FB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[sac]

Most likely that is because their coach came from Trine, which had white helmets for a long time.  Personally, I don't really like white helmets (nothing against Wisconsin as they do have good looking helmets), however, that is just my own "preference".  Yet, if Olivet is going to have those white, helmets, I do like the white face mask, however, would prefer to see that they use a red "OC" logo like Wisconsin's - I believe it would stand out better.

Even better would be if Olivet had two helmets - the new white ones and keeping their old red ones i.e. a home and an away helmet, yet I doubt the college would do that as it would be expensive, and especiailly for Olivet, assuming their overall budget (as compared to some of the other MIAA schools).  Anyway, those are just my thoughts on this.  Thanks for posting the photo sac.  I was waiting for sflzman to do it as I couldn't find a photo of it myself.

Black helmets with some red comet flames might have been cool.  As for changing the helmets anyway ... perhaps it reflects a need to change the "football culture" at Olivet.

even better than flames.....

[formerd3db]

Most likely that is because their coach came from Trine, which had white helmets for a long time.  Personally, I don't really like white helmets (nothing against Wisconsin as they do have good looking helmets), however, that is just my own "preference".  Yet, if Olivet is going to have those white, helmets, I do like the white face mask, however, would prefer to see that they use a red "OC" logo like Wisconsin's - I believe it would stand out better.

Even better would be if Olivet had two helmets - the new white ones and keeping their old red ones i.e. a home and an away helmet, yet I doubt the college would do that as it would be expensive, and especiailly for Olivet, assuming their overall budget (as compared to some of the other MIAA schools).  Anyway, those are just my thoughts on this.  Thanks for posting the photo sac.  I was waiting for sflzman to do it as I couldn't find a photo of it myself.

Black helmets with some red comet flames might have been cool.  As for changing the helmets anyway ... perhaps it reflects a need to change the "football culture" at Olivet.

even better than flames.....

Most likely that is because their coach came from Trine, which had white helmets for a long time.  Personally, I don't really like white helmets (nothing against Wisconsin as they do have good looking helmets), however, that is just my own "preference".  Yet, if Olivet is going to have those white, helmets, I do like the white face mask, however, would prefer to see that they use a red "OC" logo like Wisconsin's - I believe it would stand out better.

Even better would be if Olivet had two helmets - the new white ones and keeping their old red ones i.e. a home and an away helmet, yet I doubt the college would do that as it would be expensive, and especiailly for Olivet, assuming their overall budget (as compared to some of the other MIAA schools).  Anyway, those are just my thoughts on this.  Thanks for posting the photo sac.  I was waiting for sflzman to do it as I couldn't find a photo of it myself.

Black helmets with some red comet flames might have been cool.  As for changing the helmets anyway ... perhaps it reflects a need to change the "football culture" at Olivet.

DBQ1965 and sac:

Ah, yes, going back to a black helmet base would be neat, but I agree with sac that the winged helmet for Olivet was very neat.  I'd like to see that with those 1908-1913 red and white striped longsleeves on their jerseys!  How about that!

[DBQ1965]

Most likely that is because their coach came from Trine, which had white helmets for a long time.  Personally, I don't really like white helmets (nothing against Wisconsin as they do have good looking helmets), however, that is just my own "preference".  Yet, if Olivet is going to have those white, helmets, I do like the white face mask, however, would prefer to see that they use a red "OC" logo like Wisconsin's - I believe it would stand out better.

Even better would be if Olivet had two helmets - the new white ones and keeping their old red ones i.e. a home and an away helmet, yet I doubt the college would do that as it would be expensive, and especiailly for Olivet, assuming their overall budget (as compared to some of the other MIAA schools).  Anyway, those are just my thoughts on this.  Thanks for posting the photo sac.  I was waiting for sflzman to do it as I couldn't find a photo of it myself.

Black helmets with some red comet flames might have been cool.  As for changing the helmets anyway ... perhaps it reflects a need to change the "football culture" at Olivet.

even better than flames.....

Most likely that is because their coach came from Trine, which had white helmets for a long time.  Personally, I don't really like white helmets (nothing against Wisconsin as they do have good looking helmets), however, that is just my own "preference".  Yet, if Olivet is going to have those white, helmets, I do like the white face mask, however, would prefer to see that they use a red "OC" logo like Wisconsin's - I believe it would stand out better.

Even better would be if Olivet had two helmets - the new white ones and keeping their old red ones i.e. a home and an away helmet, yet I doubt the college would do that as it would be expensive, and especiailly for Olivet, assuming their overall budget (as compared to some of the other MIAA schools).  Anyway, those are just my thoughts on this.  Thanks for posting the photo sac.  I was waiting for sflzman to do it as I couldn't find a photo of it myself.

Black helmets with some red comet flames might have been cool.  As for changing the helmets anyway ... perhaps it reflects a need to change the "football culture" at Olivet.

DBQ1965 and sac:

Ah, yes, going back to a black helmet base would be neat, but I agree with sac that the winged helmet for Olivet was very neat.  I'd like to see that with those 1908-1913 red and white striped longsleeves on their jerseys!  How about that!

Since the Lodi Flames in California was "my" school ... I just naturally think in terms of flames.

[sflzman]

Per the twitted world:

A trio of Ithaca commits have been announced.

WR - Caden Kipp to Alma (actually have known that for a while)
OL - Mike Mallory to Alma (very good baseball player)
DB - Jordan Hessbrook to Kalamazoo (younger brother Logan - the QB who replaced Travis Smith in the state finals game - is a very talented basketball and baseball player. On the hill this year hes 5-0 with 3 no-bitters to his name)

Alma OL/DL Mitchell Mott to Trine
Alma QB Vinny Costanzo (probably a slot in college) declines multiple MIAA schools and will walk-on at Northwood.

I think I'm forgetting another. I'll post that if/when I do

[formerd3db]

sflzman:

Thanks for the pre-season MIAA update regarding recruiting/early commitment info.  Most interesting.

Also, to you and everyone else here:

I just saw where Michigan State announced today they were going to do a $20 million renovation to Spartan Stadium.  What's with that?  They just spent millions in renovating it about 8 years or less ago.  They are adding a building at one end of it for locker rooms, a media center and concessions stands.  I am not sure why they need to do this as they already have locker rooms at the stadium, good concessions areas at the stadium, and a media center both at the stadium and at the huge, spacious football offices/indoor practice center/academic tutoring hall right across the street from the stadium (and a third set of locker rooms at the latter).  I am also not sure why they see the need to spend yet, even more $, although the announcement said they are doing it through donations and fundraising, apparently independent of taxpayer's $.  However, I would also not be surprised to see them end up raising ticket prices even more for this when it is all said and done.  If they do so, seems to me Dantonio and staff will need to step it up "big time" as far as the W-L column is and a better product than they have fielded the last 2-3 years.  It will be interesting to see what happens.  Guess everyone want's to "keep up with the Joneses" when it comes to the non-playing football aspects.

[sac]

I think MSU's improvements are part of a larger plan to encircle the stadium structure with an external gate.  Both for public safety and for crowd control purposes, also esthetics.

[formerd3db]

I think MSU's improvements are part of a larger plan to encircle the stadium structure with an external gate.  Both for public safety and for crowd control purposes, also esthetics.

I can understand it from that standpoint.  However, you would think they would have had an overall Master Plan as most do, instead of this "piecemeal" add-ons.  Then again, I suppose people could say the same thing about your/my beloved Michigan when they did those unsightly renovations of the Yellow upper tier stadium "boards" before they discontinued those and put it back to a more traditional look as it had been and is now.

[formerd3db]

Most likely many of you have already read/heard about this, however, a sad note that the search for former Grand Valley State star QB Cullen Finnerty, who had been missing since Sunday evening while on a Memorial Day weekend fishing trip up to his family's cottage in Lake County, MI (Baldwin River area some 65 miles north of Grand Rapids, MI) concluded last evening with finding him dead in the woods of unknown causes.  Autopsy results are expected to be released later today according to the press announcements so far.  A very unfortunate tragedy.  My thoughts and prayers go out to his wife, family, friends and his overall "Grand Valley family" of former teammates, coaches, staff, friends and fellow students.

[D306]

Sad to hear about Cullen
Our prayers go out to the family.

I remember him in HS and College amazing run at GVSU
Let's hope the family can find some peace with their loss.

Long time away from Board, should be back in Michigan a little more this year.
What games should I catch?, need to see the updates to a few stadiums in the MIAA.
Glad to see some of the Loyal long time posters are on the board keeping the comments and history moving.

I will hit up a few coaching buddies and find out what I can about Players heading to the MIAA from Metro Detroit Area.

[DBQ1965]

Since I post on here once in a while ... I thought I would share something I put on the IIAC page.

I know preseason polls don't mean much ... but Sporting News is out with rankings for D-3.  The top 10 are: 

1. Linfield
2. Mount Union
3. Wisconsin-Whitewater
4. St. Thomas
5. Mary Hardin-Baylor
6. Wesley
7. Wittenberg
8. Wisconsin-Oskosh
9. Johns Hopkins
10. North Central

Other midwest teams of interest ... 13. Bethel ... 16. Wheaton ... 20. Coe ... 24. Wisconsin-Platteville.

Just some grist for the mill.

[Uncle Rico]

It sure would be nice to see someone other than Mount Union or Whitewater finish at the top.   

[D3MAFAN]

It sure would be nice to see someone other than Mount Union or Whitewater finish at the top.   

It would be nice, but what these programs have done for the last decade is amazing. Unless these teams have consectively bad seasons (no championship), which I highly doubt. I believe other programs have to use them as a measuring stick and see what they do and not do what they do, but do more than what they do, that is the only way to compete and win at their level of play. Nevertheless, you do see other teams, UMHB, St. Thomas, Wesley and Linfield are teams that come to mind that are trying to break throught and consistently establish themselves as real national championship contenders year in and year out.

[sigma one]

In the last three years (2010, 2011, 2012) six teams have finished in the D3FB Post-Season Top 10 each year:  Mt. Union, Mary Hardin-Baylor, St. Thomas, Linfield, North Central, and Wesley.  UW Whitewater missed last year, but they have clearly been a force for so long.  Those six teams are the consistent cream of the crop in DIII.  When you (I) think about it, being in the Top 10 for three consecutive yers is quite an achievement. 
     During these years the others in the Top 10 were UW Oshkosh, Elmhurst, Hobart, Widener  (2012); Wabash, Salisbury, Kean (2011); Bethel, Ohio Northern, and Trine (2010). Each of these teams appeared once.
     Also, during these years only one team--UW Oshkosh-- (leaving in UW Whitewater) has appeared in the Top 5.   Mt. Union and Mary Hardin-Baylor have finished in the Top 5 all three years. In 2009, four years ago, six of the seven appeared (UW Whitewater was Nat'l Champion).  The others in 2008 were Wittenberg, Central, Illinois Wesleyan, and Coe.   
     I had to go back to 2008, five years ago, to see the top teams blown apart.  That year the Top 10 was Mt. Union, UW Whitewater, Mary Hardin-Baylor, Willamette, Wheaton, Cortland St., Hardin-Simmons, Franklin, North Central, and Wartburg. So, apart from the seven teams named above, no team has appeared more than once in the Final Poll Top 10.  To, me that's amazing. 
     (I hope I am correct here.  If not, please take me to task.)  In any event, clearly there is an "elite" with others nibbling at the edges if you go deeper, say taking the Top 20.  It appears the for the moment the task of other schools is to break into the Top 10, even once.     

[Raider 68]

Have not posted on the board in awhile. What does everyone think about this fall in terms of the
conference, who is favored and what are the top non-conference games? Who are the top 3 and why
going into the fall.

Hope everyone is well and enjoying the summer!

[D3MAFAN]

Have not posted on the board in awhile. What does everyone think about this fall in terms of the
conference, who is favored and what are the top non-conference games? Who are the top 3 and why
going into the fall.

Hope everyone is well and enjoying the summer!

I like the Concordia-Chicago vs. Adrian game. Two playoff teams from a year ago. Trine vs. Elmhurst looks to be a good game. I would say the rematch of Albion vs. Wheaton, last years game was great. I think the three teams mentioned from the MIAA are the teams to beat.