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formerd3db

#8160
November 05, 2012, 09:11:45 AM
vandyboy:

I do not dispute your version of what you witnessed - obviously I wasn't there.  However, I do know some Adrian people and they related some similar behavior from Albion players.  All I was saying in my post is that not all the Adrian players acted in a poor manor - it is absolutely clear that several came over to some Albion players and are seen shaking hands and embracing them at mid-field in the video.  Of course, not everyone is able to witness all acts that go on at the field after the final gun is sounded with players, parents, coaches, administrators, friends, etc. all mingling on the field - that is impossible.  That said, poor behavior by any player or coach for either team is inexcusable.

I agree with you that the call is what it was.  Obviously, your son was in a position to see it.  Yet, as you say, it is done and time to move on.  I also don't dispute your opinion of how the game was called.  I'm simply saying that from what I've witnessed this year, the officiating has not been good for either team in some of the games we've been involved - and that applies to calls that even went in our favor at times, so I am not being biased (I never am anyway :o ::) ;D ;)).

Nonetheless, we'll see you this Saturday at the game in Albion.  I am hoping for good weather. 
"When the Great Scorer comes To mark against your name, He'll write not 'won' or 'lost', But how you played the game." - Grantland Rice

vandyboy

#8161
November 05, 2012, 01:40:45 PM
Formerd3db,

I agree 100% that I am sure not all of the Adrian players behaved in that manner.  It was just sad to see the lack of control from my perspective.

I have to say that we (Albion) have been lucky as far as our officiating goes.  Wait.....now that I say that, when we lost to Trine, the fumble recovery that was returned for a TD, which wound up being the difference in the game, when I watched the game film, our RB was clearly down when the ball came out.  But, you have to remember that the refs have to call things in real time.  No replays.  What is obvious on film I am sure is close when it happens.  That being said, again, we have fared pretty well as far as the officals goes.  My biggest 'bitch' has been the injuries.  Which is no one's fault and a part of the game.  Just makes you wonder 'what if'.

Either way, weather in Albion this Saturday is supposed to be slightly overcast, high of 58, 20% chance of rain.  Keeping my fingers crossed.  I for one am tired of sitting in the rain to watch football.

Best of luck to both teams this Saturday as we close out the 2012 season.

formerd3db

#8162
November 05, 2012, 02:09:03 PM
vandy:

Well, you are right; the officials have to call it in real time with no replays available at our level for the regular season.  Without question, officiating is a very challenging and difficult job these days.  Neither you or I and/or most people are not naive enough to think that officials don't make mistakes - it happens, of course.  My only objections are inconsistency, not knowing the rules and/or blatent unwillingness to enforce them, and not having control of the game and all situations, all of which happens (and has happened this year).  Aside from the lesser important aspect of those things potentially affecting the outcome of the game, such actions (or non-actions shall we say) lends to injury potential.  Anyway, time to move forward for next week.

I join you in mentioning that I, too, am tired of the rain for games this year!  So hopefully, even though it will be overcast and cold as you provide in the preliminary advanced forecast, let's pray that the rain (and snow) stays away! :D :)   
"When the Great Scorer comes To mark against your name, He'll write not 'won' or 'lost', But how you played the game." - Grantland Rice

Raider 68

#8163
November 08, 2012, 12:46:15 PM
Wonder how Adrian will do against Huntingdon? Could be a tough one for the Bulldogs! :-\
13 time Division III National Champions

formerd3db

#8164
November 09, 2012, 09:43:18 AM
Quote from: Raider 68 on November 08, 2012, 12:46:15 PM
Wonder how Adrian will do against Huntingdon? Could be a tough one for the Bulldogs! :-\

Raider68:

The Huntingdon game for them certainly could be a challenging one.  In only following Huntingdon from the periphery this year and recent years, they appear to be somewhat unpredictable, although certainly are not a slouch team.  Hopefully for Adrian, they will win so that it can have that "carry on" effect for them going into the playoffs.

As to your Mount, they are on "auto pilot" I would say. ;)  Right now, I'd have to agree with you and your OAC colleagues that they are the favorite to win the Stagg Bowl.  Good luck to them and hope you enjoy the game if you are going tomorrow.

Everyone i.e. all MIAA board people here, including Raider68:

As to our other MIAA teams tomorrow, Olivet plays at Kalamazoo, so will they have the chance to pull the upset - probably not, since Kazoo has been playing pretty good, although Olivet has vastly improved despite still being winless.  Alma will probably get trounced by Trine.  As for my Hope, it will be a tough road down at Albion and as I've said many times here in past years, it is always difficult for us playing down at Albion.  No doubt Albion will be "on a mission" especially after losing their home OT game last week to Adrian and in the fashion that it occurred at the end.  Anyway, good luck to everyone and their teams and wishing you all safe travels if you are going to the games.  The tentative forecast is overcast, in the low '60's and 30% chance of rain in our region, so make sure you dress for the same, although obviously, I hope the rain holds off.

P.S.  It will be interesting to see the playoff pairings, which, of course, we'll all be awaiting to see on Sunday this weekend.
"When the Great Scorer comes To mark against your name, He'll write not 'won' or 'lost', But how you played the game." - Grantland Rice

sac

#8165
November 09, 2012, 02:18:00 PM
Quote from: Raider 68 on November 08, 2012, 12:46:15 PM
Wonder how Adrian will do against Huntingdon? Could be a tough one for the Bulldogs! :-\

massey gives them a 14% chance.

Stinger

#8166
November 09, 2012, 03:00:48 PM Last Edit: November 09, 2012, 03:10:09 PM by Stinger
I thought I had seen that Huntingdon name somwhere (profanity warning..nsfw)

http://tinyurl.com/btywmb3  (link fixed).
There's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch.

Nigel Powers - Goldmember

formerd3db

#8167
November 09, 2012, 03:01:47 PM
Quote from: sac on November 09, 2012, 02:18:00 PM
Quote from: Raider 68 on November 08, 2012, 12:46:15 PM
Wonder how Adrian will do against Huntingdon? Could be a tough one for the Bulldogs! :-\

massey gives them a 14% chance.

That is interesting.  As I mentioned, Huntingdon can be tricky and I admit that I don't know that much about them (only peripherally).  Their schedule is kind of a "mixed bag" of good teams and lesser teams.  However, I'm not sure I agree with the 14% chance estimation/prediction.  If Adrian brings their "A" game, I think they will have a very good chance and/or at the very least, if they lose, I think it will be closer than a "14%" chance of winning. 
"When the Great Scorer comes To mark against your name, He'll write not 'won' or 'lost', But how you played the game." - Grantland Rice

formerd3db

#8168
November 09, 2012, 03:03:34 PM
stinger:

That is hilarious! :o ::) :D ;) 

BTW, you have been somewhat lax (or in hiding) with regard to posting with us this year.  You are missed.  That said, what is your assessment of Kazoo's season this year, the job Zorbo has done and the new stadium?
"When the Great Scorer comes To mark against your name, He'll write not 'won' or 'lost', But how you played the game." - Grantland Rice

Stinger

#8169
November 09, 2012, 04:38:27 PM
Unfotunately, I was unable to go back to Homecoming this year to see the new facilities.  They look fantastic and only feel it will help Coach Zorbo. I'm a big fan of Jamie and think he's going to have some really good teams there. It seems to me they are agonizingly close to getting to the next level which I put at top 3-4 teams in the league. I think he will get it done.  Finish .500 and build on that for next year and get those damn wooden shoes back. 
There's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch.

Nigel Powers - Goldmember

formerd3db

#8170
November 09, 2012, 10:16:59 PM Last Edit: November 09, 2012, 10:27:11 PM by formerd3db
Stinger: 
Thanks for your update and opinion.  Sorry you were unable to attend your Homecoming this year.  I agree with you that Zorbo has done a very good job.  The only aspect that I would disagree with you on, of course, is the Wooden Shoes! :o ::) ;D ;)  No way do we/I want to give those back to you guys! :)

To all...help!
Does anyone know why the helmet logo doesn't appear now when I'm posting or for that matter, others who have helmet logos?  It was working fine earlier today, however, I just noticed early this evening that it doesn't automatically appear now.  I have to click on my profile name and then click back to the Message Board and then the logo appears, at least for mine, although it seems not for some others when I do it (i.e. like Raider68's).  Those of us who have the helmet logos got those from a different source that allows those and not the Helmet project, which apparently (as wel know), changed those rules a couple of years ago.  Anyway, as I am not of "computer intellect", I'd appreciate the assistance from any of you with this. sflzman? Raider68? sac? Pat? Anyone?...Thanks. :)
"When the Great Scorer comes To mark against your name, He'll write not 'won' or 'lost', But how you played the game." - Grantland Rice

Pat Coleman

#8171
November 09, 2012, 11:54:34 PM
Formerd3db -- it looks like Alma moved the file you were using.

http://www.alma.edu/repository/athletics/live_stats/HopeFootball.GIF
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formerd3db

#8172
November 10, 2012, 09:08:16 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 09, 2012, 11:54:34 PM
Formerd3db -- it looks like Alma moved the file you were using.

http://www.alma.edu/repository/athletics/live_stats/HopeFootball.GIF

Thanks Pat.  I will contact sflzman as he was the person who helped me (and some others) in obtaining and being able to use the logo.

Hope you and your family are doing well.  Dress warm today if you are going to a game - I suspect it will be a little colder where you are than where we will be today.  It is supposed to be in the '60's today with 30% chance of rain, however, it is overcast and colder right now, so it will have to hurry up and get warmer within the next 3 hours before the 1:00 PM start of the game! ;)
"When the Great Scorer comes To mark against your name, He'll write not 'won' or 'lost', But how you played the game." - Grantland Rice

sflzman

#8173
November 10, 2012, 01:37:30 PM
This is really weird....I will look into this and see what I can find out for you guys
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