FB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[Uncle Rico]

Great Presser at UofM
Though I am not unbiased  

Like the attitude and Old School all about the Team approach, get back to what made UofM great.
Enjoyed the "inside" comments about the numerous "leaks" the "experts" had on who was on list and contacted.

Hoke is a good football coach, not big name just a straight forward coach.
Players will Love him, team will be physical and "show up" every game.
Hopefully he can get recruits, have to get back to being physical. Lineman are the key, all kinds of speed on team, need a few guys with a "bad attitude" on defense.

The "cradle of coachs"  (Ohio/PA) continues to be strong in College football staffs.

"That school down South" looked good at UofM congrats on move to #1 in BB.
Looking for the Big Ten to have a big impact on the NCAA Tourney

The D3 players had a nice showing in the NFL playoffs.
Hope to see a few get a chance this year in the draft or mini camps.

Hearing all the comments from so many former U of M players was pretty cool and got me a little fired up.  I wonder if they can contact recruits on behalf of the university or if there are rules against that.  I wonder how much the recuiting class will suffer this year.

[sac]

Michigan was going to have a smaller than average recruiting class anyway, around 19 scholarships available.  So the possibility of them being rated high by someone like rivals.com was pretty low anyway.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/commitments/2011/michigan-29;_ylt=AibBKYRR58uLZDNf6x0qbF9JPZB4

They have 12 commitments, and of those only the Kicker seems to be wavering.  They did lose a couple that would have only come to Michigan if Rodriguez were the coach, but otherwise everyone seems to be staying committed to Michigan so far.

Contrary to the Detroit Free Press's insistence that MSU owns the state in football recruiting, Michigan will end up with 3 of the top 7 to MSU's 1 with the possibility that #6 and #3 change their commit to Michigan which would give them 5.   UM will probably have more in-state recruits than MSU when its all finished.

[D306]

"Hearing all the comments from so many former U of M players was pretty cool and got me a little fired up.  I wonder if they can contact recruits on behalf of the university or if there are rules against that.  I wonder how much the recuiting class will suffer this year"

Uncle Rico

Former Players can not "recruit" athletes in an official fashion.
Contact is limited to "reason / relationship" to be at a specific school or event, prior association with event or school, At that point UofM can not sanction your meeting but if you meet that is OK.
Think of Izzo getting suspended because a "coach" at one of his many mini camps. Non staff member coach spoke to a kid whom was being recruited by MSU after camp session.

NCAA rules are hard to comprehend, then you look at the joke of a way the Auburn and OSU violations were treated. Lets you know they are all about money. Kill ya after Bowl Season.  Nice how Cam Newton is kicked out of FLA. goes to JUCO for a year, comes to Auburn ( of course no cash involved at Auburn but dad was negociating money with other SEC schools  ) then completes 1 semester and leaves for the Pro's. Talk about a hired gun. Love to see his class schedule and GPA, attendance etc... Great Education, work the system, must have learned from dad the "Minister" always a nice tax dodge.

WTKA Ann Arbor had great segment on this subject this morning Sam's recruit round-up segment.
Good trip back to Michigan I will hopefully stay on site more often.

[Uncle Rico]

Thank you for the explanation, D306.  If ex players could make their case for a university, I would think the whole body of former Michigan players would make a strong case for coming to Ann Arbor.  They really lined up for Hoke, which is something Rich Rod did not have, not being from Michigan.  Time will tell if Hoke was a good move, but I like it so far.

[Raider 68]

In 2011 Michigan will have another potential rival in Nebraska!

[sac]

In 2011 Michigan will have another potential rival in Nebraska!

Honestly, just the distance between the two schools is going to make it tough to have any sort of rivalry.  It may become one based on success if the two schools keep trading Division titles, but since that seems like years away from Michigan I can't see it.  At Michigan it will always be Ohio State, Michigan State, Notre Dame.......Nebraska has to get in line.

I think Nebraska is more likely to develop a rivalry with Iowa.

I do know I'm really looking forward to seeing them play at Michigan for the first time since the mid 60's.  We get the added bonus next year of it being the week before the Ohio State game.  Nebraska and Ohio State at Michigan in November, the only thing better would be if we were better.

[Mr. Ypsi]

In 2011 Michigan will have another potential rival in Nebraska!

Honestly, just the distance between the two schools is going to make it tough to have any sort of rivalry.  It may become one based on success if the two schools keep trading Division titles, but since that seems like years away from Michigan I can't see it.  At Michigan it will always be Ohio State, Michigan State, Notre Dame.......Nebraska has to get in line.

I think Nebraska is more likely to develop a rivalry with Iowa.

I do know I'm really looking forward to seeing them play at Michigan for the first time since the mid 60's.  We get the added bonus next year of it being the week before the Ohio State game.  Nebraska and Ohio State at Michigan in November, the only thing better would be if we were better.

Personally, I have little doubt that they WILL be (though uncertain whether they will be enough better to matter). 

The last time UM faced Nebraska was a bowl game (6-7? years ago), which was the ONLY game I've ever seen where I honestly think the officials were corrupt rather than incompetent.  (My nephews were rooting for Nebraska, yet they agreed with the assessment.)  With honest, competent officiating, a narrow loss would have been a 3 TD win.

[sac]

In 2011 Michigan will have another potential rival in Nebraska!

Honestly, just the distance between the two schools is going to make it tough to have any sort of rivalry.  It may become one based on success if the two schools keep trading Division titles, but since that seems like years away from Michigan I can't see it.  At Michigan it will always be Ohio State, Michigan State, Notre Dame.......Nebraska has to get in line.

I think Nebraska is more likely to develop a rivalry with Iowa.

I do know I'm really looking forward to seeing them play at Michigan for the first time since the mid 60's.  We get the added bonus next year of it being the week before the Ohio State game.  Nebraska and Ohio State at Michigan in November, the only thing better would be if we were better.

Personally, I have little doubt that they WILL be (though uncertain whether they will be enough better to matter). 

The last time UM faced Nebraska was a bowl game (6-7? years ago), which was the ONLY game I've ever seen where I honestly think the officials were corrupt rather than incompetent.  (My nephews were rooting for Nebraska, yet they agreed with the assessment.)  With honest, competent officiating, a narrow loss would have been a 3 TD win.

They're going from a team that could give points up at will, and a top 10 offense that could keep up when not shooting itself in the foot.  To a defense that will probably still give up a lot of points and an offense that probably won't be as good with all new terminology etc.  Denard Robinson is a fun QB, but he can't read a defense worth lick.

[Mr. Ypsi]

In 2011 Michigan will have another potential rival in Nebraska!

Honestly, just the distance between the two schools is going to make it tough to have any sort of rivalry.  It may become one based on success if the two schools keep trading Division titles, but since that seems like years away from Michigan I can't see it.  At Michigan it will always be Ohio State, Michigan State, Notre Dame.......Nebraska has to get in line.

I think Nebraska is more likely to develop a rivalry with Iowa.

I do know I'm really looking forward to seeing them play at Michigan for the first time since the mid 60's.  We get the added bonus next year of it being the week before the Ohio State game.  Nebraska and Ohio State at Michigan in November, the only thing better would be if we were better.

Personally, I have little doubt that they WILL be (though uncertain whether they will be enough better to matter). 

The last time UM faced Nebraska was a bowl game (6-7? years ago), which was the ONLY game I've ever seen where I honestly think the officials were corrupt rather than incompetent.  (My nephews were rooting for Nebraska, yet they agreed with the assessment.)  With honest, competent officiating, a narrow loss would have been a 3 TD win.

They're going from a team that could give points up at will, and a top 10 offense that could keep up when not shooting itself in the foot.  To a defense that will probably still give up a lot of points and an offense that probably won't be as good with all new terminology etc.  Denard Robinson is a fun QB, but he can't read a defense worth lick.

While it is obviously just a wild guess at this point, I think UM will still be a top 20 offense, and jump all the way to a top 40 defense.  We'll see in (quite) a few months.

[formerd3db]

sac and Ypsi:

Sac, I agree with you that Robinson can't read defenses well.  As you know from going to those games yourself, he sure has a knack for throwing INTs in the red zone.  That is something that needs to be corrected this year to improve his own game.  In that same category, I hope that Hoke hires back Scott Lefler, former Michigan quarterbacks coach.  IMO, he was excellent in that position during his tenur at Michigan.  In talking with some of my colleagues here at Michigan State who are associated with that program (and some who have brothers coaching in DI), they mentioned they doubted Lefler would be brought back because Smith was already there.  However, I saw this AM where Smith (and Frey), both recently out of a job at Michigan with the fireing of Rodriguez, were both hired this weekend by Kevin Wilson, Indiana's new coach.  So that leaves an opening at the QB coach spot.  I think Leflur can help Robinson and the now-to-be soph QB Walker who might have a chance at beating out Robinson for the QB spot.  As has been mentioned, I think it would be good to use Robinson in some WR or wingback positions on occasion as well, since I agree that is where is his potential chances will be in the NFL eventually.  He could help out in both those ways at Michigan, kind of like Shorts did at Mount Union this year.

Anyway, I haven't heard any info as to who Hoke is considering, however, I'm sure there will be some announcements this week.  As you can see from the internet and media, many of the coaching staffs at all three NCAA levels are being filled this past week and next.  At the upper levels, they have to, due to the intense recruiting process as well as the signing day two weeks away.   

[sac]

I think UM will still be a top 20 offense, and jump all the way to a top 40 defense.  We'll see in (quite) a few months.

This is wildly wishful thinking.

[Mr. Ypsi]

I think UM will still be a top 20 offense, and jump all the way to a top 40 defense.  We'll see in (quite) a few months.

This is wildly wishful thinking.

Well, as I said, we'll see!  What I AM confident of is that Brady Hoke is not gonna allow a bottom level defense.  I expect the improvement on defense to be dramatic, and occur the very first year (second year at the worst).  I'll also go out on a limb and say the offense (which was NOT very good against the more physical teams) will get even better if he can come up with a way to utilize Denard other than just qb, and get Gardner's better arm on the field more.

(And you thought it was 'wildly wishful thinking' before! )

[D306]

Any good MIAA recruit talk?

I am aware of a couple Michigan based Seniors heading to Trine
Winning and the Campus improvements are building more interest.
I recall just 6-7 years ago, many MI kids would not attend Tri-State.

There is also a MIAA QB transferring out to DII.

The A's and Hope need to cast a wide net, the "blip" in recruits, wins, etc...
Is now a trend.

With the economy stable, I did not say improving in Michigan. I expect that the DIII schools may see a little more interest. People are a little more confident in their jobs, or prospect of future business, or should I say I hope this leads to more Student-Athletes in the MIAA.

[Raider 68]

Any good MIAA recruit talk?

I am aware of a couple Michigan based Seniors heading to Trine
Winning and the Campus improvements are building more interest.
I recall just 6-7 years ago, many MI kids would not attend Tri-State.

There is also a MIAA QB transferring out to DII.

The A's and Hope need to cast a wide net, the "blip" in recruits, wins, etc...
Is now a trend.

With the economy stable, I did not say improving in Michigan. I expect that the DIII schools may see a little more interest. People are a little more confident in their jobs, or prospect of future business, or should I say I hope this leads to more Student-Athletes in the MIAA.

The question is, what MIAA team will provide Trine with some competition this fall? Hopefully they (Trine) will have to earn the top spot with some close games!

[Uncle Rico]

Any good MIAA recruit talk?

I am aware of a couple Michigan based Seniors heading to Trine
Winning and the Campus improvements are building more interest.
I recall just 6-7 years ago, many MI kids would not attend Tri-State.

There is also a MIAA QB transferring out to DII.

The A's and Hope need to cast a wide net, the "blip" in recruits, wins, etc...
Is now a trend.

With the economy stable, I did not say improving in Michigan. I expect that the DIII schools may see a little more interest. People are a little more confident in their jobs, or prospect of future business, or should I say I hope this leads to more Student-Athletes in the MIAA.

The question is, what MIAA team will provide Trine with some competition this fall? Hopefully they (Trine) will have to earn the top spot with some close games!

I am going to be honest here....Hopefully Trine will play many tough opponents in the non-conference and conference schedule, and will CRUSH them all, allowing many players lots of playing time.  Tight, close games are not good for my heart.