FB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[cave2bens]

The App St vs. Montana game was one of the best games i have seen in a long time.

you think TV mad the call for it to be a night game when it would be bitter cold or did the host site get to choose.  i know the boys from north carolina must have been thrilled!

At 34 degrees, overcast, and raining - Boone wouldn't have been much better! 

[formerd3db]

I agree - the Montana/Appal. State game was one of the best I've seen in a long time as well.  It was great seeing the stadium at capacity as you mentioned.  I, too, would have liked to see it go into overtime, and it was disappointing for that WR to drop the potentially game tying TD.  I do believe, however, that Appal. State's QB did not throw his passes as well in those last 4 plays near the goal line.  While he was pressured, he tried to force the passes in covered situations rather than looking for the other outlets and/or had already made a decision at before or at the snap as to which specific receiver he was going to throw to.  Still, he had a great, natural arm especially throwing in those weather conditions.  Regardless, both teams played well and Montana did deserve to win.  I guess it is just fitting that they, as the #1 ranked team be playing in the final i.e. title game next week.  As I've said, I think that will be a good game against 'Nova.

cave2bens - I think you are right!

[formerd3db]

Yesterday I told my wife that if GVSU won another national champtionship, Coach Martin would move on to be the DC at ND ... and if they lost, he would be back at GVSU to take another shot at it.  Now we shall see.

I think you are probably right.  The ESPN announcers mentioned that Martin had said since he had turned down Kelly twice, that his opportunity had probably been now missed i.e. he was skeptical that Kelly would ask him now to come to ND.  Had he gone to Cincy with Kelly, I think that he would definitely be at ND with Kelly.  Martin said he would go to ND if asked by Kelly regardless of the outcome of the title game, however, now that GSVU lost it, I agree with you that it is less likely he will be at ND i.e. I think that if Kelly was still thinking even the slightest about asking him, now that they lost, that slight chance is possibly gone (although in reality, why would it be?  If Kelly thought he was good enough before, why not now, just because of one game loss.  You have to look at the overall record as well as "state of the program".  Anyway, as you say, we will have to wait and see what plays out.

[SaintsFAN]

formerd3db,

Hope things are well for you.  I'm trying to get down to Salem this Saturday, but its "wait and see" with work.  I referenced the "hit" from Justin Harris in 1999 on the OAC board... you might find it interesting.

[formerd3db]

formerd3db,

Hope things are well for you.  I'm trying to get down to Salem this Saturday, but its "wait and see" with work.  I referenced the "hit" from Justin Harris in 1999 on the OAC board... you might find it interesting.

AF (formerly SF):

Thanks, I'm doing fine - plugging along and surviving like you and everyone else.  I hope you have a great time at the Stagg Bowl - say hello to all our d3fb.com guys/colleagues for me.  I wish I could join you there.  I did go back and read your reference about that hit up at Alma that year you were involved in and remember it well.  I agree with you - when it comes to concussions (and especially if there are other residual complications i.e. siezures, headaches, etc.) you don't mess around with those.  In fact, my son-in-law just had one last Thurs night - a former collegiate player, he now is an assist. coach for his h.s. hockey team and fell on the ice at practice.  He had a grade III one also.  I sat with him in the ER for about 4-5 hours - they admitted him overnight, he is doing better, but has some residual headache, and very lucky (CT scan neg).  He got my "lecture" about not wearing his helmet, even for practice!  After last year's tragic incident involving Liam Nissan's wife, I wasn't taking any chances.  Anyway, I'm glad the NFL is taking a harder look at this - even at that level, IMO, the players are crazy if they take chances as many have said they do, but you know that many will continue to do so if they can get away with it.  At least at the collegiate level, it is good to see the training staffs and team physician staffs "play it by the book".  

BTW, I see you switched your posting "nickname" - but we know we'll still enjoy the same SF's levity and insight!  Take care and again, have a great and SAFE time at the Stagg Bowl.  I'll be watching on TV and perhaps we'll see you on the ESPN cameras!

[formerd3db]

Speaking of hits, did any of you see that hit that the Northwest Missouri State special teams player put on that Grand Valley State player in Saturday's NCAA Div. II title game?  While a legal hit, it was scary and certainly the best hit of the year IMO at any of the collegiate levels I've seen, and quite possibly the best hit I've ever seen.  I still cringe at seeing the reply.  I hope the GVSU player is okay - haven't heard that he isn't, but certainly hope he is fine.

[Raider 68]

Speaking of hits, did any of you see that hit that the Northwest Missouri State special teams player put on that Grand Valley State player in Saturday's NCAA Div. II title game?  While a legal hit, it was scary and certainly the best hit of the year IMO at any of the collegiate levels I've seen, and quite possibly the best hit I've ever seen.  I still cringe at seeing the reply.  I hope the GVSU player is okay - haven't heard that he isn't, but certainly hope he is fine.

Former 3db,

I remember in high school, all you did was run. In college all you did was hit,
but I do not remember the bone crushing hits we are seeing most recently.
It happens now at all levels of college football, not to mention the pros!

I am glad my son was a big soccer player!

[formerd3db]

Speaking of hits, did any of you see that hit that the Northwest Missouri State special teams player put on that Grand Valley State player in Saturday's NCAA Div. II title game?  While a legal hit, it was scary and certainly the best hit of the year IMO at any of the collegiate levels I've seen, and quite possibly the best hit I've ever seen.  I still cringe at seeing the reply.  I hope the GVSU player is okay - haven't heard that he isn't, but certainly hope he is fine.

Former 3db,

I remember in high school, all you did was run. In college all you did was hit,
but I do not remember the bone crushing hits we are seeing most recently.
It happens now at all levels of college football, not to mention the pros!

I am glad my son was a big soccer player!

That hit reminded me of my own similar experiences.  I was involved in one hit like that in high school and one in college (both of which I, thankfully, was the "giver" and not the "receiver"! .  In both of them, however, I did have a minor injury to myself - in the h.s. incident, I bit my own tongue and slightly sprained my ankle (the guy I hit was "knocked out" for a few seconds, but was okay eventually) and the one in college, while the QB I hit was sacked for a 5 yard loss and stunned, so was I as I saw a few "stars" and was headed toward the oppoenents sideline when one of my fellow DB teammates, grabbed me and said, "come on, our sideline is this way" and proceeded to escort me there!

Anyway, I know what you mean - in that regard, I guess it is good your son was a soccer player (although as you know that stuff can happen there also), but even better - my wife and I had two daughters so such collisions were avoided.  Yet we had "collisions" of other sorts at times!!!

Hope you have a great time at the Stagg Bowl.  You should hook up (or at least meet) Andy (former SaintsFAN) there if you get the chance.

[rome]

Look for something to happen this weekend--would not be suprised if the name is released by Monday.

[formerd3db]

Look for something to happen this weekend--would not be suprised if the name is released by Monday.

rome:

It's about time you chimed in here!   You've been away from the board for too long - we missed you this season.  Anyway, while Olivet has kept quiet about info concerning the football coaching search (which is understandable), what is your opinion as to who you think might be the leading candidate?  I realize this is pure speculation, however, was just curious as to your own personal opinion? (assuming you have heard of some of the potential candidates that may have applied). 

[Raider 68]

Look for something to happen this weekend--would not be suprised if the name is released by Monday.

rome:

It's about time you chimed in here!   You've been away from the board for too long - we missed you this season.  Anyway, while Olivet has kept quiet about info concerning the football coaching search (which is understandable), what is your opinion as to who you think might be the leading candidate?  I realize this is pure speculation, however, was just curious as to your own personal opinion? (assuming you have heard of some of the potential candidates that may have applied). 

Former 3db,

Any chance of interest in any former Raider guys for the HC? Would program attract any top talent out there?

[formerd3db]

Look for something to happen this weekend--would not be suprised if the name is released by Monday.

rome:

It's about time you chimed in here!   You've been away from the board for too long - we missed you this season.  Anyway, while Olivet has kept quiet about info concerning the football coaching search (which is understandable), what is your opinion as to who you think might be the leading candidate?  I realize this is pure speculation, however, was just curious as to your own personal opinion? (assuming you have heard of some of the potential candidates that may have applied). 

Former 3db,

Any chance of interest in any former Raider guys for the HC? Would program attract any top talent out there?

Raider68:
I sent you a personal message in reply to this as I was on that forum at that time.   Anyway, from what we've heard via the "rumor mill" Olivet should be making an announcement soon - I assume before Christmas if they get done with the interviewing whatever candidates they've invited for such.  On another topic, if you made it down to Roanoke/Salem for the Stagg Bowl, what are you doing to pass the time this afternoon with the game delay until it (hopefully) starts about 4 PM?   

[formerd3db]

Apparently no word yet from Olivet.

[rome]

My source tells me their candidate asked for more time (no hurry with students off-campus and no recruiting till after the new year)...but I could not get a name....IMOP  OC should bring back Irv and get this rolling again...

[Raider 68]

Apparently no word yet from Olivet.

former3db,

Who are the lead candidates for Olivet? I would think filling the HC position as soon as possible is critical for recruiting. Any progress now is key down the road.