FB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[DBQ1965]

(Will try this again )

Thanks OC_SID.  We would never want to do that!  You input is valued here.  BTW, since we've brought up the topic, can you possibly address those two recent rumors regarding Olivet possibly leaving the MIAA and Dom stepping down/retiring as Head Coach - are you at liberty to discuss any of that?  If not, we understand. 

Its good anytime the SID or someone from that office posts on these pages. 

[formerd3db]

(Will try this again )

Thanks OC_SID.  We would never want to do that!  You input is valued here.  BTW, since we've brought up the topic, can you possibly address those two recent rumors regarding Olivet possibly leaving the MIAA and Dom stepping down/retiring as Head Coach - are you at liberty to discuss any of that?  If not, we understand. 

Its good anytime the SID or someone from that office posts on these pages. 

I would agree, yet obviously they have to be careful, using their professional discretion in doing so.   This certainly is a slightly different situation with regard to the "unwritten and accepted rule here and by the coaches themselves" as to coaches and active players not posting. 

[rome]

Glad to have found a solid answer--thank you OC SID

[D306]

Does anyone know when Academic All American List is posted?

Is this done at the end of the College year and all the sports listed, or is after each season?

I have been searching the internet for an answer to no avail.

I know a few MIAA players whom have the grades, though I do not truely know the requirements or procedure.

By the way pretty poorly played NC championship game last night.
Way to many dumb penalities, and OK offensive play calling was suspect, should have been in hurry up all night, moved ball with that system.

Tebow is a horse, strong arm, fairly accurate, but a slow release will hurt him on next level.
Can not just run, Vince Young proves that, strong arm, poor delivery strong runner adds up to great college player but flash in pan in pros.

Hope I am wrong about Tebow I really like him, his enthusiasm and the off the feild persona.

[OC_SID]

Does anyone know when Academic All American List is posted?

Is this done at the end of the College year and all the sports listed, or is after each season?

I have been searching the internet for an answer to no avail.

I know a few MIAA players whom have the grades, though I do not truely know the requirements or procedure.

The Academic All-District/America teams for football are done in-season ...

MIAA football players on the 2008 Academic All-District IV teams were:
      Alex Hill, Olivet -- first-team DB
      Sean Misko, Olivet -- second-team RB
      Phil Koops, Olivet -- second-team OL
      Michael Terranova, Olivet -- second-team DB
      Jimmy Semelsberger, Kalamazoo -- second-team WR
      Nate Kopydlowski, Kalamazoo -- second-team LB

First-team selections from each of the eight CoSIDA districts advance to the national Academic All-America ballot. Therefore, Alex was the only one to advance and he was not named to any of the three national Academic All-America teams.

Basic criteria for nomination:
     3.30 or higher GPA
     Athlete must have played in at 50% of team's games at the position listed
     Must have completed one full academic year at the current institution
     Starter or important reserve

[D306]

OC_SID

1 karma for you, fast and factual reply

Funny 1 player I am thinking of had a 3.9 GPA played in 9 of 10 games hurt for 1.  He also is a upperclassmen with a 3.76 GPA overall.
I know he covers all the criteria, is it based also on some number of catchs, tackles,  passing / rushing yards etc... compared to other players in the same postion?

[Pat Coleman]

Schools nominate players and then SIDs throughout the region vote. Whatever criteria they choose is up to them, but a player is supposed to be a key contributor on the field as well as strong in the classroom.

When I voted in the mid-90s, I definitely gave more weight to specific majors but I usually went for star players with strong GPAs over star students with average on-field credentials.

[D306]

Pat/OC_SID

Thanks for the replies.

I suspected it had more to do with being in the top 5 of your position in stats then academic record, which it should be, a recognition of great on the feild and off the feild production.

Some good games this weekend in the pro's stay warm and hopefully not snowed in.

[Pat Coleman]

You also have to be nominated, of course, and I know from the D3football.com All-Region teams that getting some schools to nominate is like pulling teeth. We go through an extra step or two now to try to make sure every worthy student-athlete gets nominated but that's not all that possible with an academic all-american team, since GPAs aren't exactly widespread public knowledge.

[formerd3db]

You also have to be nominated, of course, and I know from the D3football.com All-Region teams that getting some schools to nominate is like pulling teeth. We go through an extra step or two now to try to make sure every worthy student-athlete gets nominated but that's not all that possible with an academic all-american team, since GPAs aren't exactly widespread public knowledge.

Pat:

That is interesting, yet also surprising.  You would think that just the essence of being "DIII" that the schools (i.e. the SIDs and ADs) would be enthusiastic and determined to nominate their qualified student-athletes for this and thus further promote the academic accalodes.  As you well know, DI has had these academic all-americnan teams for years, yet it wasn't until the 1980's that many of the DIII conferences started really promoting those post-season teams, with the assistance of some organizations such as Kodak, the SID national organization, etc., etc.  Anyway, thanks for enlightening us further on this.

[formerd3db]

I posted my comments regarding this on two other boards, so I won't reiterate those again here other than to say that I think Detroit and Cleveland (and even perhaps Indy now that Dungy is reported as stepping down later this afternoon), may have "missed the boat" in not selecting Josh McDaniels as their hc as Denver has apparently announced.  Congrats to McDaniels, a DIII product and wishing him all the best in his next position.

[sac]

McDaniels is coach people have heard of, that eliminates him from consideration for the Lions immediately.

[formerd3db]

sac, you are right as usual!!

[Mr. Ypsi]

Have we already forgotten MSU's Darryl Rogers and Izzo's buddy Steve Mariucci?

(We're trying, but the nightmares keep returning.)

[formerd3db]

Mr. Ypsi:

How true, how true!   You never cease to amaze me.  Between you and sac on here, "you keep us at the top of our game" or rather, better said, at least trying to be there!  Hope you are doing well.

BTW, it was probably mentioned on one of the other boards of recent if I recall correctly (my apologies for as I've posted some of recent, I haven't been "intently reviewing in great detail every post on the boards"), but what DIII players, if any, have been selected for the "big-time" annual college football all-star bowl games (i.e. Hula, Senior, etc.)?