FB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[D306]

Is there a location that has the 2009 schedules for the MIAA
I do not see it on teams websites?
Possibly not all teams have the schedule complete though I would think most would.

OK pretty general question but I am looking for a way to get the MIAA site to 200 pages before Christmas

[DutchDad]

I don't know about the other schools, but Hope's future schedules are posted here:

http://www.hope.edu/athletics/fb/future.html

[WLCALUM83]

Is there a location that has the 2009 schedules for the MIAA
I do not see it on teams websites?
Possibly not all teams have the schedule complete though I would think most would.

OK pretty general question but I am looking for a way to get the MIAA site to 200 pages before Christmas

Suggestions to try to get to Page 200:

How about talking about your favorite MIAA one-time underdog FB team that made good? (be it for just one year, or the beginning of a rise to being a perennial power) (My example of this --before WLC left the MIAA--is Tri-State/Trine. I remember the Thunder upsetting Olivet back in '06, having to repeatedly reassure that the score wasn't a mis-print back then, and look at Trine now!)

   Or:

How expected was it the year Albion took it all?

   Or:

Will the Detroit Lions go 0-16?

[sac]

Will the Detroit Lions go 0-16?

New Orleans, unlikely, though its the last home game but the Saints are still fighting for the playoff however small those chances are.  They may have been eliminated already, not sure.

Might sound funny but the Lions can win at Green Bay in two weeks.  It would also be like the Lions to win their last two so they miss out on the overall #1 pick.  Its between Cincinnati, St. Louis and Detroit.........the Lions have a 2 game "lead".  I'm not sure how those tie-breakers work out.

[sac]

Is there a location that has the 2009 schedules for the MIAA
I do not see it on teams websites?

Hope's MIAA schedule is exactly the same with the locations reversed from this year.   I would guess the rest of the MIAA is the same.

(remembering the Alma/Hope game was supposed to be two weeks earlier than it was played.)

[sac]

I was reminded tonight the Saints are out of the playoff hunt officialy, so there's the opening.

[D306]

Thank You for schedule replies.

Hope again has a tough out of conference schedule.

RE: the Lions  I am hoping they win at home this week, no way they win in Green Bay last week of year.

Start Dan-O he is pretty solid and improving.
Draft lineman both sides of the ball with every pick they can, and possible Ohio State LB if he is till around.

QB has no chance presently, until the line play improves why get a another QB to get damaged, let Dan O develop and see if he is a player or not. There is always a QB available every season that is a veteran.  I see no Mannings/Brady in this draft.  Culpepper is not the answer, he has been done since 2002

By the way Michiagn D coordinator retired  thankfully..3-5-3 defense what are we playing in the XFL and and the teams have everybosy in motion so we need all "skill players"  get a stout 4-3 and some speed in DB's a SS with an attitude to hit somebody with bad intent and things will improve.

[D306]

Sorry  correction RE: UofM defense

3-3-5 not 3-35-3 that is the problem Trick/Gemic Defense with the atheletes UofM had, dumb idea

[Mr. Ypsi]

Sorry  correction RE: UofM defense

3-3-5 not 3-35-3 that is the problem Trick/Gemic Defense with the atheletes UofM had, dumb idea

Hey, I bet THAT defense would work pretty danged well!

[Unless you get some dang math-major ref. ]

[sac]

Sorry  correction RE: UofM defense

3-3-5 not 3-35-3 that is the problem Trick/Gemic Defense with the atheletes UofM had, dumb idea

Get used to it, this is Rich Rod's preference.  It was Shafer that wanted to stay with the 4-3, and depending who you ask was forced to use the 3-3-5, which was a disaster.

Shafer made an interesting comment today about being solely responsible for the current state of the Michigan program.  Not sure what to make of this.......he's either an incredibly generous fall guy or things just didn't work out and he was the obvious 5th wheel on a staff that has mostly worked together before.

Michigan has many talent deficiencies, the most obvious QB, the other two LB and S.  The middle linebacker is recruited FB, and one safety a recruited RB.   Doesn't matter what scheme you use if your not strong in those two places on the field.

Next year that weekness will again be LB and S positions, although there is hope a couple redshirt Fr. or true Fr can step in.........and thats the problem,  Freshman.  But next year we get the added bonus of a very thin Dline, they may be forced to play a 3-3-5 because they won't have enough DL.  I'm not sure any d-coordinator can step in and make drastic improvements.  I hope so, but I'm not confident.

[sac]

Oh and my brother made the most astute observation of the season somewhere in the middle of the Wisconsin game.

"I don't understand how they can have different coaches and still tackle like crap"

[formerd3db]

Well, Rodriquez better do something or he'll be in trouble - i.e. on the hot seat even more (which, BTW, won't make me sad at all...and I'm a Michigan fan!)

Since we're talking about a variety of subjects including MIAA topics and beyond (to help us get to the 200 page milestone ), I was surprised to see that Brady Hoeke left Ball State.  Of course, it's obvious he left for the $ and who can blame him in one sense.  Yet it is still somewhat disappointing to see some of these guy jump/abandon the ship especially when it seems they are just getting a program on the rise.  While we all know that MAC programs like Ball State are not going to have those type of seasons year in and year out, nonetheless, it seems like every time someone gets one of those programs near the "next level", they leave and it has to start all over again.  Oh well.

Also, I was greatly disappointed that Charles Barkley had to inject the race card into the Auburn coaching selection, although that doesn't surprise me from him.  His stock in the "respect category" has continued to go down hill for a long time and IMO, is below rock bottom.  There is, at least to our knowledge, no evidence or any reports that racism played a part and he and some of his "croanies" always feel they have to make this an issue.  Sorry, but just my $0.02 worth on that topic.

[formerd3db]

Oh and my brother made the most astute observation of the season somewhere in the middle of the Wisconsin game.

"I don't understand how they can have different coaches and still tackle like crap"

A very astute comment, sac!   Very true!  Sad, but true!

[sac]

Wasn't surprised Hoke left myself, thats as good as he's going to do at Ball State.  They've had two winning seasons since 1996, last year at 7-6 and this years 12-1.

Consider that Ball State had the #119 ranked schedule according to one source, out of 120 teams.

Next year Ball State will play Auburn, not sure what the rest of it looks like,  the chances they pull off another 10 or 11 win season is pretty slim in my estimation.  Hoke's maximizing his value while he can.

He was offered 3 times his Ball State salary to go to San Diego State, no brainer............its San Diego over Muncie.  A better conference and a chance to resurect a pretty meh football program, with a much better and bigger recruiting territory.

In some ways I think the NCAA has created this monster, when they leveled the playing field years ago, they took programs that were perenial losers and gave them hope.  Now doormat programs think they can be USC, and think they should hire and fire to get the next great thing.  Coaches have too much leverage, alumni and big doners have too much influence etc.  Very few have the patience to let coaches build something.

Tommy Tubberville is the latest example, here's a coach who was nearly railroaded out a couple season's ago.  And now finds himself out of a job for no other reason than a few boosters think they can do better after one bad season, and they got stuck with Chizek. 

Tubs 4 years at Auburn previous to this one
04 13-0
05 9-3
06 11-2
07  9-4

This include 3 bowl wins out of 4, and the SEC Championship in 2004, not to mention beating Alabama 6 straight years.  Absolutely ludicrous he gets fired (or is asked to resign) for one bad season


I've always thought Tubberville was one of the cleverest around, I think Auburn will miss him a lot. (Rodriguez left in the wrong year by the way, he would have had his pick of Tennessee, Clemson and Auburn this year and each would have bid him up BIG!!!)

[sac]

Lloyd Carr's still busy trying to keep his cronies employed, Stan Parrish was named the new Ball State head coach. 

Carr is also rumored to have advised Eastern Michigan on who to interview.  No surprise 4 of the candidates are Corwin Brown (played, never coached at UM), Ron English, Mike Debord, and Erik Campbell.

I hope none of them take the job,  because its such a black hole for coaches.