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[ADAWGISADAWG4LIFE]

Boredatwork56:

Adrian had their subs in in the 3rd scores for them came from backups after the half.  I to have been on a side of a game where the score was being run up, my freshman year lose to Albion 56-10 still brings back bad bad memories...

[BoredatWork56]

Boredatwork56:

Adrian had their subs in in the 3rd scores for them came from backups after the half.  I to have been on a side of a game where the score was being run up, my freshman year lose to Albion 56-10 still brings back bad bad memories...

ADAWG: 

I dont know if that says more about Kzoo's D or Adrian's depth, although i assume that Kzoo was also playing their reserves. I was on the wrong end of a 73-0 game against Albion, on Tri-State's homecoming no less.  This was a game where Albion's starters were not pulled until extreamly late in the game and where unnecessary shots were taken (if I remember right, the 73rd point came on a long field goal near the end of the game) and there are still ill feelings about that game as well.

[BOYA87]

Wow, a lot of good topics coming on today.

First I'll comment on Adrian Kzoo.  There was a lot of talk about this game coming in and people saying Kzoo had a shot at an upset.  I think some of the Adrian players might have read some of those comments and taken it to heart.  They put a beat down on Kzoo.  I wouldn't say that I every thought Kzoo was going to pull an upset, but with the way their season had started I had very high hopes that a very down team in recent years was making a huge surge much like the Tri-State/Trine of recent.  I was hoping to see their offense continue to produce but it looks like Adrian picked them apart on both offense and defense. 

Albion looks to have handled Olivet fairly easily and Olivet looks to continue to struggle.  No one may expect Olivet to contend for the MIAA Championship but I full expect them to have a spoiler opportunity for some contender that overlooks them.

Trine vs Hope was the game I got to attend this weekend and I was impressed with both teams.  I thought coming into the game that Trines running attack would have the advantage should the weather be bad but Hopes running game was impressive.  Definitely a different offense than I remember playing against.  Their full back was huge and it didn't take much for him to make a hole for their tailback.  Also Hopes tight end #86 was a HUGE target for their QB during the game.  If it got to be 3rd down you better believe Hope was looking at #86.  Even in scrambling situations the QB always seemed to find his big target. 

Trine on the other hand still had an impressive offensive game.  Kent Biller (RB) did not get to play last week against Franklin due to a death in his family but boy did he come back strong!  Ever since Coach Land took over for the Thunder they have utilized many different running backs in the offense, but Biller is an every down back and they used him as such this weekend.  He is amazingly quick, fast, and strong.  He pops through holes that are only there for an instance and if he gets into open space you better take a good pursuit angle to catch him.  I wouldn't want to be a D coordinator trying to game plan against the arm and running abilities of Watt at QB and now the running threat of this young RB as well.

Alma had a bye but I very much look forward to the Trine @ Alma match-up.  Alma always gives Trine a good game and their offense has put up big numbers.  It could be a shoot out in Alma Michigan on Saturday.

[Carl Yastrzemski]

I rarely post on this board, I am more of a basketball fan. But I had to break up the "who got beat by Albion worse" support group. I must say the amount of information you can find on the internet is great. A quick search of the stat sheets for the two games in question reveals some interesting things.

Boredatwork- I haven't laughed this hard in a while. That had to be the first time I have ever heard of an extra point being called a long field goal. You were correct on one thing, the 73rd point came late in the game, only because the Albion reserve players went on a 13 play drive ending with a TD taking more than 7 minutes off the clock. It looks like none of the scoring drives by the 1st team offense took more than 5 plays. The only FG Albion tried took place in the 1st qtr and they missed it.

Adawg- Looking at the stat sheet I would find it hard to say the score was run up. Yes it was a lopsided score, but it looks like the starters were out with more than half of the 3rd qtr remaining. One of the 2nd half scores was a fumble return by the defense for a TD. Turning the ball over 4 times in the 2nd half didn't help Adrian out either.  At least 30 players recorded a tackle for the Albion defense, and it looks like 7 different RBs carried the ball. It sure does seem like they cleared the bench.

That is all for me this football season. I look forward to seeing most of you during another exciting MIAA basketball season.

[ACRULZ]

First I'll comment on Adrian Kzoo.  There was a lot of talk about this game coming in and people saying Kzoo had a shot at an upset.  I think some of the Adrian players might have read some of those comments and taken it to heart.  They put a beat down on Kzoo.  I wouldn't say that I every thought Kzoo was going to pull an upset, but with the way their season had started I had very high hopes that a very down team in recent years was making a huge surge much like the Tri-State/Trine of recent.  I was hoping to see their offense continue to produce but it looks like Adrian picked them apart on both offense and defense. 

First of all K-Zoo beat 3 really, really bad teams, and then lost to a bad team...I don't understand where all of the hype came from.

Trine beat quality opponents on their way to the top, I must say there is no comparison there.  I also agree that Adrian must have been fed up hearing about Kalamazoo all week long...they certainly made K-Zoo look like K-Zoo. 

I believe Adrian's record is a bit misleading...yes they beat Defiance and Bluffton...two bad teams, but also had very competitive games with Capital (#21 in the country) and Lake Erie, who has become quite a competitive team and will be joining the GLIAC next season.  Adrian had opportunities to beat Capital in the 4th and were up on Lake Erie 21-0...to become a great team we all know the Bulldogs need to win these games...however, the blatant disrespect of people giving K-Zoo soooo much credit as to pick them over Adrian??  I believe that just ticked the Bulldogs off just a bit!

[BoredatWork56]

Carl-

Thanks for putting in the legwork to clear up some memories of a game that, for the most part, have tried to forget.

[Diezel1]

I was just reading the article on d3football.com about Kzoo and maybe Adrian got some extra motivation by that article.  It will be interesting to see how their offense fares against Olivet.  Although Olivet is struggling, conference play is completely different than bad non-conference teams

[BOYA87]

First I'll comment on Adrian Kzoo.  There was a lot of talk about this game coming in and people saying Kzoo had a shot at an upset.  I think some of the Adrian players might have read some of those comments and taken it to heart.  They put a beat down on Kzoo.  I wouldn't say that I every thought Kzoo was going to pull an upset, but with the way their season had started I had very high hopes that a very down team in recent years was making a huge surge much like the Tri-State/Trine of recent.  I was hoping to see their offense continue to produce but it looks like Adrian picked them apart on both offense and defense. 

First of all K-Zoo beat 3 really, really bad teams, and then lost to a bad team...I don't understand where all of the hype came from.

Trine beat quality opponents on their way to the top, I must say there is no comparison there.  I also agree that Adrian must have been fed up hearing about Kalamazoo all week long...they certainly made K-Zoo look like K-Zoo. 

I believe Adrian's record is a bit misleading...yes they beat Defiance and Bluffton...two bad teams, but also had very competitive games with Capital (#21 in the country) and Lake Erie, who has become quite a competitive team and will be joining the GLIAC next season.  Adrian had opportunities to beat Capital in the 4th and were up on Lake Erie 21-0...to become a great team we all know the Bulldogs need to win these games...however, the blatant disrespect of people giving K-Zoo soooo much credit as to pick them over Adrian??  I believe that just ticked the Bulldogs off just a bit!

I agree, but it was wishful thinking on my part to see a down team begin theyr rise.  I am all for the competitiveness of the MIAA and I hope all the teams become contenders for good competition AND strength of schedule sakes!

but as far as picking that as an upset I did not.  I posted early last week my pick for that game as Adrian 31 Kzoo 17.  I guess if anything I didnt give Adrians offense enough credit.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Re: Adrian/Kazoo - I haven't gone back to check what may have been said on THIS board, but as the MIAA Pickems compiler I can tell you the picks were unanimously for Adrian.

[formerd3db]

Not intending to cause some irritation here or be "argumentative", however, since these topics have been brought up and discussed, I'll throw in my $0.02 worth for the sake of "sprited discussion"!

First, to my respected Adrian friends here on the board.  I have to agree with our good friend Mr. Ypsi on this Adrian topic.  Also, I don't, whatsoever, believe that anyone here on the board meant any disrespect towards Adrian with regards to the discussion of a possible Kazoo win in that game.  While I, indeed, said that in effect that Kazoo could potentially pull an upset, I did pick Adrian to win.  Furthermore, in games such as that and as you all know, many times, it doesn't matter "who has played who" in the past - even if they are "bad" teams (and both Adrian and Kazoo did play some very less talented teams as has been correctly mentioned) - a team can surprise someone and rise to the occasion to pull an upset.  There was a real possibility that Kazoo could have done so this year, perhaps more than in past years - although, admittedly less likely and again accounting for why most of us picked Adrian.  This has happened many times in the MIAA even in recent years (too numerous to mention here, although I can provide you with specific examples if you desire).  

As to the topic of "running up the score", it does happen, although also infrequent.  Case in point; Albion did so in 1996 against Alma in an ugly 80-40 win (and unfortunately it was blatent), although Alma repaid them the following year without "running up the score" in a 58-16 win the following year.  One never likes to see that happen, but it does, although again, in frequent.  Now you Albion people, please don't go "off the deep end" and berate me for mentioning this as, again, my intention is not to "throw stones" rather just mentioning some factual aspects that have happend in the past with respect to the topic of discussion.

Anyway, as far as this upcoming weekend, I've already given my opinion that it will be a very tough, rough game as usual between Albion and Hope, even though it is Hope's Homecoming.  Albion always plays a tough game there and I expect perhaps a "barnburner", yet as we all know, someone could conversely just "blow it out" i.e. if it got out of control at some point (has happened before).  My Hope is that obviously Hope wins and that there is good sportsmanship, unlike what happend a couple of years ago when Albion visted here that year.  Good, heated rivalry is good, as long as sportsmanship is kept priority (can you also say U of Mich/Mich State? !

We'll see how things play out for the teams that have perhaps the better shot at the title (Adrian, Alma, Albion Trine and perhaps Hope).  I also agree that Kazoo and Olivet will be spoilers.  Obviously, some of the  teams who lose this week will be out of the running. - certainly that applies to Hope.  

All that being said, let's hope for better weather this weekend (although the weather last weekend wasn't all that bad), but it is October and with what has been going on already this week, it might not be promising.  But, the games go on!  Thanks everyone for some great discussion on this board.  It has been extremely more active than it usually has been in the past years and that is good!

[Mr. Ypsi]

Tigers 4, Twins 4, top of the 8th.

Tigers have men on 1st and 2nd with one out.

For heaven sake, if you are not watching (or at least listening), TURN IT ON!

[sac]

The "lack of respect" angle has been so played in this state.........


but fwiw, I was handed this last week.....


I have to admit, it was funnier on Friday.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Tigers had men at first and third, no one out in the top of the ninth.  Couldn't score.

Heading for the tenth.

[Mr. Ypsi]

After stranding approximately 347 baserunners, the Tigers lose in the bottom of the 12th.

Since I never imagined them leading the division for nearly the entire season, I can't be TOO disappointed, but it still leaves a bitter taste.  Kinda like my league bowling today - I had my best series in years, but it SHOULD have been so much better!

[A game that begins XX/XXX/ is criminally under performing to finish 195! ]

[sac]

After stranding approximately 347 baserunners, the Tigers lose in the bottom of the 12th.

Since I never imagined them leading the division for nearly the entire season, I can't be TOO disappointed, but it still leaves a bitter taste.  Kinda like my league bowling today - I had my best series in years, but it SHOULD have been so much better!

[A game that begins XX/XXX/ is criminally under performing to finish 195! ]

Blame the rest of rest of the Central Division, who went 1-17 vs the Twins down the stretch.