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formerd3db

Raider68:

That would certainly be a great situation.  However, right now, I can't think of anyone who is like "a Tressell" was at the time he was available from Youngstown State, to use that example, although, I'm sure I must be overlooking someone.  Or more likely it is because my either a) perhaps my head is still foggy from the recent holidays or b) it's just that aging process of brain cells/memory loss, or c) a combination of both "a" and "b" ;D ::)
"When the Great Scorer comes To mark against your name, He'll write not 'won' or 'lost', But how you played the game." - Grantland Rice

sac

Brady Hoke has a "Michigan buyout" in his SDSU contract, they knew full well when they hired him Michigan was his dream job.


Tate Forcier needs to worry about academics otherwise the choice to stay or leave Michigan might not be his own.

Raider 68

Quote from: formerd3db on January 07, 2011, 11:40:11 AM
Raider68:

That would certainly be a great situation.  However, right now, I can't think of anyone who is like "a Tressell" was at the time he was available from Youngstown State, to use that example, although, I'm sure I must be overlooking someone.  Or more likely it is because my either a) perhaps my head is still foggy from the recent holidays or b) it's just that aging process of brain cells/memory loss, or c) a combination of both "a" and "b" ;D ::)

I have lost track of the coaches at a Grand Valley State and some DII schools, but there has to be another "Sweater Vest type" out there!

Oops, I forgot about the many Michigan fans who do not like him (his record against U of M). I do know of a "Top 300 wins coach" with an unbelievable
history! ;D
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sac

Quote from: Raider 68 on January 07, 2011, 12:08:43 PM
Quote from: formerd3db on January 07, 2011, 11:40:11 AM
Raider68:

That would certainly be a great situation.  However, right now, I can't think of anyone who is like "a Tressell" was at the time he was available from Youngstown State, to use that example, although, I'm sure I must be overlooking someone.  Or more likely it is because my either a) perhaps my head is still foggy from the recent holidays or b) it's just that aging process of brain cells/memory loss, or c) a combination of both "a" and "b" ;D ::)

I have lost track of the coaches at a Grand Valley State and some DII schools, but there has to be another "Sweater Vest type" out there!

Oops, I forgot about the many Michigan fans who do not like him (his record against U of M). I do know of a "Top 300 wins coach" with an unbelievable
history! ;D

Brian Kelly is at ND, and when he was hired he took his GVSU successor Chuck Martin to ND with him.  (low and behold, ND's D started rocking later in the season)

Martin would be one of the few "unknowns" I would embrace with open arms, but the likleyhood of that happening are near or below 0%.

formerd3db

sac:

I would agree.  Martin is a good coach, however, I personally think that Michigan is going to go for a "name coach" from the ranks.  Again, from what Brandon said, he essentially said he wants someone with head coaching experience from the larger programs.  Martin's head coaching experience is at DII and only this season at ND in DI.

Also, I had forgotten that Hoke had the "Michigan buyout" clause in his SDSU contract.  Kind of like Miles' previous buyout clause in his LSU contract, except that Miles "blew his chance big time" for several different reasons.

Raider68:

There probably will be eventually.  Look at the coaches that Tiffin and Findlay just hired.  Some of these guys "pay their dues" in various ways with experiences at all three levels before they end up landing a DI job - if that is what they want to do for their careers i.e. the "stepping stone" pathway.  Yet, I am still glad that there are some coaches (and we could all name plenty at the DIII level) who are content in staying where they are for their careers.  There is something to be said about that; unfortunately, it is less common today.  However, everyone has to make their own choice and that is fine.
"When the Great Scorer comes To mark against your name, He'll write not 'won' or 'lost', But how you played the game." - Grantland Rice

formerd3db

#4910
Well, there you have it.  Just reported that Jim Harbaugh has agreed to a 25 million dollar 5-year contract to be the Head Coach of the 49'ers of the NFL.  While most of us knew he wouldn't come back to Michigan, still I'm slightly disappointed he didn't stay then at Stanford as I think he had a chance at potentially becoming one of the great college coaches in this era if he had stayed at the collegiate level and really get Stanford to being even better than they are now.  However, I certainly understand the $ (although he really doesn't need it and Stanford had offered a VERY good $ deal without question), the chance to be a head NFL coach like his brother and the challenge of trying to bring back SF to prominence.  Yet, SF has not been exactly a hotbed for it's last several head coaches - Murriuci, Erickson, Nolan, Singletary couldn't turn them around and got fired; and the way the NFL is, that will probably happen to Harbaugh.  But...he has played in the NFL and thus, knows the mentality of those type of players.  The trick will be to see if he can get them to follow him.  Much, much different than working with college age players.  Nonetheless, I wish him the best.  Won't it be neat to see the Baltimore/SF games?  A great but rare experience for them and the fans.
"When the Great Scorer comes To mark against your name, He'll write not 'won' or 'lost', But how you played the game." - Grantland Rice

Raider 68

Quote from: formerd3db on January 07, 2011, 05:25:18 PM
Well, there you have it.  Just reported that Jim Harbaugh has agreed to a 25 million dollar 5-year contract to be the Head Coach of the 49'ers of the NFL.  While most of us knew he wouldn't come back to Michigan, still I'm slightly disappointed he didn't stay then at Stanford as I think he had a chance at potentially becoming one of the great college coaches in this era if he had stayed at the collegiate level and really get Stanford to being even better than they are now.  However, I certainly understand the $ (although he really doesn't need it and Stanford had offered a VERY good $ deal without question), the chance to be a head NFL coach like his brother and the challenge of trying to bring back SF to prominence.  Yet, SF has not been exactly a hotbed for it's last several head coaches - Murriuci, Erickson, Nolan, Singletary couldn't turn them around and got fired; and the way the NFL is, that will probably happen to Harbaugh.  But...he has played in the NFL and thus, knows the mentality of those type of players.  The trick will be to see if he can get them to follow him.  Much, much different than working with college age players.  Nonetheless, I wish him the best.  Won't it be neat to see the Baltimore/SF games?  A great but rare experience for them and the fans.

IMHO, Michigan should make a push to not only talk to Les Miles but to seriously recruit him. I do not think Miles's opening has passed, since the HC positon there offers more of a challenge than 3 years ago! :) Michigan can ill afford to experiment again! ::)
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sac

Reports today claim Michigan will interview Miles tomorrow.  I'm still surprised but that is a different story.  Miles claims they will "talk" but he doesn't know what the meeting is about.  (he's one loopy dude).


The cyberstalking that takes place when things like this happen is amazing.  I'm a fan of Flightaware.com (because I live within earshot of several flights out of Lansing everyday and I got curious one day, and have stuck with it).   Several people have been following the Dominos Pizza plane since last week, including me.  :P   

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N220DF

I think that pretty much confirms Dave Brandon is going to talk with Miles.  Either that or he just wanted some Cajun food. :)



In case you are wondering about the suspected flight locations and their relevence.


Jacksonville---around the bowl game, obvious
Charlotte, NC---Mike Trgovac, Carolina Panthers DC and Michigan grad
Willow Run---Homebase, and frequently used by UM and Opponents
Latrobe, Pa---day of RR's firing, its been rumored UM interview Penn State's Tom Bradley
Chicago--the day after this plane left it was reported Fitzgerald was staying at NU
Scottsdale--probably where the John Gruden interview rumors surfaced, Gruden has been in Arz preparing for his radio call of tonights game
Las Vegas-- no idea
Dallas--Gary Patterson at TCU was probably talked to, but its also been mentioned that Les Miles' agent works out of Dallas.  Perhaps some behind the scenes stuff.
Baton Rouge---plane is heading there today.

I think this covers the internet rumors on this plane.


DBQ1965

Quote from: formerd3db on January 07, 2011, 02:53:58 PM

Also, I had forgotten that Hoke had the "Michigan buyout" clause in his SDSU contract.  Kind of like Miles' previous buyout clause in his LSU contract, except that Miles "blew his chance big time" for several different reasons.


Did Miles really blow it then ... or did UofM ... acting like they had never been in the search for a head coach before?  That seemed to be a screw-up from Day 1!  Hopefully, someone has learned something.
Reality is for those who lack imagination 😀

sflzman

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sac

#4915
Quote from: DBQ1965 on January 10, 2011, 06:48:54 PM
Quote from: formerd3db on January 07, 2011, 02:53:58 PM

Also, I had forgotten that Hoke had the "Michigan buyout" clause in his SDSU contract.  Kind of like Miles' previous buyout clause in his LSU contract, except that Miles "blew his chance big time" for several different reasons.


Did Miles really blow it then ... or did UofM ... acting like they had never been in the search for a head coach before?  That seemed to be a screw-up from Day 1!  Hopefully, someone has learned something.

Michigan never interviewed Miles in 2008, and never wanted to.  All the Miles to Michigan junk in 08 was media created.  Miles expressed interest but UM didn't answer his calls......he has some UM baggage that isn't necessarily wanted in AA, the "Miles blew it bigtime" by formerd3db is referring to that and it comes from many years ago.

sac

Quote from: sac on January 10, 2011, 03:26:37 PM
Reports today claim Michigan will interview Miles tomorrow.  I'm still surprised but that is a different story.  Miles claims they will "talk" but he doesn't know what the meeting is about.  (he's one loopy dude).


The cyberstalking that takes place when things like this happen is amazing.  I'm a fan of Flightaware.com (because I live within earshot of several flights out of Lansing everyday and I got curious one day, and have stuck with it).   Several people have been following the Dominos Pizza plane since last week, including me.  :P   

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N220DF

I think that pretty much confirms Dave Brandon is going to talk with Miles.  Either that or he just wanted some Cajun food. :)



In case you are wondering about the suspected flight locations and their relevence.


Jacksonville---around the bowl game, obvious
Charlotte, NC---Mike Trgovac, Carolina Panthers DC and Michigan grad
Willow Run---Homebase, and frequently used by UM and Opponents
Latrobe, Pa---day of RR's firing, its been rumored UM interview Penn State's Tom Bradley
Chicago--the day after this plane left it was reported Fitzgerald was staying at NU
Scottsdale--probably where the John Gruden interview rumors surfaced, Gruden has been in Arz preparing for his radio call of tonights game
Las Vegas-- no idea
Dallas--Gary Patterson at TCU was probably talked to, but its also been mentioned that Les Miles' agent works out of Dallas.  Perhaps some behind the scenes stuff.
Baton Rouge---plane is heading there today.

I think this covers the internet rumors on this plane.



That jet is heading back to Ann Arbor tonight.  Reports out of Baton Rouge are that Miles is not on the plane.  Les is speaking at a coaches convention in Dallas on Tuesday.   It could mean a lot of things.......from Dave Brandon has his man and is heading home, all the way down to Domino's just wants their plane back.

There is a UM Football team meeting tomorrow afternoon that was not previously scheduled.

I still stick by my thoughts that no announcement can come until Wednesday at the earliest.

My guess is most of this week Dave Brandon has been spending gauging interest from coaches and will return home to set up formal interviews with other University staff members, including the President, Mary Sue Coleman who was apparently not on this trip.

formerd3db

sac:

Thanks for your updates; I agree with you as well.  BTW, it was reported by some sources today, including Huge on "The Huge Show" in Grand Rapids (which they talked about the Michigan situation the entire show) that U of Mich President Mary Sue Coleman was indeed in Dallas with Brandon.  Usual media rumors! ;D
"When the Great Scorer comes To mark against your name, He'll write not 'won' or 'lost', But how you played the game." - Grantland Rice

sac

#4918
Quote from: formerd3db on January 10, 2011, 11:05:29 PM
sac:

Thanks for your updates; I agree with you as well.  BTW, it was reported by some sources today, including Huge on "The Huge Show" in Grand Rapids (which they talked about the Michigan situation the entire show) that U of Mich President Mary Sue Coleman was indeed in Dallas with Brandon.  Usual media rumors! ;D

Thanks about Coleman, I had heard differently, though vague stuff.



Fox 2 Detroit ~ the outfit that reported RR was fired the day before he was fired, and before Brandon had even finished his meeting with the guy ~ had someone out at Willow Run Airport.


Dave Brandon upon arrival at Willow Run: "Yeah, Hawaii was great" -- per our reporter, Dave Goricki



.....and, wow, how about this enthralling piece from a Baton Rouge TV station. ::)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cawTufb2MvY&feature=player_embedded#!

Raider 68

If Michigan offers the HC position to Les Miles, he will come back to his alma mater. This would be great for U of M and the Big Ten, IMHO! :)
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