FB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[sac]

sac:

Agree with almost all of your points re: Michigan.  Unfortunately, their secondary is worse this year than it has ever been (and in recent years, it hasn't been very good).  The only aspect I would disagree slightly with you is regarding the "size" of some of the defensive backs.  They are not really undersized to play in the Big Ten - recall that a couple of years ago, Wisconsin had that former walk-on db who was small, yet was one of the leading db's his last 2-3 years.  The difference is that these Michigan guys just aren't as good as he was.  While size usually is a big determinator in the Big Ten, it isn't always IMO - it just depends on the particular player's talents and there have been many examples regarding that over the years (I won't bore you or others with some of those).

Hope's starting FS is 6-2, 195.  Ray Vinopal is listed at 5-11, 180 and those are both lies.


Also, where the heck are Hope's Seniors?  I (very quickly) counted only 10, that has to be the smallest Sr class I've ever seen for Hope..

[sflzman]

sflzman:
Well, you are right about the "A" being currently worn on the right side of the helmet in recent years.  However, there were several years where it was worn on both sides of the helmet.  Anyway, looks good.  Also, if Alma wins this weekend, you'll have to change your quote underneath the helmet!

Technically, win or lose, I'm gonna have to change it 

[formerd3db]

sac:

There are actually 18 seniors on this year's Hope team - as listed on the official roster in the recent Homecoming football program against Trine.  Actually, in 1977 there were 14 seniors on the team; those being the players who lasted all 4 years from an original recruiting class of 40.  Without going back through past year's programs at the moment, I don't know the # of seniors in other years, although I think they were similar to this year.

There has been a good discussion on this topic on one of the other boards the other week.  The attrition is pretty much in the same range for most DIII schools over a 4 year period as to how many seniors remain all four years from an original recruting class.  As a general example, if 50 freshman come in, many had senior classes of anywher from 11 to 18-20.  I remember one year at Alma in the late '90's, they had 28 seniors, which was a larger class considering the usual total roster there was like 66 (although they had upwards of 80-90 players for a stretch of a few years, which is pretty much the norm at Alma now). 

[sflzman]

sflzman:
Well, you are right about the "A" being currently worn on the right side of the helmet in recent years.  However, there were several years where it was worn on both sides of the helmet.  Anyway, looks good.  Also, if Alma wins this weekend, you'll have to change your quote underneath the helmet!

Also, the new renovated downstairs of the Alma Athletics building has football stuff dating all the way back to the very first "modernish" helmets....white with a solid - more red - maroon A.

[formerd3db]

sflzman:
Well, you are right about the "A" being currently worn on the right side of the helmet in recent years.  However, there were several years where it was worn on both sides of the helmet.  Anyway, looks good.  Also, if Alma wins this weekend, you'll have to change your quote underneath the helmet!

Also, the new renovated downstairs of the Alma Athletics building has football stuff dating all the way back to the very first "modernish" helmets....white with a solid - more red - maroon A.

Sounds great.  I remember the football artifacts they had in the previous athletic concove, so I'll look forward to the new area in the new arena.  I assume they moved all the Hall of Fame and other photos, awards, memorials of all the sports there also.

[Raider 68]

sflzman:
Well, you are right about the "A" being currently worn on the right side of the helmet in recent years.  However, there were several years where it was worn on both sides of the helmet.  Anyway, looks good.  Also, if Alma wins this weekend, you'll have to change your quote underneath the helmet!

Also, the new renovated downstairs of the Alma Athletics building has football stuff dating all the way back to the very first "modernish" helmets....white with a solid - more red - maroon A.

Where is the helmet? Is it coming back?

[sflzman]

sflzman:
Well, you are right about the "A" being currently worn on the right side of the helmet in recent years.  However, there were several years where it was worn on both sides of the helmet.  Anyway, looks good.  Also, if Alma wins this weekend, you'll have to change your quote underneath the helmet!

Also, the new renovated downstairs of the Alma Athletics building has football stuff dating all the way back to the very first "modernish" helmets....white with a solid - more red - maroon A.

Where is the helmet? Is it coming back?

I may have to put it on the shelf until this Soccer run is over....but don't worry, it'll be back!

[formerd3db]

Uncle Rico and all other colleagues on here:

There is a good discussion going on right now over on the OAC board about the recruiting and DII issue affecting DIII schools.  As we touched again on that topic last week, you might find those postings over on the OAC board very interesting.  Some very good points made.  Just an FYI.

P.S. sflzman:
I agree with Raider68 - bring back the helmet!

[sflzman]

There we go, now I can support both!

[Raider 68]

There we go, now I can support both!

The "Big" helmut is too big and draws away from the the quality of your posts, IMHO

[sflzman]

It's alright, no-one wants to read the crap I post anyways! 

[formerd3db]

sflzman:

No, no, sflzman, don't say that.  Your posts contributions on here are valued and appreciated - seriously.

[sflzman]

I'm sure everyone's posts are appreciated, because all men are created equal. Thereforet their posts shall be too.

[Raider 68]

The season is not over yet, so why is this board so quiet? The MIAA has an undefeated team and a playoff bound team in Trine. Other than discussing sflzman's new helmet, there has been no conversation!

1. Will Trine win the MIAA, Yes ?

2. Can Hope win away at Adrian?

3. Does Olivet win a MIAA game?

[BoredatWork56]

The season is not over yet, so why is this board so quiet? The MIAA has an undefeated team and a playoff bound team in Trine. Other than discussing sflzman's new helmet, there has been no conversation!

1. Will Trine win the MIAA, Yes ?

2. Can Hope win away at Adrian?

3. Does Olivet win a MIAA game?

Glad you brought that up Raider, as I had the thoughts about the lack of conversation this morning.

To make long answers short...

1. Yes, they win against Kzoo and lock up a share of the MIAA and a playoff birth

2. They can, but they won't

3. I will give Olivet as much chance to win one of their last 2 as I do Trine losing one of their last 2