I suspect that Wayne State used the reference to definition #3 as I don't think the school has any ties to the Turks or Mongolian peoples, at least not in Detroit and/or none that I know of.  However, I guess the Tartar nickname doesn't matter anyway anymore because Wayne State changed it to the Warriors several years ago, complete with a neat looking "W" logo as you know.

No problem-Not much to do until track season starts. And hardly anyone posts on the track board. And, IMHO I'd rather be a warrior than a tartar-no offense to any tartars.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Thanks for the info newcardfan.  I had never looked up the definition before.  I suspect that Wayne State used the reference to definition #3 as I don't think the school has any ties to the Turks or Mongolian peoples, at least not in Detroit and/or none that I know of.  However, I guess the Tartar nickname doesn't matter anyway anymore because Wayne State changed it to the Warriors several years ago, complete with a neat looking "W" logo as you know.

No problem-Not much to do until track season starts. And hardly anyone posts on the track board. And, IMHO I'd rather be a warrior than a tartar-no offense to any tartars.

OTOH, they do make a yummy sauce to go with fish sticks!

[ThunderHead]

This will come off wrong, but I don't listen to sports radio from local guys, especially Bakita and Bently (I can barely tolerate "huge" - and yes, it's lower case for a reason) . I find them all very much hard on the ears. I tried them about 1 day, that was enough. 

As for Pifer - ahh, I mean, good for him. I don't know - now that the guys I know have graduated, I haven't really paid much attention to the program. I didn't think much of him as a play caller this season, if that's what you're asking. Then again - my opinions are already well stated. No need to beat a dead horses. 

[formerd3db]

Thanks for the info newcardfan.  I had never looked up the definition before.  I suspect that Wayne State used the reference to definition #3 as I don't think the school has any ties to the Turks or Mongolian peoples, at least not in Detroit and/or none that I know of.  However, I guess the Tartar nickname doesn't matter anyway anymore because Wayne State changed it to the Warriors several years ago, complete with a neat looking "W" logo as you know.

No problem-Not much to do until track season starts. And hardly anyone posts on the track board. And, IMHO I'd rather be a warrior than a tartar-no offense to any tartars.

OTOH, they do make a yummy sauce to go with fish sticks!

Mr. Ypsi:

That is hilarious!  I always wondered if the tartar nickname had anything to do with the sauce.   Just kidding!

Yes, newcard, I'd rather be a warrior than a tartar also!

[Mr. Ypsi]

Thanks for the info newcardfan.  I had never looked up the definition before.  I suspect that Wayne State used the reference to definition #3 as I don't think the school has any ties to the Turks or Mongolian peoples, at least not in Detroit and/or none that I know of.  However, I guess the Tartar nickname doesn't matter anyway anymore because Wayne State changed it to the Warriors several years ago, complete with a neat looking "W" logo as you know.

No problem-Not much to do until track season starts. And hardly anyone posts on the track board. And, IMHO I'd rather be a warrior than a tartar-no offense to any tartars.

OTOH, they do make a yummy sauce to go with fish sticks!

Mr. Ypsi:

That is hilarious!  I always wondered if the tartar nickname had anything to do with the sauce.   Just kidding!

Yes, newcard, I'd rather be a warrior than a tartar also!

Though I dare say that most eastern Europeans in the Middle Ages would have preferred to face most 'warriors' rather than Ta(r)tars - those guys were vicious!  Probably every bit as much feared as the Vikings (though, if memory serves, I believe they were eventually defeated by the Vikings - my medieval eastern European history is far in the past and quite shaky).

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Thanks for the info newcardfan.  I had never looked up the definition before.  I suspect that Wayne State used the reference to definition #3 as I don't think the school has any ties to the Turks or Mongolian peoples, at least not in Detroit and/or none that I know of.  However, I guess the Tartar nickname doesn't matter anyway anymore because Wayne State changed it to the Warriors several years ago, complete with a neat looking "W" logo as you know.

No problem-Not much to do until track season starts. And hardly anyone posts on the track board. And, IMHO I'd rather be a warrior than a tartar-no offense to any tartars.

OTOH, they do make a yummy sauce to go with fish sticks!

Mr. Ypsi:

That is hilarious!  I always wondered if the tartar nickname had anything to do with the sauce.   Just kidding!

Yes, newcard, I'd rather be a warrior than a tartar also!

Though I dare say that most eastern Europeans in the Middle Ages would have preferred to face most 'warriors' rather than Ta(r)tars - those guys were vicious!  Probably every bit as much feared as the Vikings (though, if memory serves, I believe they were eventually defeated by the Vikings - my medieval eastern European history is far in the past and quite shaky).

Stating that "medieval eastern European history is in the far past" is a bit redundant, don't you think   

[DBQ1965]

From the Grand Rapids Press today ... the next step in a Calvin College football program.

http://www.mlive.com/smallcolleges/grandrapids/index.ssf/2011/12/calvin_college_will_weigh_posi.html

[formerd3db]

From the Grand Rapids Press today ... the next step in a Calvin College football program.

http://www.mlive.com/smallcolleges/grandrapids/index.ssf/2011/12/calvin_college_will_weigh_posi.html

It will be interesting to see what happens.  One aspect that I simply cannot understand is the reluctance of the faculty at Calvin to support this.  There is absolutely no reason whatsoever, none that they could legitimately put forth, that football would be a detriment to the college.  It obviously has not hurt Hope College in the educational aspects at all in over 100+ years.  Furthermore, Calvin can raise the $ to cover the costs of starting, maintaining the program and upgrading their facilities.  I do not doubt for one minute that they will not be able to raise that kind of $ including donors.  Besides, the Christian Reformed high schools have sustained sucessful football programs for years and I have yet to see any evidence whatsoever that has been presented by anyone (let alone Calvin College faculty) that can prove those programs have been a detriment to the educational mission and purpose of higher education at those schools; again, that would just not happen either at Calvin College.  For faculty to say otherwise, is simply being disingenuous.  I wouldn't believe them for a second because we all know that it can be done and in the right way and the right purpose.  If this proposal for Calvin does not go through, it will simply be because many of those people are football haters and they subscribe to the very misguied "Swarthemore Debacle".  And that will be very sad. Just my opinion.

[wisd3fan2]

The new D3 2012 rankings are out.
1. UW-Whitewater
2.Mary Hardin-Baylor
3.Mount Union
4.Wesley
5.McMurry
6.Salisbury
7.St Thomas
8.UW-Oshkosh
9.Trinity Tx
10.Linfield

MIAA
65 Albion
73 Adrian
82 Hope
88 Trine
Get ready it will be here sooner than you think!