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[BoredatWork56]

Regarding the Trine scheduling, I dont think scheduling tougher teams will have the most impact on their rankings/seedings/national respct, etc. beause it will be another 3-4 years before the tougher schedule comes into play.  Who knows if they will be a dominant team by then. We all know how cyclical these things can be.

The best way to get where they want to be is to make a run in the playoffs.  If they are one of the last 8 teams left in the playoffs, that might vault them into a top 10 ranking next season.  And a top 10 team will stay there as long as  they win, regardless of who they play.  The best way to play good teams and prove that you can play with the big boys, is to do it when it matters.

[adidas28]

Well said Diezel. I believe that Trine is becoming the Boise State of D3 football. The ceiling placed on their national ranking is a direct result of the respect given to the conference they play in. Beefing up the non-conference schedule is the only way they will be able to crack the top 10 pre-season polls. That being said I would not schedule non-conference games like Hope and Olivet have.  Why go through a gauntlet like Hope did? it has to wreck them physically and mentally before the start of the conference games. I think if your going to play four non-conference games you should try and schedule two teams you can be successful against, a team that will push you, and a team that would be considered an upset if you win.  Just my opinion.

I also wonder what happened to the Defiance and Franklin games, did they drop Trine or wasit the other way around?

Go thunder! 

I don't know how yo can say that. Boise not only plays a solid non-con schedule - unlike Trine - they run the table in a weak conference - which Trine does - but they have not lost in the post-season, whereas Trine has only won one post-season game...

I never said they were there yet. I said becoming  the Boise State, not  just like Boise. My point is the strength of the conference is hurting them in the rankings and their recent success is hurting them in regard to scheduling. They definitely need that deep run in the playoffs to earn any direct comparisons to Boise. I'm hoping this is the year.

[adidas28]

Regarding the Trine scheduling, I dont think scheduling tougher teams will have the most impact on their rankings/seedings/national respct, etc. beause it will be another 3-4 years before the tougher schedule comes into play.  Who knows if they wil be a dominant team by then. We all know how cyclical these things can be.

The best way to get where they want to be is to make a run in the playoffs.  If they are one of the last 8 teams leaf in the playoffs, that might vault them into a top 10 ranking next season.  And a top 10 team will stay there as long as  they win, regardless of who they play.  The best way to play good teams and prove that you can play with the big boys, is to do it when it matters.

Great points, can't say I disagree with any of them. Definitely looking forward to that long playoff run!

Go Thunder!

[sflzman]

Well said Diezel. I believe that Trine is becoming the Boise State of D3 football. The ceiling placed on their national ranking is a direct result of the respect given to the conference they play in. Beefing up the non-conference schedule is the only way they will be able to crack the top 10 pre-season polls. That being said I would not schedule non-conference games like Hope and Olivet have.  Why go through a gauntlet like Hope did? it has to wreck them physically and mentally before the start of the conference games. I think if your going to play four non-conference games you should try and schedule two teams you can be successful against, a team that will push you, and a team that would be considered an upset if you win.  Just my opinion.

I also wonder what happened to the Defiance and Franklin games, did they drop Trine or wasit the other way around?

Go thunder! 

I don't know how yo can say that. Boise not only plays a solid non-con schedule - unlike Trine - they run the table in a weak conference - which Trine does - but they have not lost in the post-season, whereas Trine has only won one post-season game...

I never said they were there yet. I said becoming  the Boise State, not  just like Boise. My point is the strength of the conference is hurting them in the rankings and their recent success is hurting them in regard to scheduling. They definitely need that deep run in the playoffs to earn any direct comparisons to Boise. I'm hoping this is the year.

How bout a schedule worth saying you play NCAA Football?

[adidas28]

Well said Diezel. I believe that Trine is becoming the Boise State of D3 football. The ceiling placed on their national ranking is a direct result of the respect given to the conference they play in. Beefing up the non-conference schedule is the only way they will be able to crack the top 10 pre-season polls. That being said I would not schedule non-conference games like Hope and Olivet have.  Why go through a gauntlet like Hope did? it has to wreck them physically and mentally before the start of the conference games. I think if your going to play four non-conference games you should try and schedule two teams you can be successful against, a team that will push you, and a team that would be considered an upset if you win.  Just my opinion.

I also wonder what happened to the Defiance and Franklin games, did they drop Trine or wasit the other way around?

Go thunder! 

I don't know how yo can say that. Boise not only plays a solid non-con schedule - unlike Trine - they run the table in a weak conference - which Trine does - but they have not lost in the post-season, whereas Trine has only won one post-season game...

I never said they were there yet. I said becoming  the Boise State, not  just like Boise. My point is the strength of the conference is hurting them in the rankings and their recent success is hurting them in regard to scheduling. They definitely need that deep run in the playoffs to earn any direct comparisons to Boise. I'm hoping this is the year.

How bout a schedule worth saying you play NCAA Football?

Who would you suggest they schedule instead of Alma?

[Raider 68]

While the Raiders only have one open non-conference game, maybe Trine should give Mount a call or maybe they have already. Not a long drive from Angola to Alliance!

[Mr. Ypsi]

While the Raiders only have one open non-conference game, maybe Trine should give Mount a call or maybe they have already. Not a long drive from Angola to Alliance!

Hmmm ... replace Bluffton with Mt. Union?!

Not sure they wanted to upgrade quite that far!

[sac]

Well said Diezel. I believe that Trine is becoming the Boise State of D3 football. The ceiling placed on their national ranking is a direct result of the respect given to the conference they play in. Beefing up the non-conference schedule is the only way they will be able to crack the top 10 pre-season polls. That being said I would not schedule non-conference games like Hope and Olivet have.  Why go through a gauntlet like Hope did? it has to wreck them physically and mentally before the start of the conference games. I think if your going to play four non-conference games you should try and schedule two teams you can be successful against, a team that will push you, and a team that would be considered an upset if you win.  Just my opinion.

I also wonder what happened to the Defiance and Franklin games, did they drop Trine or wasit the other way around?

Go thunder! 

I don't know how yo can say that. Boise not only plays a solid non-con schedule - unlike Trine - they run the table in a weak conference - which Trine does - but they have not lost in the post-season, whereas Trine has only won one post-season game...

I never said they were there yet. I said becoming  the Boise State, not  just like Boise. My point is the strength of the conference is hurting them in the rankings and their recent success is hurting them in regard to scheduling. They definitely need that deep run in the playoffs to earn any direct comparisons to Boise. I'm hoping this is the year.

How bout a schedule worth saying you play NCAA Football?

The interesting thing is, right now masseyratings.com has Boise State at #49 in schedule played, Ohio State #56.......and their full schedule still ranks higher than Wisconsin and MSU's.

Massey does not like the Big 10.

[sflzman]

While the Raiders only have one open non-conference game, maybe Trine should give Mount a call or maybe they have already. Not a long drive from Angola to Alliance!

Hmmm ... replace Bluffton with Mt. Union?!

Not sure they wanted to upgrade quite that far!

I'd doubt it 

[Uncle Rico]

I don't think the schedulers for Trine could have anticipated how the non conference opponents would fair this year, based on last years performance.  Bluffton did not have a good track record, but Lagrange was 9-2 last year.  Manchester had played .500 ball last year, so they weren't necessarily a cellar dweller. 

River Falls only had a 3-7 record last year, but played in a very strong conference and may have faired better with an MIAA schedule.   The benefit of playing them is the experience of playing a long distance road game (likely in a playoff situation) against a team in a tough conference who would not have any respect for Trine, based on the caliber of the other teams River Falls played. 

I think the Trine coaches might have anticipated a tougher non conference schedule this year than how it worked out.

HUGE game against Albion, who played some very good teams tight.  I think Albion is a bit under-rated and I expect this to be a close one.

[formerd3db]

Great round of discussion all of you.  This has been some of the most numerous segments we've had on this board for quite a long time (as evidenced by the number of pages we've progressed in just these last few days).  So keep it up!

As far as tomorrow's games, I am kind of "bummed" that the weather report is now being predicted as being colder, cloudier and possibly rain.  After having such beautiful weather here in Michigan the last few days and particularly today, why can't we just have that for one more day on Saturday tomorrow?  Yet, I guess this just has to follow "tradition" as, usually, the last game of the season is a cold, cloudy, rainy (or snowy) "typical" November day!

Anyway, I join you others in wishing all the seniors on our MIAA teams (and their parents and families) who will be playing the last game of their careers tomorrow (and for that matter the other DIII teams across the nation) a most enjoyable conclusion.  It has been a great "ride" and hope you cherish the good memories.  Drive safe everyone and God Bless.

formerd3db

[Raider 68]

Great round of discussion all of you.  This has been some of the most numerous segments we've had on this board for quite a long time (as evidenced by the number of pages we've progressed in just these last few days).  So keep it up!

As far as tomorrow's games, I am kind of "bummed" that the weather report is now being predicted as being colder, cloudier and possibly rain.  After having such beautiful weather here in Michigan the last few days and particularly today, why can't we just have that for one more day on Saturday tomorrow?   Yet, I guess this just has to follow "tradition" as, usually, the last game of the season is a cold, cloudy, rainy (or snowy) "typical" November day!

Anyway, I join you others in wishing all the seniors on our MIAA teams (and their parents and families) who will be playing the last game of their careers tomorrow (and for that matter the other DIII teams across the nation) a most enjoyable conclusion.  It has been a great "ride" and hope you cherish the good memories.  Drive safe everyone and God Bless.

formerd3db

Formerd3db,

Well said, those memories grow more important as we each grow older! I  would not trade for anything! +k

Hope the weatherman helps out on Saturday. In Ohio we are still looking at a dry fall day!

[formerd3db]

Great round of discussion all of you.  This has been some of the most numerous segments we've had on this board for quite a long time (as evidenced by the number of pages we've progressed in just these last few days).  So keep it up!

As far as tomorrow's games, I am kind of "bummed" that the weather report is now being predicted as being colder, cloudier and possibly rain.  After having such beautiful weather here in Michigan the last few days and particularly today, why can't we just have that for one more day on Saturday tomorrow?   Yet, I guess this just has to follow "tradition" as, usually, the last game of the season is a cold, cloudy, rainy (or snowy) "typical" November day!

Anyway, I join you others in wishing all the seniors on our MIAA teams (and their parents and families) who will be playing the last game of their careers tomorrow (and for that matter the other DIII teams across the nation) a most enjoyable conclusion.  It has been a great "ride" and hope you cherish the good memories.  Drive safe everyone and God Bless.

formerd3db

Formerd3db,

Well said, those memories grow more important as we each grow older! I  would not trade for anything! +k

Hope the weatherman helps out on Saturday. In Ohio we are still looking at a dry fall day!

Thanks Raider68.  Indeed, if you end up having that kind of weather it will be a fantastic day for football down your way.  Probably one of the last good weather days for the rest of the season for the Ohio State/Michigan game and Mount Union playoff games.

[sac]

Weird forecasts...

Holland
Saturday: A 40 percent chance of showers. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 59. Breezy, with a east southeast wind between 16 and 20 mph, with gusts as high as 29 mph.

This is Lansing

Saturday: Partly sunny, with a high near 59. East wind between 9 and 14 mph, with gusts as high as 22 mph.


at Alma

Saturday: Partly sunny, with a high near 56. East wind between 9 and 16 mph.

at Angola

Saturday: A 30 percent chance of showers after 4pm. Partly sunny, with a high near 64. Southeast wind between 5 and 10 mph.


Alma, Lansing and Angola are pretty much aligned North to South

[sflzman]

Weird forecasts...

Holland
Saturday: A 40 percent chance of showers. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 59. Breezy, with a east southeast wind between 16 and 20 mph, with gusts as high as 29 mph.

This is Lansing

Saturday: Partly sunny, with a high near 59. East wind between 9 and 14 mph, with gusts as high as 22 mph.


at Alma

Saturday: Partly sunny, with a high near 56. East wind between 9 and 16 mph.

at Angola

Saturday: A 30 percent chance of showers after 4pm. Partly sunny, with a high near 64. Southeast wind between 5 and 10 mph.


Alma, Lansing and Angola are pretty much aligned North to South

I think the weather will be great in Alma tomorrow considering what it has been in the past....